what is it that writers do?
$Zero
they take ideas and facts...
and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
...
what is it that writers do?
(first draft).
-$Zero...
things change
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Ultraviolet
> what is it that writers do?
>
> they take ideas and facts...
>
> and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
>
> but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
It's the other way around for fiction writing.
$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> left the cake out in the rain:
>
> > what is it that writers do?
>
> > they take ideas and facts...
>
> > and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
>
> > but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
>
> It's the other way around for fiction writing.
nope.
"ideas" covers fiction.
Ultraviolet
> On Feb 11, 9:29�pm, Ultraviolet <viole...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> left the cake out in the rain:
>>
>> > what is it that writers do?
>>
>> > they take ideas and facts...
>>
>> > and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
>>
>> > but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
>>
>> It's the other way around for fiction writing.
>
> nope.
Yep.
> "ideas" covers fiction.
Most ideas aren't new, so the words are what matter. That's the
"real" quality.
$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> left the cake out in the rain:
>
> > On Feb 11, 9:29�pm, Ultraviolet <viole...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> left the cake out in the rain:
>
> >> > what is it that writers do?
>
> >> > they take ideas and facts...
>
> >> > and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
>
> >> > but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
>
> >> It's the other way around for fiction writing.
>
> > nope.
>
> Yep.
negative.
> > "ideas" covers fiction.
>
> Most ideas aren't new,
name one.
> so the words are what matter.
how do they matter in that specific way?
IOW: give an example.
> That's the "real" quality.
the real qualities are in the ideas themselves.
a writer uses words to express those qualities.
ideas aren't limited to plot summaries.
deflated
a writer writes what others can't.
Sylvia
> "$Zero" left the cake out in the rain:
> > Ultraviolet wrote:
> >> "$Zero" left the cake out in the rain:
.
> >> > what is it that writers do?
> >>
> >> > they take ideas and facts...
> >>
> >> > and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
> >>
> >> > but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
"It's wot you say."
> >> It's the other way around for fiction writing.
.
> > nope.
.
> Yep.
.
> > "ideas" covers fiction.
.
> Most ideas aren't new, so the words are what matter. That's the
> "real" quality.
"It's how ya say it."
Depends on the writer and the type of work, innit. Kinda like HSB
sliders. Lookit that purty color! It's:
Hue: 346º
Saturation: 88%
Brightness: 55%
So, HUE is How Ya Say It, BRIGHTNESS is the ideas/facts, and SATURATION
is... wot? How far reachin' it is?
Or, not.
--
Sylvia
"This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated,
if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it."
-- Eeyore
Bill Penrose
> but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
Not without expression. An idea or a fact has no existence and no
force unless expressed, sometimes in writing.
DB
boots
Thinking it is sufficient expression for a thought.
If you had any you'd realize that. <g>
--
just write it
$Zero
> Miz Ultraviolet wrote:
> > "$Zero" �left the cake out in the rain:
> > > � Ultraviolet �wrote:
> > >> "$Zero" �left the cake out in the rain:
> .
> > >> > what is it that writers do?
>
> > >> > they take ideas and facts...
>
> > >> > and turn them into sentences, paragraphs, and whatnot.
>
> > >> > but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
>
> � � �"It's wot you say."
that's what i say.
> > >> It's the other way around for fiction writing.
> .
> > > nope.
> .
> > Yep.
> .
> > > "ideas" covers fiction.
> .
> > Most ideas aren't new, so the words are what matter. That's the
> > "real" quality.
>
> "It's how ya say it."
how you say it IS what you say.
> Depends on the writer and the type of work, innit.
nope.
> Kinda like HSB sliders. Lookit that purty color! It's:
>
> Hue: �346�
> Saturation: 88%
> Brightness: 55%
>
> So, HUE is How Ya Say It,
partly.
it's also inextricably what you say.
(a gazillion interpretations aside).
> BRIGHTNESS is the ideas/facts,
partly.
but the real quality is in the ideas and facts themselves.
> and SATURATION is... wot? How far reachin' it is?
>
> Or, not.
censorship is a whole 'nother issue innit.
with far reaching consequences.
ba'dum, chsh!
word.
> --
> Sylvia
>
> � � � "This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated,
> � � � � if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it."
>
> � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � -- � Eeyore
-$Zero...
what is it about writing that you love?
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montewelk
meat stinks?
$Zero
> Bill Penrose <penr...@iit.edu> wrote:
> >On Feb 11, 5:46 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> but the real quality exists in the ideas and facts themselves.
>
> >Not without expression. An idea or a fact has no existence and
> >no force unless expressed,
what an absolutely silly idea that is.
> > sometimes in writing.
>
> >DB
>
> Thinking it is sufficient expression for a thought.
one need not even think about gravity for it to be true.
its truth is sufficient.
> If you had any you'd realize that. �<g>
that's quite a weighty insult.
-$Zero...
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Bill Penrose
> what is it that writers do?
Doctors stand around while Nature heals people, or doesn't.
Lawyers make things complicated and charge you to simplify them.
Stock brokers make money whether you gain or lose.
Teachers repeat state-sanctioned information.
Preachers explain why God isn't helping you.
Politicians love you until the votes are counted.
So what's so bad about writers?
DB
$Zero
can't?
nope.
not necessarily.
but a writer often notices what others miss.
-$Zero...
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$Zero
depends on whether they prostitute themselves to all of the above,
etc.
turn on your television and do some channel surfing.
-$Zero...
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montewelk
writers write. idiots doodle. mean people confess.
boots
>one need not even think about gravity for it to be true.
And if your belief that you live at the whim of the world happens to
be incorrect, what then?
--
just write it
boots
What's more annoying than someone who may be telling you the thing
you'd least like to hear but doesn't let you know about it until the
punchline?
--
just write it
$Zero
> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >one need not even think about gravity for it to be true.
>
> And if your belief that you live at the whim of the world happens to
> be incorrect, what then?
party hats!
-$Zero...
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boots
>On Feb 13, 4:28?am, boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >one need not even think about gravity for it to be true.
>>
>> And if your belief that you live at the whim of the world happens to
>> be incorrect, what then?
>
>party hats!
Then break out the kazoos and bring lots of booze. <g>
--
just write it