Proof that all the Apple Apologists can do - is play silly games all day, every day

[Arlen H. Holder]

Proof that all the Apple Apologists _can_ do - is play childish games.

What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc>

Facts:
1. Ant asked a question about interfacing iOS to Mac on 9/10
2. I provided a tested solution that works iOS to Ubuntu on 9/11
HINT: It took less than 2 minutes to perform the iOS to Linux copy!
3. The Apple Apologist nospam says on 9/11 the Mac can do that too
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/LHlelTlzBAAJ>
4. Multiple endless childish comments ensue by the Apple Apologists
5. As of today, 9/20, Ant is _still_ spectacularly unsuccessful

Only three people offered _any_ kind of potential solution for Ant:
- sms
- nospam
- me
Where my solution was tested, documented, and explained in full detail.

The thread has scores of posts by now, and Ant is still unsuccessful.
99% of those posts are childish garbage from the Apple Apologists.

HINT: The childish garbage _always_ comes from the Apple Apologists.

That's proof that all the Apple Apologists _can_ do - is play games.

If you read the myriad posts from the likes of the following, you'll see
not one of them actually supplies the OP with anything resembling a
purposefully helpful answer.
- Jolly Roger (one of the three dumbest iOS posters)
- Tim Streater (one of the two dumbest Mac posters)
- Lewis (one of the three dumbest iOS posters)
- BKatOnRamp (one of the three dumbest iOS posters)
- 543sda (relatively new to me - speaks like a child)
- Chris (sometimes actually has adult content - but rarely)
- Elden (relatively new to me - speaks like a child)

The prove is obvious - not by what I say - but by what _they_ say.
*All these Apple Apologists _can_ do, is play their childish games.*

Meanwhile, the OP is spectacularly unsuccessful copying 400 photos from an
iOS device over to the Mac. That's a fact.

Why don't one of you Mac "experts" help the OP out?
HINT: You can't. All you _can_ do, is play silly childish games.

--
If nospam was right, 1 minute 55 seconds, & Ant would have been done!
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:07:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> Proof that all the Apple Apologists _can_ do - is play childish games.

Proof.

1. The Apple Apologist "joe" (to his credit) tried Ubuntu to mount iOS file
systems, read and write on his Mac.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/viu-en9NCwAJ>

2. However, being an Apple Apologist, the split second "joe" ran into even
the most minor of hurdles, he cried like a little baby (complaining, in
effect, that Apple MARKETING didn't give him any "buttons" to interface
with the real world).
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/2Aj3ZXZJCwAJ>

3. This technically incompetent crybaby then blames "me", of all people,
simply because the Apple Apologist "joe" is technically incompetent.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/WtnZASaKCwAJ>

Hence "joe" blamed me given his own natural tendency to "just give up".
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GkGHMGnvKkY/fvdXmNZOCwAJ>

HINT: Apple users "just give up" every day, all day, whenever they're faced
with interfacing with the real world.

Meanwhile, with the help of one helpful Apple adult (Wolffan), and with the
help of a few in the Linux group (Paul, Mike Easter, & Aragorn).
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GkGHMGnvKkY/1U_YkPqICwAJ>

With that adult advice, in about fifteen minutes elapsed time, together we
"solved" all of the Apple Apologists' stated problems (AFAIK), and I don't
even own a Mac for Christs' sake.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/4_wK3sSQCwAJ>

The Apple Apologists prove they're not adults.
And, they prove have no technical competence whatsoever.

The moment they run into any real-world problem, they cry like babies.
They proved the moment they run into a minor hurdle, they "just give up".

They complain, like "joe" effectively did, that Apple Marketing didn't give
them a button to interface with the real world.

Hence, yet again, Apple Apologists like "joe" prove, all they _can_ do, is
play silly games.

Meanwhile, adults easily get past minor technical hurdles:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/NLdxBd8NCwAJ>

[joe]

On 9/22/2018 12:05 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:07:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:
>
>> Proof that all the Apple Apologists _can_ do - is play childish games.
>
> Proof.

Those who do not know Arlen should read the threads he references. They
show his false claims, how he puts down anyone who does not agree with
him. It also shows how condescending he gets when trying to someone to
do what he can't.

>
> 1. The Apple Apologist "joe" (to his credit) tried Ubuntu to mount iOS file
> systems, read and write on his Mac.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/viu-en9NCwAJ>
>
> 2. However, being an Apple Apologist, the split second "joe" ran into even
> the most minor of hurdles, he cried like a little baby (complaining, in
> effect, that Apple MARKETING didn't give him any "buttons" to interface
> with the real world).
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/2Aj3ZXZJCwAJ>

That completely misrepresents my statements. Arlen is lying.

>
> 3. This technically incompetent crybaby then blames "me", of all people,
> simply because the Apple Apologist "joe" is technically incompetent.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/WtnZASaKCwAJ>

Arlen said I was going to dp something. He had no evidence to that. It
is just a made up lie on his part.

>
> Hence "joe" blamed me given his own natural tendency to "just give up".
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GkGHMGnvKkY/fvdXmNZOCwAJ>

However, I accomplished the task Ant wanted to do. I was done with the
effort. There was nothing else necessary to do. I was not about to waste
my time on something other than what Ant had requested.

Arlen's statement that his approach was "brilliantly simple and wholly
unrestricted" was plainly wrong. In one of the other threads he links he
showed how complicated his solution actually is.

What's really interesting is it appears one has to take the system disk
out of the MacBook based upon "Plug in the external HFS+ non-journeled
drive into Ubuntu".

>
> HINT: Apple users "just give up" every day, all day, whenever they're faced
> with interfacing with the real world.
>
> Meanwhile, with the help of one helpful Apple adult (Wolffan), and with the
> help of a few in the Linux group (Paul, Mike Easter, & Aragorn).
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GkGHMGnvKkY/1U_YkPqICwAJ>
>

Arlen has to ask others for help. He does not know what he is doing.

> With that adult advice, in about fifteen minutes elapsed time, together we
> "solved" all of the Apple Apologists' stated problems (AFAIK), and I don't
> even own a Mac for Christs' sake.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/4_wK3sSQCwAJ>

He claims to have solve his problems,but also admits he can't even tell
for sure since he does not even own a Mac.

>
> The Apple Apologists prove they're not adults.
> And, they prove have no technical competence whatsoever.
>
> The moment they run into any real-world problem, they cry like babies.
> They proved the moment they run into a minor hurdle, they "just give up".
>
> They complain, like "joe" effectively did, that Apple Marketing didn't give
> them a button to interface with the real world.
>

I NEVER made any statement to that effect.

> Hence, yet again, Apple Apologists like "joe" prove, all they _can_ do, is
> play silly games.
>

You are playing the games with all your lies.

> Meanwhile, adults easily get past minor technical hurdles:
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/NLdxBd8NCwAJ>
>

He claims something is simple when his own description show how
complicated it may really be.

The real solution to the original question is much simpler. Arlen can't
handle that.

[Your Name]

On 2018-09-22 22:06:22 +0000, joe said:
> On 9/22/2018 12:05 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:07:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:
>>>
>>> Proof that all the Apple Apologists _can_ do - is play childish games.
>>
>> Proof.
>
> Those who do not know Arlen should read the threads he references. They
> show his false claims, how he puts down anyone who does not agree with
> him. It also shows how condescending he gets when trying to someone to
> do what he can't.

Please just stop replying to the moronic troll and killfile it.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:09:41 +1200, Your Name wrote:

> Please just stop replying to the moronic troll and killfile it.

You are an Apple Apologist "Your Name".
That means you prove, in every post, you act like a child acts.

Which is _exactly_ what you just proved - by your own admission.

I provided a solution to Ant and to "joe" that works *perfectly* to allow
anyone to connect any iOS device to any Mac or Windows or Linux desktop and
instantly gain full and complete access to the entire visible file system,
*read and write* to all devices, simultaneously
- Windows
- Linux
- Mac
- iOS
- Android
- etc. (i.e., almost anything you can plug in)

*That is a big deal!*
HINT: Apple MARKETING didn't give you a button to do that! :)

What is your childish response to that powerful capability, Your Name?
You hate me simply because I can do what you will _never_ be able to do.

You prove your visceral hatred of facts with your own words.
*Why do you waste everyone's time, Your Name, with your childish games?*

I'm appalled at how fantastically _stupid_ all your Apple Apologists are.
a. You can't do anything if Marketing didn't give you a button for it
b. That means you're dead when you need to interface to the real world
c. You cry like babies and give up the instant something doesn't work

What's irksome is that I'm only of average intelligence and yet, I
literally tower over each and every one of you Apple Apologists.
- Your Name
- Chris
- Joe
- nospam
- Lewis
- BKatOnRamp
- Savageduck
- Tim Streater
- Alan Baker

*It's just very sad that you're all actually _that_ incredibly stupid.*

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:06:22 -0500, joe wrote:

> Those who do not know Arlen should read the threads he references. They
> show his false claims, how he puts down anyone who does not agree with
> him. It also shows how condescending he gets when trying to someone to
> do what he can't.

Hi "joe",
Your visceral hatred of facts shows up in _every_ one of your posts.
a. You tried to boot to Ubuntu (I gave you credit for that)
b. That's far more than _any_ other Apple Apologists _can_ do!
c. You cry like a baby & *just give up* the moment you hit a minor snag.

Meanwhile, I _solved_ the issues you cried like a baby about.
It took all of 15 minutes, and I don't even have a Mac, for heaven's sake.

What's irksome is how incredibly _stupid_ you Apple Apologists prove to be!

> What's really interesting is it appears one has to take the system disk
> out of the MacBook based upon "Plug in the external HFS+ non-journeled
> drive into Ubuntu".

You just proved, again, that you're an idiot, "joe".

You comprehended absolutely _nothing_ (just like nospam) in that tutorial!
You don't have to take the disk out, for Christs' sake.

Jesus. *How can you Apple Apologists actually be _that_ incredibly stupid?*

> Arlen has to ask others for help. He does not know what he is doing.

Jesus. Do you Apple Apologists ever _think_ about what you write?
Must you prove you're utter _morons_ every single time you post?

I don't even have a Mac, for Christs' sake.
Asking for advice from Linux users and Mac users is, um, normal, you know.

Every time you post, "joe", you prove your mentality is that of a child.

I'm not ashamed to ask for advice from Linux users or Mac users.
You seem to think that asking for advice so that we can, together, solve
all the cross-platform issues that occur in the real world, is, um,
somehow, unmanly.

Jesus, "joe", are you really that incredibly childish?
Do you ever even _read_ what insanely childish drivel your mind dreams up?

You Apple Apologists are so incredibly childish, that it boggles the mind.

> You are playing the games with all your lies.

Jesus.
a. You proved you *failed* doing even the _simplest_ of tasks
b. You proved you "just gave up" the instant you ran into a technical issue
c. You proved you cried like a baby that you couldn't get it to work
d. You proved you didn't even comprehend the solution I gave you

And then, you say I'm playing games with lies?

Jesus.
Every time you Apple Apologists post - all you do is prove you're stupid.
Really.

It's sad that people like you are _that_ incredibly stupid.
I pray to God that you don't vote.

> He claims something is simple when his own description show how
> complicated it may really be.

Jesus.
You think _that_ tutorial is complicated?

Really?
Are you freaking serious?

OMG. What will happen to you when you actually run into an even _slightly_
complex solution to a real-world problem?

You will cry and wail like a baby, "joe".
The real world is too complex for you.

> The real solution to the original question is much simpler.
> Arlen can't handle that.

Actually, that both you and nospam completely whooshed on what is a
trivially simple solution has taught me something about you Apple
Apologists.

You can't handle anything in the real world. Nothing.

I guess that's why you love being imprisoned inside the walled garden.
Thank you, both you and nospam, "joe", for proving how your mind works.

[Andreas Rutishauser]

In article <po5sp9$gqo$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:07:51 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:
>
> > Proof that all the Apple Apologists _can_ do - is play childish games.

> Meanwhile, with the help of one helpful Apple adult (Wolffan), and with the
> help of a few in the Linux group (Paul, Mike Easter, & Aragorn).
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GkGHMGnvKkY/1U_YkPq
> ICwAJ>
>
> With that adult advice, in about fifteen minutes elapsed time, together we
> "solved" all of the Apple Apologists' stated problems (AFAIK), and I don't
> even own a Mac for Christs' sake.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/4_wK3sS
> QCwAJ>

why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?

Every Mac comes with at least 2 capable programs to copy photos from an
iDevice to that mac: Photos and Image Capture.

No fancy.

Just done

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[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 06:34:40 +0200, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:

> why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?
>
> Every Mac comes with at least 2 capable programs to copy photos from an
> iDevice to that mac: Photos and Image Capture.
>
> No fancy.
>
> Just done

Hehhehheh...

You have no idea what you just proved by your own words.

It's unfathomable, how _stupid_ you people *prove* you are by explaining
the shockingly restricted limits of your child-like reasoning, in every
post.

HINT: You can't do 1/100th with your system, of what the tutorial allows.

DOUBLEHINT: If all you do with an iOS device, is play games and use it as a
toy, then your thought process is fine (since you don't actually "do
anything" with the iOS device - but - if you actually _do things_ with an
iOS device, it would be abundantly clear in about 10 seconds of interfacing
with the real world that your system can't do 99 out of 100 tasks that the
proposed system can do.

*Every time you post, I learn more about how your child-like minds work.*

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 06:34:40 +0200, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:

> why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?

TRIPLE HINT: You didn't get a _single_ statement correct. Not a single one!

Proof positive that you Apple morons can't even *comprehend* a simple post
that clearly states
a. You don't need a linux machine (you morons!)
b. You don't need an external disk (you morons!)

Every single time you Apple morons post, I have to shake my head in utter
wonderment ...

It's unfathomable how shockingly _stupid_ every one of you proves to be.

HINT: Andreas Rutishauser... you didn't correctly comprehend a _single_
thing in that tutorial. Jesus. You're all utter morons.

Jesus. Please God, find me one intelligent Apple Apologist. Just one.
Please Dear God.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On 23 Sep 2018 17:18:30 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> "Mac users are sooooo stupid, y'all! They didn't even use Linux to
> import their photos! WHAT IDIOTS!"

If it's so easy with the Mac & iOS to transfer any desired file both ways,
to or from any desired portion of the visible file system, Jolly Roger, why
is it a fact that Ant, after more than two weeks (elapsed time), is still
spectacularly unsuccessful?

[Alan Browne]

+1

--
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need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
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[Arlen H. Holder]

On 23 Sep 2018 18:41:03 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> It is "so easy", as I have shown (and you purposely trimmed out above).
> Ant wanted to transfer photos from iOS to a Mac - nothing more. And that
> is brain-dead easy: open Photos / Image Capture ad click Import - DONE.
> You desperately added more conditions trying to claim the transfer must
> be both ways to and from any OS, etc afterwards to try to change the
> topic, which is why you've trimmed the quoting above to omit the
> brain-dead-simple steps required to accomplish what Ant asked about.
> Troll, troll, troll your boat...

If it's so easy, then why is Ant so spectacularly unsuccessful?

Let's get some facts straight, hoping you can comprehend them.
a. I don't limit myself to the Orwellian prison of the walled garden
b. You limit yourself to the "Photos" and/or "Image Capture walled garden

1. I copy from anywhere I want, to anywhere else I want
2. Using any iOS device I want, and using any desktop I want
3. I can even slide files to or from any Android device if I want
4. Likewise with any camera I want (although I didn't test that)
5. Or any USB stick I want, or any USB drive I want
6. Or any network drive I want (the list goes on and on)
7. Just by sliding the files using the default desktop file manager
8. And, all that power & flexibility requires _zero_ additional software
9. All it takes in intelligence (to comprehend the brilliant system)
10. And about two minutes time (for 400 full-size photos)

You proved can only do what Apple Marketing gave you buttons to do.
I proved I can do anything I want to do.

Nonetheless, the fact is that Ant has been spectacularly unsuccessful.
Why?

[Arlen H. Holder]

On 24 Sep 2018 01:18:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Ant hasn't tried doing it with Image Capture or Photos.

Every time you post, Jolly Roger, I learn _more_ about how the mind of the
average iOS user actually works.

HINT: The average iOS users has not the mind of a normal adult.

Want proof?
Watch for the answer from Jolly Roger to this basic adult question...

*Do you even _know_ why, Jolly Roger, Ant has been unsuccessful?

HINT: You're so stupid, you don't even know why your methods fail!

The fact that _all_ the so-called "solutions" proposed by the Apple
Apologists fail to actually work in the real world, is proof enough that
what I say is valid verified fact.

*Apple Apologists' solutions only work in their own imagination!*