In case U missed my Goodbye thread.. all my best everyone..
PecPanther
> > > PecPanther <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ..Just wish you all could learn to exist amongst one another and show a
> > > > little respect for one anothers differences..and perhaps agree to
> > > > disagree, or something?? anyway..Curt was here long before I was, and it
> > > > would be nice if you Both would call a truce.
> > >
> > > Fuck off already, willya? Sheesh.
> >
> > Uncalled for. Geesh.. sheesh.
>
> And the ridiculous bullshit you post is "called for?" I think not. So
> please do fuck off at your earliest convenience!
You Know "Can it", I Could respond by saying something like, "
What's Up with the Mosquito?? Go away little bug.. or something like,
" Man, someone needs to get Laid and it aint Me!" and/or " Mind your
own Business Queenie" But with this post and the havoc that will not
stop between JMW and Curt I realize that my presence here has created
More of a Disturbance, and more of a problem for you Curt, as I am a
vice that is used as ammunition against you by people who by reasons
Unbeknown to myself, have a severe problem with you.
I am sorry if my presence here was taken the wrong way, and if by being
taken the wrong way has offended anyone. See I really am here for
myself and not the work in which I do. My work does NOT define who I am
inside and how I conduct my life when I am NOT in FRont of the
camera... actually it is the exact Opposite..BU SSShh Don't tell
anyone, it will RUIN my Business.. My work actually Is my Alter ego...
and I would just like for people to get to knpw me for Me and not what
I Look like or what I DO...But Lynn as a person... I guess that will
have to wait till my Book s written and I may be dead and gone by
then., but That is okay,..It will be a Best seller with Much to offer
in the way of hope and inspiration .... You See JMW..I Really AM a
Nice a sweat Gal..one of my BIGGEST Downfalls in Life..Too Sweat...TOO
Kind...TOO Generous...and I am NOT here and/or being nice to Curt or
just anyone cuz " IT's MY JOB." It just is the way I am,
Period...contrary to what people's speculations may be.... and
QUEENIE.... I was Just Playing Around with JMW as I was trying to show
him a similar treatment of his ways with Curt...JMW Knew that and did
not take it Personally... again I apologize if anything I said offended
YOU and that " You" think I am Full of Bullshit.
In any case... I thought since 70% of my Life's time here has been
dedicated to the sport of BB and the Lifestyle that This Would be One
group that I Myself as LYNN McCrossin WOULD Fit In...but I guess here
too as in the outside world..I am just too much for people to handle
their own insecurieties or issues to get past my sirface and look at
Me..... you guys think this is Easy for someone like Me?? But then
again you do NOT Know Me, so why should Any of this
Matter.........There is TOO much here to try to explain to you all and
I have Never been busier with my Training and many projects with
deadlines pending, moreover I am facilitating and supportng my daughter
in her preparation for American Idol auditions... so I am not going to
waste my Minimal and Valuable time where I am not respected, accepted,
nor wanted, in order to help you guys get a better perspective and
handle on things... Bottom line is..I Always like to be a Positive
element in my interactions in whomevers peoples lives I cross... I can
do no good here, not even for YOU Curt, so I Am walking away from all
this nonsense.
Rob, I will be in touch and check out your drums..I am glad we had the
opportunity to change our correspondences around to an understanding
and respecting one another... Curt and others who may want to be in
touch..Please feel free to do so..and if I do not have time to respond
right away, just know that I WILL, when my schedule permits, so do not
feel that your emails are not welcome.
Best of Luck to you JMW...keep up the good work of the dedication you
have put into your physique and turning that around.
God Bless You All and now that I only had Good Intentions of being
here...
.......... onto a New Chapter...
xo Lynn McCrossin aka The PecPanther www.pecpanther.com
PecPanther
SORRY FOR ALL THE TYPOS!!!! AUGHGHGHGH!!! Hahaahah...Oh well...
ha.Take care Dudes... and the few ladies left here... be well... xo
Lynn
PecPanther
SORRY FOR ALL THE TYPOS!!!! AUGHGHGHGH!!! Hahaahah...Oh well...
yttrx
>> > The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
>> > > PecPanther <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > ..Just wish you all could learn to exist amongst one another and show a
>> > > > little respect for one anothers differences..and perhaps agree to
>> > > > disagree, or something?? anyway..Curt was here long before I was, and it
>> > > > would be nice if you Both would call a truce.
>> > >
>> > > Fuck off already, willya? Sheesh.
>> >
>> > Uncalled for. Geesh.. sheesh.
>>
>> And the ridiculous bullshit you post is "called for?" I think not. So
>> please do fuck off at your earliest convenience!
>
> You Know "Can it", I Could respond by saying something like, "
> What's Up with the Mosquito?? Go away little bug.. or something like,
> " Man, someone needs to get Laid and it aint Me!" and/or " Mind your
> own Business Queenie" But with this post and the havoc that will not
> stop between JMW and Curt I realize that my presence here has created
> More of a Disturbance, and more of a problem for you Curt, as I am a
> vice that is used as ammunition against you by people who by reasons
> Unbeknown to myself, have a severe problem with you.
>
The reasons are many and wildly varied, but generally all fall under
the themes of "giant asshole", "creepy bastard", "malicious, malevolent,
insensitive, selfish prick" and "sociopathic motherfucker".
He's despised by literally hundreds upon hundreds of people, at LEAST--
and each and every one of them has a very good reason for feeling the
way they do.
-----yttrx
Curt James
[...]
> <snip> But with this post and the havoc that will not
> stop between JMW and Curt I realize that my presence
> here has created More of a Disturbance, and more of
> a problem for you Curt, as I am a vice that is used as
> ammunition against you by people who by reasons
> Unbeknown to myself, have a severe problem with you.
Hey, please don't use me as a reason for exiting this newsgroup, Lynn.
If not you then some other "reason" will arise for JMW and any others
who might not enjoy my posts.
Larry Hodges used TBR as an excuse to exit the newsgroup and that
always struck me as weak. You, however, are obviously not weak.
Regardless, I wish you the best and absolutely no apologies are
necessary, Lynn.
> .......... onto a New Chapter...
> xo Lynn McCrossin aka The PecPanther www.pecpanther.com
Take care and know that you're always welcome to return or to change
your mind on this decision. :o)
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
PecPanther
Dear Curt,
It's pure and simple... don't feel badly about my leaving, it is not
your fault....it is not weakness that I leave..it is called being wise
in a better use of my time and energy...you know , one thing I need to
add to give you people something to really " process" for those that
Believe I was simply here to spam ...Let me ask them This... I have a
WebCam sitting right here on my desk that I have not hooked up as
yet...I have been procrastinating for Various reasons, and/or too busy
to implement this into my schedule... HOWEVER, If I was ALL about the
Money..I Could have implemented this when I began posting hefe over a
month ago as I have had all the tools to DO so..in Other words, the
Time I spent Here, I COULD have been making 6.99 a Minute on my Live
webcam instead of hanging in there with this group and continually get
cut downs and disrespect.... why Should I Remain?? There are thousands
of people just waiting to interact with me , that Give me respect and
that DO care about the " Real ME" Vs. the Panther... It does NOT take
a Brain Surgeon to see that I, in General, have dedicated my Life to
helping Others in one form or another... I am NOT a Positive Force
here, AND my life is up for Speculation and Accusations, OR for
whomever wants to DREAM Up what they " THINK" they Know about me...
well Curt...I am striving for more Normalcy in my life,. I thought I
could find it here and be 'jus one of the guys' it's not gonna
happen... nothing against anyone here... life is unfair and unjust for
ALL of us, and we ALL have our Crosses to bare...unfortunately what was
once my 'Lifestyle' has become my Career and who I am and what I DO for
work are Two Totally different entities... the old saying...I made my
Own Bed and Now I have to sleep in it...it's just another rude
awakening to the realities and the evolutions of Life....
in the meantime Curt...Big Blondie is Back now and will take good care
of you... but before I Leave..Trying to give Kim Bassinger a Run for
her Blondeness...here are some Pics of me as a Blonde 3 years back... I
miss my Blonde Mane sometimes...and NO guys it is NOT a wig! Enjoy
the Pics Curt... the rest of you can choose NOT to View them... dont
worry....G Rated!
Take care everyone .... I wish you ALL the very best. :-))
xo
Lynn McCrossin
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/rl1nyc1.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/lynyccol3.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/lynyccol4.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/nybw44.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/a025.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/rl1gen7.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/rl4gen22.jpg
http://www.pecpanther.com/images/lynnimpgal/rl7gen27.jpg
David Cohen
"PecPanther" <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote
<snip>
Dear Lynn,
In case you were confused, here's dictionary.com's entry for the word
"goodbye":
1. An acknowledgment at parting
2. An act of parting or leave-taking
Hope this clears up any confusion you may have had.
Goodbye.
David
PecPanther
Dear David,
Unlike Most MEN...I believe in " CLOSURE" why don't You go look That
up in your 'little' Dictionary...BTW... Nice sign to your
office...Can't Miss that from the Highway! Great Marketing... take
care...GoodBYE. Lynn
The Queen of Cans and Jars
PecPanther
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
Not cause YOU say so Ass Wipe.
Lynn
The Queen of Cans and Jars
The Queen of Cans and Jars
David Cohen
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote
Most insane people don't think they're insane. That lack of self awareness
is characteristic of many psychiatric disorders.
I did have one paranoid schizophrenic patient who did have that self
awareness. She had run out of her meds, and started hearing the voices, but
realized, for the moment, that they weren't real, and called 911 to go to
the hospital to get help.
Maybe it was one of Lynn's other voices that said "goodbye".
David
Robert Schuh
This guy/girl is also a main reason why so much in Usenet is fucked too. The fact
that this person is so willing to attack Curt, yet does not have the courage nor the
integrity to post their name, shows that they are no better than Curt. I think Curt
is a useless piece of shit too, but at least he signs his name. These anonymous
posters are no better than any of the trolls they talk shit about.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
Robert Schuh
> PecPanther <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> > > PecPanther <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You Know "Can it"
> > >
> > > Are you shutting the fuck up yet?
> >
> > Not cause YOU say so Ass Wipe.
>
> How can we miss you if you won't go away?
Why don't you post your name? You are a coward.
Jason Earl
Apparently I am the only one here that thinks that Curt is funny. He
stirs things up a bit, but he's at least pretty clever about it. He
manages to stay on topic at least some of the time.
Jason
PecPanther
Poor excuse of a Dr. I would say...makes a diagnosis over the internet?
Ha... come on Dr. David Cohen...U have no heart? And your a DR? I
bet your sign cost More than your office space... Good day Doc... yah
I'm done now... except one thing for all...this has nothing to do with
Curt..everyone is Curt this, Curt That... it is a Community
effort...this community sucks..I'm Movin' on... yeah..I'm Done' Doc of
Hearts'
Pete
> Unlike Most MEN...I believe in " CLOSURE" why don't You go look That
> up in your 'little' Dictionary...BTW... Nice sign to your
> office...Can't Miss that from the Highway! Great Marketing... take
> care...GoodBYE. Lynn
You have a BillBoard placed somewhere you never told us about, David?
----
Pete
Pete
> Most insane people don't think they're insane. That lack of self awareness
> is characteristic of many psychiatric disorders.
I still am convinced i am normal... i think. Maybe...
> I did have one paranoid schizophrenic patient who did have that self
> awareness. She had run out of her meds, and started hearing the voices,
> but realized, for the moment, that they weren't real, and called 911 to go
> to the hospital to get help.
I hear those voices sometimes too...
"GO STICK THAT NEEDLE UP YOUR AS !!!" "DO IT" DO IT NOW !!!"
"YOU WILL REGRET IT IF YOU DONT !!!" "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!"
So... i stick that needle up my ass, and... voila, the voice disappears!
Acually, i dont want to do it, but the voices keep telling me...
I mean, what else can i do ?!?!?!?
----
Pete
P.S.I think its Robert who tells me to do it, its HIS voice...
JMW
Putting aside his personal animosity toward me, I think Curt is funny
like a mime: oddly amusing for a short while, but rather annoying in
the long run.
But, then again, maybe you like mimes.
Curt James
re... Well, who cares, really?
> This guy/girl
Oh, the irony.
> is also a main reason why so much in Usenet is
> fucked too.
Although I don't necessarily believe you're correct there. A certain
level of anonymity offers at least an imaginary feeling of security.
People can be a pill, you'd agree if you didn't have me killfiled. Do
you have me killfiled? Regardless, look at what they did with Hodges'
post. Absurd.
[...]
> I think Curt is a useless piece of shit too,
Always a pleasure, Bobby.
> but at least he signs his name.
This is true.
> These anonymous posters are no better than
> any of the trolls they talk shit about.
We're all better or worse depending on what facet of the individual you
happen to be looking at. I'm taller than you'll ever be while your
waist is a dimension I will never enjoy. My sense of humor, imo, is
developed to a much greater degree than yours, while your sense of
cynicism is polished to a razor's edge especially in comparison to
mine. ;o)
--
Curt
Jason Earl
I would admit that if he responded to my posts the same way that he
responded to your poss and Will's posts then I would probably have a
somewhat different opinion.
> But, then again, maybe you like mimes.
You don't expect me to answer that, do you?
Jason
The Queen of Cans and Jars
I wonder which one of her voices loves all the negative attention she
gets.
Curt James
re... Well, again, who cares?
> Why don't you post your name? You are a coward.
You're like a parrot.
A parrot with a 26-inch waist and an inflated sense of self-importance.
"WHY DON'T YOU POST YOUR NAME! BAWK! YOU ARE A COWARD! BAWK! BAWK! WHY
DON'T YOU POST YOUR NAME? YOU ARE A COWARD! BAWK! WHY DON'T YOU POST
YOUR NA..."
And Jason thinks *I'm* funny. You're a frigging riot.
--
Curt <--- My real name!
http://curtjames.com/ <--- My real pop fitness website! (Okay, it's
just an info page.)
OmManiPadmeOmelet
Robert Schuh <rsc...@hotspameggsyahoo.com> wrote:
> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
>
> > PecPanther <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> > > > PecPanther <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You Know "Can it"
> > > >
> > > > Are you shutting the fuck up yet?
> > >
> > > Not cause YOU say so Ass Wipe.
> >
> > How can we miss you if you won't go away?
>
> Why don't you post your name? You are a coward.
>
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
What's with you and your hangup with real names?
That's just creepy.....
--
Peace!
Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
OmManiPadmeOmelet
JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> >Apparently I am the only one here that thinks that Curt is funny. He
> >stirs things up a bit, but he's at least pretty clever about it. He
> >manages to stay on topic at least some of the time.
>
> Putting aside his personal animosity toward me, I think Curt is funny
> like a mime: oddly amusing for a short while, but rather annoying in
> the long run.
>
> But, then again, maybe you like mimes.
A Mime is a terrible thing to waste......
Om -> ducking and running ;-)
Curt James
[...]
re Robert Schuh
> What's with you and your hangup with real names? <snip>
Think Aesop's Fables.
I may have this wrong, of course, but his interest in real names smacks
of the fox who lost his tail.
For any unfamiliar with the tale:
A fox caught in a trap escaped, but in so doing lost his tail.
Thereafter, feeling his life a burden from the shame and ridicule to
which he was exposed, he schemed to convince all the other foxes that
being tailless was much more attractive, thus making up for his own
deprivation. He assembled a good many foxes and publicly advised them
to cut off their tails, saying that they would not only look much
better without them, but that they would get rid of the weight of the
brush, which was a very great inconvenience. One of them interrupting
him said, "If you had not yourself lost your tail, my friend, you would
not thus counsel us." From:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_aesop_fox_tail.htm
Schuh has been dinged in the past by merit of being available as his
real name allows. I remember the story about his drug bust. Do I
remember that or am I misrecalling? And I also remember the story of
him getting clouted in the schnozz. Is that another misrecollection?
Regardless, being a known quantity certainly allows those who would use
that information to a person's disadvantage the freedom to do so.
Perhaps Schuh, realizing the error in making himself so accessible
wants others to be in that same, some might call it weakened, position.
Or I think too much. ;o)
Gee, I don't learn, do I? I should follow the Schuh model.
"HE'S A WASTE OF TIME. A CLOWN AND A MORON! I HAVE HIM KILL FILED!"
--
Curt
ranieri
"PecPanther" <pec_p...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1155751065.2...@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>> > > > show a
>> > > > little respect for one anothers differences..and perhaps agree to
<snip long winded spiel>
> .......... onto a New Chapter...
> xo Lynn McCrossin aka The PecPanther www.pecpanther.com
>
Jesus christ, just go already. There's a revolving door of nutjobs here.
David Cohen
No. I have previously posted that I think Curt is often funny, or
interesting, or useful. When he isn't actively trolling.
So, Curt's usually ok with the atheist, and the theist. It's with the
agnostic that he has the most problems. But the agnostic is quite
capable of handling his own battles, and needs no help from me.
David
David Cohen
> Ha... come on Dr. David Cohen...U have no heart? And your a DR? I
> bet your sign cost More than your office space... Good day Doc... yah
> I'm done now... except one thing for all...this has nothing to do with
> Curt..everyone is Curt this, Curt That... it is a Community
> effort...this community sucks..I'm Movin' on... yeah..I'm Done' Doc of
> Hearts'
I am not a physician. I am the charge nurse in the pediatric intensive
care unit of the only level 1 trauma center for 10,000 square miles of
southern Nevada, southeastern California, southern Utah, and
northwestern Arizona. I am responsible for the care of the most
critically injured and critically ill children in that area.
What was it again that you do for a living?
David
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"David Cohen" <sammi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Poor excuse of a Dr. I would say...makes a diagnosis over the internet?
> > Ha... come on Dr. David Cohen...U have no heart? And your a DR? I
> > bet your sign cost More than your office space... Good day Doc... yah
> > I'm done now... except one thing for all...this has nothing to do with
> > Curt..everyone is Curt this, Curt That... it is a Community
> > effort...this community sucks..I'm Movin' on... yeah..I'm Done' Doc of
> > Hearts'
>
> I am not a physician. I am the charge nurse in the pediatric intensive
> care unit of the only level 1 trauma center for 10,000 square miles of
> southern Nevada, southeastern California, southern Utah, and
> northwestern Arizona. I am responsible for the care of the most
> critically injured and critically ill children in that area.
>
> What was it again that you do for a living?
>
> David
Ooh David, that was delightfully subtle. ;-)
<lol>
Well done!
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Schuh has been dinged in the past by merit of being available as his
> real name allows. I remember the story about his drug bust. Do I
> remember that or am I misrecalling? And I also remember the story of
> him getting clouted in the schnozz. Is that another misrecollection?
> Regardless, being a known quantity certainly allows those who would use
> that information to a person's disadvantage the freedom to do so.
> Perhaps Schuh, realizing the error in making himself so accessible
> wants others to be in that same, some might call it weakened, position.
>
>
> Or I think too much. ;o)
Sounds reasonable...... :-)
Curt James
> "Curt James" wrote:
re real name use on Usenet
> > <snip>has been dinged in the past by merit of being
> > available as his real name allows. I remember the story
> > about <snip> And I also remember the story of him
> > getting <snip>
> > Regardless, being a known quantity certainly allows
> > those who would use that information to a person's
> > disadvantage the freedom to do so. Perhaps <snip>,
> > realizing the error in making himself so accessible
> > wants others to be in that same, some might call it
> > weakened, position.
> >
> >
> > Or I think too much. ;o)
>
> Sounds reasonable...... :-)
What, the I think too much part? Or the other stuff? :oD Never mind!
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed...... ;-)
Curt James
> "Curt James" wrote:
> > > Sounds reasonable...... :-)
> >
> > What, the I think too much part? Or the other
> > stuff? :oD Never mind!
>
> Indeed...... ;-)
AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!!
> Peace!
> Om
Why am I even talking to you? That's not even your REAL name!
(ducks, runs, etc.)
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snork>
Ryan Case
>
> But, then again, maybe you like mimes.
Wow! A guy doesn't check the posts around here for a while and he comes
back to find John being really really nasty!
Ryan
Curt James
> JMW writes:
> > Putting aside his personal animosity toward me,
Personal animosity? Williams, how would you describe your behavior and
activities as they relate to yours truly? Cross-posting to other
newsgroups, the various web pages, as well as comments like the one
included in this post are all representative of what? Pot-kettle-black
at the very least. Hth.
> > I think Curt is funny like a mime: oddly amusing for
> > a short while, but rather annoying in the long run.
>
> I would admit that if he responded to my posts the same
> way that he responded to your poss and Will's posts then
> I would probably have a somewhat different opinion.
Not that you asked and fwiw, Jason, your demeanor and the respect you
show for, iirc, all the patrons of this newsgroup has been exemplary.
I've never had any reason to respond to your posts in any way other
than positive. I'd characterize Brink and Williams as sarcastic and
negative while I see you as energetic and positive.
> > But, then again, maybe you like mimes.
A stereotypical cheap shot. The mime is everyone's whipping boy. Still,
at 83, I'll bet Marcel Marceau is hella happier than you, John
Williams. And I'll bet Marceau doesn't have back pain! ;o)
> You don't expect me to answer that, do you?
Actually, I'm almost certain you'd enjoy a mime performance. Just a
guess, of course, but many entertainers capture an audience's
imagination with visual comedy. Furthermore...
http://www.blueman.com/
> Jason
--
Curt
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
"David Cohen" <sammi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155793013.3...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
He dresses like a woman and is currently undergoing transgender surgery
hoping to someday become womanly enough to fool the casual observer. Tho I
doubt he'll ever fool the general public, he might be able to fool himself.
Did you see the hack boob job? Obviously there's a very restricted budget
for the surgeries.
With all that "on his plate" he doesn't have time to do anything "for a
living".
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> JMW writes:
>
>> > Putting aside his personal animosity toward me,
>
> Personal animosity? Williams, how would you describe your behavior
> and activities as they relate to yours truly? Cross-posting to other
> newsgroups, the various web pages, as well as comments like the one
> included in this post are all representative of what?
> Pot-kettle-black at the very least. Hth.
>
>> > I think Curt is funny like a mime: oddly amusing for a short
>> > while, but rather annoying in the long run.
>>
>> I would admit that if he responded to my posts the same way that he
>> responded to your poss and Will's posts then I would probably have
>> a somewhat different opinion.
>
> Not that you asked and fwiw, Jason, your demeanor and the respect
> you show for, iirc, all the patrons of this newsgroup has been
> exemplary. I've never had any reason to respond to your posts in
> any way other than positive. I'd characterize Brink and Williams as
> sarcastic and negative while I see you as energetic and positive.
It's a good thing too, as I am funnier looking than either Will or
JMW.
>> > But, then again, maybe you like mimes.
>
> A stereotypical cheap shot. The mime is everyone's whipping
> boy. Still, at 83, I'll bet Marcel Marceau is hella happier than
> you, John Williams. And I'll bet Marceau doesn't have back pain! ;o)
Actually, I've been thinking about this, and I am not sure it is much
of a cheap shot. I once saw a mime who was pretty hilarious. It's
entirely possible that there is something wrong with me.
Jason
Curt James
> "Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> writes:
> > <snip>Jason, your demeanor and the respect you show
> > for, iirc, all the patrons of this newsgroup has been exemplary.
> > I've never had any reason to respond to your posts in any way
> > other than positive. I'd characterize Brink and Williams as
> > sarcastic and negative while I see you as energetic and positive.
>
> It's a good thing too, as I am funnier looking than either Will or
> JMW.
1) It's been said that I favor JMW.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/MFW/supahgeeeenius.jpg
I tend to agree with that assessment.
2) If you're funnier looking thAn Will, well, you should be working in
a carnival sideshow.
3) Juuuuuust kidding. They're both stunningly handsome. I'm sure ONE of
them is behind the reported split between Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.
...
(cough)
re JMW's "But, then again, maybe you like mimes."
> > A stereotypical cheap shot.
I said that looking at John's statement as a slam against mimes. By
"stereotypical cheap shot" I meant that there ARE plenty of people who
like mimes, but it's popular to dismiss them.
> > The mime is everyone's whipping boy. <snip>
>
> Actually, I've been thinking about this, and I am not sure it is much
> of a cheap shot.
Okay.
> I once saw a mime who was pretty hilarious. It's entirely
> possible that there is something wrong with me.
Hey, I can't argue with that statement!
I keed! I keed!
> Jason
Deadlifts in about two hours.
--
Curt
JMW
>"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> writes:
>> Jason Earl wrote:
>>> JMW writes:
>>
>>> > Putting aside his personal animosity toward me,
>>
>> Personal animosity? Williams, how would you describe your behavior
>> and activities as they relate to yours truly? Cross-posting to other
>> newsgroups, the various web pages, as well as comments like the one
>> included in this post are all representative of what?
>> Pot-kettle-black at the very least. Hth.
>>
>>> > I think Curt is funny like a mime: oddly amusing for a short
>>> > while, but rather annoying in the long run.
>>>
>>> I would admit that if he responded to my posts the same way that he
>>> responded to your poss and Will's posts then I would probably have
>>> a somewhat different opinion.
>>
>> Not that you asked and fwiw, Jason, your demeanor and the respect
>> you show for, iirc, all the patrons of this newsgroup has been
>> exemplary. I've never had any reason to respond to your posts in
>> any way other than positive. I'd characterize Brink and Williams as
>> sarcastic and negative while I see you as energetic and positive.
>
>It's a good thing too, as I am funnier looking than either Will or
>JMW.
But you'll never be able to suck up like Curt does. That kind of
sycophancy takes years of rigorous training.
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl <je...@xmission.com> wrote:
>>"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Jason Earl wrote:
<snip>
>>It's a good thing too, as I am funnier looking than either Will or
>>JMW.
>
> But you'll never be able to suck up like Curt does. That kind of
> sycophancy takes years of rigorous training.
I'm not adding anything to my training schedule until I can deadlift
more than Freides. So sycophancy will have to wait a bit.
Jason
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> > <snip>Jason, your demeanor and the respect you show
>> > for, iirc, all the patrons of this newsgroup has been exemplary.
>> > I've never had any reason to respond to your posts in any way
>> > other than positive. I'd characterize Brink and Williams as
>> > sarcastic and negative while I see you as energetic and positive.
>>
>> It's a good thing too, as I am funnier looking than either Will or
>> JMW.
>
> 1) It's been said that I favor JMW.
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/MFW/supahgeeeenius.jpg
Now that's a picture.
> I tend to agree with that assessment.
>
> 2) If you're funnier looking thAn Will, well, you should be working
> in a carnival sideshow.
Will isn't that funny looking, he's just short.
> 3) Juuuuuust kidding. They're both stunningly handsome. I'm sure ONE
> of them is behind the reported split between Brad Pitt and Angelina
> Jolie.
>
> ...
>
> (cough)
Let's not get carried away.
> re JMW's "But, then again, maybe you like mimes."
>
>> > A stereotypical cheap shot.
>
> I said that looking at John's statement as a slam against mimes. By
> "stereotypical cheap shot" I meant that there ARE plenty of people
> who like mimes, but it's popular to dismiss them.
That's the point of slamming mimes. No snappy comebacks.
>> > The mime is everyone's whipping boy. <snip>
>>
>> Actually, I've been thinking about this, and I am not sure it is
>> much of a cheap shot.
>
> Okay.
>
>> I once saw a mime who was pretty hilarious. It's entirely possible
>> that there is something wrong with me.
>
> Hey, I can't argue with that statement!
>
> I keed! I keed!
My wife makes that same joke all the time.
>> Jason
>
> Deadlifts in about two hours.
I'm starting mine in just a few minutes.
Jason
Curt James
[...]
> But you'll never be able to suck up like Curt does. That
> kind of sycophancy takes years of rigorous training.
What's interesting is that sycophant comes from the Latin for informer
and slanderer which is quite the snapshot of your behavior, imo. You
like to think you have the full picture, but typically you're
assessment is half-baked at best. And a slanderer? Well, you do try,
but you simply make yourself out to be a fool, imo. Go make an animated
gif, Johnny.
--
Curt
Henry
> David Cohen wrote:
>>Maybe it was one of Lynn's other voices that said "goodbye".
>>David
> Poor excuse of a Dr. I would say...makes a diagnosis over the internet?
Cohen is an extremist and an imbecile. His "thoughts"
rarely have any connection to reality.
--
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
Henry
> Robert Schuh wrote:
> re... Well, again, who cares?
>>Why don't you post your name? You are a coward.
> You're like a parrot.
He's also a coward. He started a thread about demolition,
calling his many betters morons, yet when it's shown that his
post actually helps prove that WTC7 was demolished, the timid
little pussy just runs and hides. He's a joke.....
--
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
Henry
> I am not a physician. I am the charge nurse in the pediatric intensive
> care unit of the only level 1 trauma center for 10,000 square miles of
> southern Nevada, southeastern California, southern Utah, and
> northwestern Arizona. I am responsible for the care of the most
> critically injured and critically ill children in that area.
Odd then, that you support Bush's and Israel's terrorism
and war crimes, which has caused unspeakable trauma to
thousands of innocent children. Are you also insane?
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
re an anonymous poster
> >>Why don't you post your name? You are a coward.
>
> > You're like a parrot.
>
> He's also a coward.
At best, that's a difficult determination to make via the Internet,
Henry. He's certainly repetitive. Of course so are you with your WTC7
on and on and on. And I'm guilty of repeating my entreaty to look at
Zinczenko's tome.
> He started a thread about demolition,
I musta missed that one.
> calling his many betters
Betters? Somethingsomething Flowers for Algernon when the character of
Charly offers something like, "All men are better than me as I can
learn something from them."
I most certainly butchered the quote, but if you disagree with the gist
then, well, perhaps you could learn something, too. ;o)
> morons,
We're all morons in one way or another, aren't we? Williams fills that
bill with his... "personality." You've met the requirements by pitching
your conspiracy theory (or facts) repeatedly to a newsgroup with little
apparent interest in that subject - especially within the context of
fitness and weights. I've got moron covered in more ways than one, but,
hey, I try to keep all things in perspective.
> yet when it's shown that his post actually helps
> prove that WTC7 was demolished,
It was demolished. By a plane. By fire. By explosions. End of story
(hopefully). Rest in Peace to those lost.
> the timid little pussy just runs and hides. He's a joke.....
I won't argue with you more than I have above, but I'll bet Bobby would
put up a good fight for one of his kittens. Have you visited his
website? More than one pic posted showing (I'm guessing it's) him
holding a cat there.
Tonight I deadlifted and did pulldowns, bent rows, seated rows, and leg
curls. Afterwards, four of us stood around and bullshitted for an hour
outside the gym about football, bars in Harrisburg, women, and more. A
good night.
And you?
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Jason Earl
> JMWhither-the-fool? wrote:
> [...]
>
>> But you'll never be able to suck up like Curt does. That kind of
>> sycophancy takes years of rigorous training.
>
> What's interesting is that sycophant comes from the Latin for
> informer and slanderer...
Uh, no, that's actually not interesting :).
I am truly sorry.
Jason
Curt James
> "Curt James" writes:
>
> > JMWhither-the-fool? wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> But you'll never be able to suck up like Curt does. That kind of
> >> sycophancy takes years of rigorous training.
> >
> > What's interesting is that sycophant comes from the Latin for
> > informer and slanderer...
>
> Uh, no, that's actually not interesting :).
>
> I am truly sorry.
Whither the editor!!!!!?
"What's interesting TO ME is that..." :o)
> Jason
(Way to NOT suck up, J.)
--
Curt
JMW
That's where your sychophancy training is lacking. You need to put
some effort into it. Let's give it another try. Say:
"That was hilarious, Curt! It was engergetic and positive, too. You
should give that a try in alt.comedy.standup! Best of luck! Please
report back with your results."
Henry
> Henry wrote:
> > yet when it's shown that his post actually helps
> > prove that WTC7 was demolished,
> It was demolished. By a plane. By fire. By explosions.
> End of story (hopefully). Rest in Peace to those lost.
WTC7 was hit by a plane? I wish I could say that's the
frist time I heard that nonsense, but it seems ignorance
with regard to what took place on 9-11-01 runs pretty
deep among U.S. citizens...
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
Dick Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
yttrx
>
> It was demolished. By a plane. By fire. By explosions. End of story
> (hopefully). Rest in Peace to those lost.
>
Don't pretend to be sensitive to the death of anyone, Curt. These
people probably know better than to believe that you're anything
but a black-hearted, malicious, malevolent, malignant, destructive
asshole who wouldnt shed a tear for the mother of a child smeared
all over a street unless he thought for a minute it was going to
make him more popular on Usenet...
But you never know. Maybe not EVERYONE knows you, Curt.
-----yttrx
yttrx
> Curt James wrote:
>> Henry wrote:
>
>> > yet when it's shown that his post actually helps
>> > prove that WTC7 was demolished,
>
>> It was demolished. By a plane. By fire. By explosions.
>> End of story (hopefully). Rest in Peace to those lost.
>
> WTC7 was hit by a plane? I wish I could say that's the
> frist time I heard that nonsense, but it seems ignorance
> with regard to what took place on 9-11-01 runs pretty
> deep among U.S. citizens...
>
>
Not among new yorkers.
-----yttrx
yttrx
Johnny, while you're making that animated gif, see if you can make
one of curt being pissed on. He really, really likes that.
-----yttrx
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
> > Henry wrote:
>
> > > yet when it's shown that his post actually helps
> > > prove that WTC7 was demolished,
>
> > It was demolished. By a plane. By fire. By explosions.
> > End of story (hopefully). Rest in Peace to those lost.
>
> WTC7 was hit by a plane? I wish I could say that's the
> frist time I heard that nonsense, but it seems ignorance
> with regard to what took place on 9-11-01 runs pretty
> deep among U.S. citizens...
Henry, enjoy your perspective, your interpretation of statements made
by myself and anyone else as well as the facts as presented by the 9/11
Commission, however based on the following words I'd say a plane, fire,
and explosions caused the destruction of much more than just the Twin
Towers on September 11, 2001.
"In addition to the 110-floor Twin Towers of the World Trade Center
itself, five other buildings at the World Trade Center site, including
7 World Trade Center and the Marriott Hotel, and four New York City
Subway stations were destroyed or badly damaged. In total, on Manhattan
Island, 25 buildings were damaged and all seven buildings of the World
Trade Center Complex had to be razed. Later, an eighth building, the
Deutsche Bank Building across Liberty Street from the World Trade
Center complex had to be demolished as well, due to the uninhabitable,
toxic conditions inside the office tower." From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks
Hth.
--
Curt
JMW
Oh, heavens, no! That would not be genteel.
BTW, did Curt share with RAB his fears over the lump (parotid
pleomorphic adenoma) on his neck? That did prompt me to prepare this
rendering:
Jason Earl
I'm just saying. Digging up the obscure roots of words is about as
interesting as watching paint dry... underwater. I should know, one
of the mistakes I made quite often when I got back from South America
was to comment endlessly on the roots of English words that had Latin
roots.
I'm just trying to help.
Besides, if I didn't interject occasionally then these threads would
devolve into a three-way between JMW, your stalker from rab, and
yourself, and that's hardly fun at all.
Jason
yttrx
I do not remember him doing that! And EXCELLENT, much thanks.
Curt, why do you not share with us? :(
-----yttrx
Curt James
> "Curt James" writes:
> > Jason Earl wrote:
> >> "Curt James" writes:
> >> > [...]
> >> >
> >> >> But you'll never be able to suck up like Curt does. That kind of
> >> >> sycophancy takes years of rigorous training.
> >> >
> >> > What's interesting is that sycophant comes from the Latin for
> >> > informer and slanderer...
> >>
> >> Uh, no, that's actually not interesting :).
You're right, it wasn't interesting or it was as interesting as (okay,
imo) John's mention of sycophancy. I had heard the word sycophant
previously but Googled as I love words (former proofreader - most
recently in 1999 and Navy journalist - 1984 to 1988) and wanted to see
the definition as presented by any of the online dictionaries. I
thought it was ironic that Williams would mention sycophancy whZZZZZZZZ
Man, that is very boring, isn't it?
> >> I am truly sorry.
> >
> > Whither the editor!!!!!?
> >
> > "What's interesting TO ME is that..." :o)
> >
> >> Jason
> >
> > (Way to NOT suck up, J.)
Oh, dear. Those statements were made with tongue firmly in cheek
(What's the QWERTY variation of that?), Jason.
> I'm just saying. Digging up the obscure roots of words is
A dream job? Fun? Cool? Interesting? Frustrated lexicographers and
neologists unite!!!
> is about as interesting as watching paint dry... underwater.
heh :o)
That's the ONLY collateral duty I didn't have in the Navy.
> I should know, one of the mistakes I made quite often when I got
> back from South America was to comment endlessly on the roots
> of English words that had Latin roots.
I would only have encouraged you, "unfortunately."
> I'm just trying to help.
Cool. It would be no surprise that anyone would think I needed some
help. ;o)
> Besides, if I didn't interject occasionally then these threads would
> devolve into a three-way between JMW, your stalker from rab, and
> yourself, and that's hardly fun at all.
HA! Oh, you might tread carefully with statements even remotely
resembling that one, J. Did you see what Hodges got? He handled it
deftly though, imo. Still, I have refrained from what I consider the
cross-posting idiocy. Boring for most if not all. Otoh, some might be
interested in reading my reply to JMW over in RAB. Damn, that right
there? That's a form of cross-posting, isn't it? ARRRGGHH! I'm infected
with JMW's "troll-like" behavior! Aiiieeee!!!
> Jason
ON topic MFW and perhaps of special interest to you, the deadlifting
aficionado/athlete, I lifted 265 for 3 sets last night. Inital set of 6
reps, followed by 4 reps (my lifting straps safely left at home -
D'OH!), and ending with 6 reps at the encouragment and instruction of
two lifters of Pete-like dimensions.
I round-backed 315 on July 30 in an attempt to see how close I could
get to 365 that I equally round-backed a million years ago. Sloppy form
is a bad thing, of course and so I've lowered my weight and have been
paying stricter attention to keeping my butt low, back straight, and
"pushing through the floor" with my legs. I've got super long arms and
super stubby legs, so I've got deadlifter proportions from that
perspective. There's a semi-pro football player who beat the hell out
of 315 for 9 - what looked like - warm-up reps. I'm in awe of strength
like that.
My slight frame will never allow Kazmaier-like accomplishments, but I'm
continuing toward my goal of being "the biggest skinny guy" at the gym.
Kinda like a missing link between Homo woodyallensis and Homo
schwarzeneggerilis.
Hey, did you see The Abs Diet reply? And did you check that kettlebell
website link? Yikes, those things are expensive. Were me, I'd go
with... http://newyorkbarbells.com/im-0310.html no doubt.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
yttrx
>> I'll be happy to quote you from there if you like.
>
> Okay.
>
Great. Take a look downward.
> Let's see your latest fantasy or science fiction.
>
>> Would you like that?
>
> Yes, in fact, I would.
>
Awesome. Theyre coming up in this very post.
> Post "all the posts in that golden showers forum," because I 1) don't
> remember making such posts
Thats funny, because theyve been talked about since the moment you made
them by quite a few people who thought they were very telling.
> and 2) if I did make posts to ANY forum
> about "golden showers" I'm certain that they were in jest and also that
> you've misinterpreted my words as you have in the past. It is
> apparently very much your way.
Oh, I dont think so.
>
> You say, "I'll be happy to quote you from there," however I'm certain
> or at the very least would not be surprised if you would NOT be happy
> to offer the URL or contact information to/for that particular forum.
> Oh, yes, because, what was it, something like you don't want to lose
> your membership to said forum, was that it?
>
Actually, I kinda dont care anymore to be honest. So here they are:
1. "um, is poop allowed in here at all?"
2. "<3 Tiffy"
3. "Hey, check the time! Give me five minutes and then come take my most
recent poll?"
4. "My exgf peed in the shower all the time, but we never did the golden
deal. Spanking, choking, cutting, but never pissing. And I don't think I
could drink it either. Now a snowball is another matter. Weird what some
people are turned off by and turned on by. Uh, weird as in interesting."
Oh whoops, youre right Curt! There's nothing specifically in the quotes
that I pasted here that you wrote in that Golden Shower forum about
enjoying being pissed on. Evidently it was snowballing. Did you ever
find a forum about poop btw?
>> Not that this lump of yours is anything to be worried
>> about, as I see in the text that I cut. I must admit,
>> I'm a little disappointed.
>
> And there - that reaction, response, thought process - is the
> difference between you... and me. :o)
>
Another difference is that I must be pushed ridiculously far to become
even a tiny bit malicious. Malice is, on the other hand, your constant
state.
-----yttrx
Jason Earl
I figured you were joking. Heck, I always figure that everyone here
is joking when they say something that could be taken offensively.
Well, except, of course, for Schuh. He seems to really get behind his
offensiveness and go after it like he means it.
I don't recall that he's ever responded to any of my posts though. I
think that he considers me one of the "lesser" newcomers to MFW (which
is a pretty valid point, actually).
>> I'm just saying. Digging up the obscure roots of words is
>
> A dream job? Fun? Cool? Interesting? Frustrated lexicographers and
> neologists unite!!!
Language is definitely interesting to me. Learning to speak another
language really opened my eyes to how much language effects the way we
think. You and I are exceptions, I am afraid.
>> is about as interesting as watching paint dry... underwater.
>
> heh :o)
>
> That's the ONLY collateral duty I didn't have in the Navy.
I would wager that you didn't miss out much.
>> I should know, one of the mistakes I made quite often when I got
>> back from South America was to comment endlessly on the roots of
>> English words that had Latin roots.
>
> I would only have encouraged you, "unfortunately."
I use that word quite a bit, don't I?
>> I'm just trying to help.
>
> Cool. It would be no surprise that anyone would think I needed some
> help. ;o)
We all get by with a little help from our friends...
>> Besides, if I didn't interject occasionally then these threads
>> would devolve into a three-way between JMW, your stalker from rab,
>> and yourself, and that's hardly fun at all.
>
> HA! Oh, you might tread carefully with statements even remotely
> resembling that one, J. Did you see what Hodges got? He handled it
> deftly though, imo. Still, I have refrained from what I consider the
> cross-posting idiocy. Boring for most if not all. Otoh, some might
> be interested in reading my reply to JMW over in RAB. Damn, that
> right there? That's a form of cross-posting, isn't it? ARRRGGHH! I'm
> infected with JMW's "troll-like" behavior! Aiiieeee!!!
The only people that find the interplay between you and JMW
interesting are you and JMW. Once upon a time, long before I started
reading MFW something happened between the two of you that has soured
your relationship permanently. I can't imagine what it was, and you
probably can't remember, but clearly neither of you can let it go.
>> Jason
>
> ON topic MFW and perhaps of special interest to you, the deadlifting
> aficionado/athlete, I lifted 265 for 3 sets last night. Inital set
> of 6 reps, followed by 4 reps (my lifting straps safely left at home
> - D'OH!), and ending with 6 reps at the encouragment and instruction
> of two lifters of Pete-like dimensions.
I sometimes think that a little encouragement would be beneficial when
I lift. I certainly find that when my wife comes down to watch me
lift I tend to perform a little better.
On the other hand, lifting by myself takes away some of the temptation
to show off, and its way easier for me to schedule 20 minutes in my
basement than it would be to take time to go to the gym. Plus my kids
sometimes lift with me (using my old standard set).
I can't really complain. I've added 20 pounds to my 2RM in the
deadlift in less than a month.
> I round-backed 315 on July 30 in an attempt to see how close I could
> get to 365 that I equally round-backed a million years ago. Sloppy
> form is a bad thing, of course and so I've lowered my weight and
> have been paying stricter attention to keeping my butt low, back
> straight, and "pushing through the floor" with my legs. I've got
> super long arms and super stubby legs, so I've got deadlifter
> proportions from that perspective. There's a semi-pro football
> player who beat the hell out of 315 for 9 - what looked like -
> warm-up reps. I'm in awe of strength like that.
I'm built similarly. I keep telling myself that I was born to
deadlift and that I just need to get stronger. So far it seems to be
working, but I have a long way to go.
> My slight frame will never allow Kazmaier-like accomplishments, but
> I'm continuing toward my goal of being "the biggest skinny guy" at
> the gym. Kinda like a missing link between Homo woodyallensis and
> Homo schwarzeneggerilis.
I want to be so big that I have trouble getting through doors. I have
a seven year-old daughter and by the time she is 15 I want to be so
scary that the boys in her class piss themselves when they think of
me. I'm thinking of filing my teeth into points.
Ok, not really.
What I would really like to do is get strong enough so that I can
enter a local strong man competition and not feel like a dork. It's a
modest goal, but it gives me something to shoot for while I am still
clearly not strong enough to compete.
> Hey, did you see The Abs Diet reply? And did you check that
> kettlebell website link? Yikes, those things are expensive. Were me,
> I'd go with... http://newyorkbarbells.com/im-0310.html no doubt.
I responded to the "The Abs Diet" thing first. Thanks again for the
info. I am actually feeling pretty good about what I am currently
doing. Dmitri's "pulse eating" thing seems to be working fairly well
for me. I continue to slowly lose weight, and my deadlift is still
going up. I am pretty happy with the results so far. More than
anything it has been interesting to learn that I can go extended
periods without eating without adverse effects. I fast once a month
for 24 hours for religious reasons, and "fast Sunday" has typically
been the worst day of the month. Now it's nothing.
I did see the kettlebell website link, and it was definitely
interesting to me. I love my kettlebell, and I am definitely
contemplating getting another one. I thought about getting one of the
handles at newyorkbarbells.com (in fact, I thought about getting a
normal kbell there as well), but I am glad I didn't. The one real
advantage of the kbell over a dumbbell, IMHO, is the kbell snatch, and
I just feel more comfortable knowing that my kbell isn't about to come
apart and shower 10 pound plates all over the place. I think that the
kettlestack solves the problems of the other kbell handles quite
neatly, but it's fairly expensive too.
Besides, to a certain extent I got a kbell because I think that it
looks cool. I sort of wish that they would have had the Russian Red
version when I ordered:
Interestingly enough the russian reds are actually cheaper than the
black powder coated bells.
I'm a firm believer in kbell snatches and swings now, and I will also
admit that my one armed over head press has increased dramatically.
My kbell was expensive, but I believe it was a pretty good investment.
Jason
Pete
> Language is definitely interesting to me. Learning to speak another
> language really opened my eyes to how much language effects the way we
> think. You and I are exceptions, I am afraid.
Really?
----
Pete
Jason Earl
Curt James
Seeing as how Pete speaks Dutch, English, and perhaps some other
languages, I interpreted that as an exclamation more than as a
question.
You see, Jason, the word really is from the Latin for...
(ducks, runs, etc.)
> Jason
--
Curt
Pete
>>> Language is definitely interesting to me. Learning to speak
>>> another language really opened my eyes to how much language effects
>>> the way we think. You and I are exceptions, I am afraid.
>> Really?
> I am not entirely sure what you are asking.
You and Curt are exceptions when it comes to learning to speak another
language, and since this is another language for me, i replied with a
rethorical "really?"
----
Pete
Curt James
> "Jason Earl" schreef:
When he said exceptions I think he meant so far as an individual having
an interest in word origins. I don't think he was talking about
learning another language specifically.
And I'm sure there are several MFWers who speak a second language.
Why, Robert Schuh, speak Ihatespammish, if I'm not mistaken. ;o)
> Pete
(eyes you suspiciously)
IS THAT YOUR REAL NAME!!!!??
--
Curt
Jason Earl
I find that I experience a definite "shift of gears" when I
communicate in Spanish. I also find that sometimes something that is
hilarious in Spanish (or vice versa) is not funny when translated.
Perhaps it is just my imagination, or perhaps it is simply because I
learned Spanish so much later in life.
Jason
Pete
>> You and Curt are exceptions when it comes to learning to speak
>> another language, and since this is another language for me, i
>> replied with a rethorical "really?"
> I find that I experience a definite "shift of gears" when I
> communicate in Spanish. I also find that sometimes something that is
> hilarious in Spanish (or vice versa) is not funny when translated.
Because its impossible.
I have been reading English ever since i was 18 year old or so, since most
of the mags were American. I learned it was best to "just read what it
said", no translation.
BTW, we have subtitles here... man, do they fuck sometimes!
They better hire me, really, i would do a much better job.
> Perhaps it is just my imagination, or perhaps it is simply because I
> learned Spanish so much later in life.
Translating from French --> Italian --> Spanish --> Portuguese is quite
possible, i guess.
Even with Dutch --> the Syntax is SO different, that just translating fucks
everything up.
"fucked everything up"... try to translate that to Dutch ;-O
----
Pete
Jason Earl
> "Jason Earl" <je...@xmission.com> schreef:
>
>>> You and Curt are exceptions when it comes to learning to speak
>>> another language, and since this is another language for me, i
>>> replied with a rethorical "really?"
>
>> I find that I experience a definite "shift of gears" when I
>> communicate in Spanish. I also find that sometimes something that
>> is hilarious in Spanish (or vice versa) is not funny when
>> translated.
>
> Because its impossible.
>
> I have been reading English ever since i was 18 year old or so,
> since most of the mags were American. I learned it was best to "just
> read what it said", no translation.
Exactly. Once I gave up trying to translate Spanish into English and
instead started simply learning to recognize Spanish phrases and put
them together things got much easier for me.
> BTW, we have subtitles here... man, do they fuck sometimes! They
> better hire me, really, i would do a much better job.
I noticed the same thing when I watched movies in South America.
You'd think with the quadzillions of people in the world that are
bi-lingual Spanish/English speakers that they would have better
translations.
On the flip side I once bought a piece of cheap furniture "Hecho in
Chile," that had much better instructions in Spanish than in English.
Considering how important the English instructions were to sales in
the U.S. you'd think that they would have spent a little more time and
effort on them.
>> Perhaps it is just my imagination, or perhaps it is simply because
>> I learned Spanish so much later in life.
>
> Translating from French --> Italian --> Spanish --> Portuguese is
> quite possible, i guess.
>
> Even with Dutch --> the Syntax is SO different, that just
> translating fucks everything up.
>
> "fucked everything up"... try to translate that to Dutch ;-O
That's pretty much what I was getting at, I think...
I've translated between Spanish and English on any number of occasions
and I find that it's a lot more work than just speaking either English
or Spanish. Lots of things just don't translate well.
Jason
Curt James
> "Curt James" writes:
> > <snip>Those statements were made with tongue firmly in
> > cheek (What's the QWERTY variation of that?), Jason.
>
> I figured you were joking. Heck, I always figure that everyone here
> is joking when they say something that could be taken offensively.
[...]
That's a good philosophy, imo.
> Language is definitely interesting to me. Learning to speak another
> language really opened my eyes to how much language effects the
> way we think. You and I are exceptions, I am afraid.
I *think* I know what you're saying. :o)
re Cliff Claven behavior
> > I would only have encouraged you, "unfortunately."
>
> I use that word quite a bit, don't I?
I put the quotes there just to say I seriously don't think encouraging
word origin examination a negative thing. Using quote marks was my
attempt at showing sarcasm? Or that I didn't think it would be an
unfortunate thing at all. Uh...
And re Cliff Claven who had something of an interest in trivia as well
as word origins...
http://www.concentric.net/~Leetoma/humor-cliffie.htm
> We all get by with a little help from our friends...
I appreciate the help. Thanks.
> The only people that find the interplay between you and JMW
> interesting are you and JMW.
Oh, yeah?
CHARLES, WHERE ARE YOU??? HEY! TGIF!!!!!!
Instigator, thy name is Curt. :o/
No!
> Once upon a time, long before I started reading MFW something
> happened between the two of you that has soured your relationship
> permanently.
Permanently? Man, I guess I really am a Pollyanna. I'd like to think
it's not permanent. But, yeah, I also think the first thing he wrote
about me was somethingsomething "special troll" back in that Olympia
thread of 2004. Still, I replied goodnaturedly enough, imo. His
attitude never changed, unfortunately, and he became, in my eyes at
least, something of a truly colossal jerk.
Just LOOK at this:
http://www.rustyiron.net/trollist.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/curtpics.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/curtinfl.jpg
http://www.rustyiron.net/curt_rab.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/trollz.htm and the corresponding posts/threads
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/8fc6f6b8db7a673a
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/ffae5749d27416d4
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/0fb4e8673b4bc4ee
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/8bb4fd7b08ad73d8
heh
He is dedicated. I'll give him that.
And, iirc, there's a www.rustyiron.net quote.htm out there now, too.
Believe he simply copy/pasted that text from somewhere else, though.
And I'm sure if I was half as whatever John is, I could dredge up some
interesting anti-Williams quotes just as easily - even without benefit
of someone else having done the work. ;o)
> I can't imagine what it was,
Um, he's just a jerk in general, he's a controlling freak, or he was
defending (after a fashion) Queen who was, I'm just guessing, less than
thrilled to see me posting here. Maybe none of those. Maybe a
combination of all of 'em. (shrug)
> and you probably can't remember,
HA! Oh, I remember a little. ;o)
> but clearly neither of you can let it go.
Otoh, I forget a little, too. Actually, I forget a lot. Bygones be
bygones, but I don't believe that's ol' Johnny's "cup of tea" as he
made reference to earlier.
[...]
> I sometimes think that a little encouragement would be beneficial
> when I lift. I certainly find that when my wife comes down to watch
> me lift I tend to perform a little better.
Yup. I've encountered that boost as well. Spectators can definitely
muster some of that "Dang, I can't NOT lift this now!" motivation.
> On the other hand, lifting by myself takes away some of the temptation
> to show off, and its way easier for me to schedule 20 minutes in my
> basement than it would be to take time to go to the gym. Plus my kids
> sometimes lift with me (using my old standard set).
Cool.
> I can't really complain. I've added 20 pounds to my 2RM in the
> deadlift in less than a month.
Excellent.
[...]
> <snip>I keep telling myself that I was born to deadlift and that
> I just need to get stronger. So far it seems to be working, but
> I have a long way to go.
Likewise.
[...]
> I want to be so big that I have trouble getting through doors.
Ha!
I was just telling my friends at the gym that, as a teenager, I walked
around with "imaginary lats". The one guy didn't get it, but the other
guy immediately laughed and told about a player on his football team
who did the same thing, something like, "He walked around as if he had
an 80-inch lat spread all the time."
I'd love to have Ronnie Coleman dimensions or to have trouble getting
through doors but it's not in the cards. And, unlike my behavior as a
teen, I consciously walk around with my arms basically pinned to my
sides at the thought of my "gunslinger" days. ;o)
> I have a seven year-old daughter and by the time she is 15 I want to be
> so scary that the boys in her class piss themselves when they think of
> me. I'm thinking of filing my teeth into points.
LMAO!
> Ok, not really.
Awww.
My niece will be 15 in less than ten years. I'll be nearing 54 then. If
I can't bulk up to 225 by then perhaps I'll require dentures. I could
have an everyday wear set of dentures as well as a "filing my teeth
into points" set to scare off her potential suitors.
> What I would really like to do is get strong enough so that I can
> enter a local strong man competition and not feel like a dork. It's a
> modest goal, but it gives me something to shoot for while I am still
> clearly not strong enough to compete.
Great.
I want that 365 deadlift again, but this time without the rounded back.
Eventually a 405 dead, too. A strict 200 bench...
Hm. (checks journal) July 17 is when I last maxed on bench. Other than
close-grips, I normally don't do flat bench at all, but on 7/17 I did
95 x 2, 115 x 2, 135 x 2, 155 x 1, and then 165 x 1, but I wrote down
"no good, was helped" in my workout book as a guy I asked to spot me
put his hands (thankfully so) on the bar to assist. Yesterday, I did
deadlifts so today is a rest day. I was going in tonight for some
cardio, but will max on the bench again. I'm wearing my Superman shirt
so that should get me the 165 this time! ;o)
Anyway, yes, increasing strength is the name of the game.
re eating
> I am actually feeling pretty good about what I am currently doing.
> Dmitri's "pulse eating" thing seems to be working fairly well for me.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=E55C3103959D7FDBBEA79CE140AD2898.hydra?id=461078&pageNo=-1#bottom
aka http://tinyurl.com/pyoxy
I'd never heard of pulsed protein ingestion.
A HA! The interview offers, "improving protein metabolism in elderly
people" ...
(looks at calendar)
(checks driver's license)
I'm "elderly people!" This may be JUST what I need. Seriously, I'm
sticking with the 5 to 6 meals a day for now, but it's indeed an
interesting read. Glad you mentioned it.
(reads more of the t-nation article)
Do you separate your carbs and proteins, too? The interview mentions
that as well. I read that recommendation years ago as part of a "eating
for a 17-hour day" diet.
Or did I Google the wrong thing? D'OH!
> I continue to slowly lose weight, and my deadlift is still going
> up. I am pretty happy with the results so far.
That's good to hear. I've been hitting plateaus recently. BAH!
> More than anything it has been interesting to learn that I can go
> extended periods without eating without adverse effects. I fast once
> a month for 24 hours for religious reasons, and "fast Sunday" has
> typically been the worst day of the month. Now it's nothing.
I have fasted in the past, but it was a disaster for me. I lost a lot
of strength. Otoh, I've always been able to go for relatively long
periods of time without food. By that I mean eating twice a day - a
bowl of oatmeal in the a.m. and a TV dinner at night. Maybe a Coke and
something from a vending machine during the day, but I've since dropped
the TV dinners and depend on my microwave in other ways - frozen
vegetables and boneless skinless chicken breasts. That and whey shakes.
Just enjoyed a mixture of two scoops of Body Fortress whey, a teaspoon
of their glutamine, orange juice, fat-free milk, and what I'll call a
shot of liquid egg whites. I love my Oster blender. That and a few
slices of turkey. I'll do that benching at 7:30 and report back.
> I did see the kettlebell website link, and it was definitely
> interesting to me. I love my kettlebell, and I am definitely
Did you enter the sweepstakes or thing from the free KB? I did, but
added a little something to my address to track or see if they sell it.
I honestly don't care if I get some spam, e or snail mail. It was just
out of curiosity. HEAR THAT KETTLEBELL JOHN? Seriously, that was cool
that a representative or individual associated with the company posted
here rather than just dumping the link and running off. Say, where...
is... Robert... Schuh? That was a prime "Spam Bashing" opportunity.
> contemplating getting another one. I thought about getting one of the
> handles at newyorkbarbells.com (in fact, I thought about getting a
> normal kbell there as well), but I am glad I didn't. The one real
> advantage of the kbell over a dumbbell, IMHO, is the kbell snatch, and
> I just feel more comfortable knowing that my kbell isn't about to come
> apart and shower 10 pound plates all over the place.
That's funny. :o) And, yeah, I'm not a fan of those spin-on/off collars
either.
> I think that the kettlestack solves the problems of the other
> kbell handles quite neatly, but it's fairly expensive too.
>
> Besides, to a certain extent I got a kbell because I think that it
> looks cool. I sort of wish that they would have had the Russian Red
> version when I ordered:
>
> http://www.russianreds.com/
>
> Interestingly enough the russian reds are actually cheaper than the
> black powder coated bells.
I saw that. They're "$15.00 less each than our classic RKCs" according
to the site's text. They do look pretty. And Pavel Tsatsouline is one
of those names that could kick somebody's ass by itself. That name
alone could bench 225. I think I'm going to say, "I am Pavel." as I go
for my max tonight. That or "I'm Batman."
Seriously, if money were no option, I'd have his books and some bells.
Absolutely.
> I'm a firm believer in kbell snatches and swings now, and I will also
> admit that my one armed over head press has increased dramatically.
> My kbell was expensive, but I believe it was a pretty good investment.
Fantastic.
> Jason
--
Curt
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Curt James" writes:
> [...]
>
>> > <snip>Those statements were made with tongue firmly in
>> > cheek (What's the QWERTY variation of that?), Jason.
>>
>> I figured you were joking. Heck, I always figure that everyone here
>> is joking when they say something that could be taken offensively.
>
> [...]
>
> That's a good philosophy, imo.
Yeah, it works for me. Of course, if someone starts joking about
coming to my house and hurting my family it's not likely to work so
well. So far a sense of humor has been enough even for MFW.
>> Language is definitely interesting to me. Learning to speak
>> another language really opened my eyes to how much language effects
>> the way we think. You and I are exceptions, I am afraid.
>
> I *think* I know what you're saying. :o)
>
> re Cliff Claven behavior
I had to Google Cliff Claven to remember who in the heck you were
talking about. I used to love that show.
>> > I would only have encouraged you, "unfortunately."
>>
>> I use that word quite a bit, don't I?
>
> I put the quotes there just to say I seriously don't think
> encouraging word origin examination a negative thing. Using quote
> marks was my attempt at showing sarcasm? Or that I didn't think it
> would be an unfortunate thing at all. Uh...
Ah, got it.
> And re Cliff Claven who had something of an interest in trivia as
> well as word origins...
>
> http://www.concentric.net/~Leetoma/humor-cliffie.htm
A whale's penis is called a dork?
Yikes...
>> We all get by with a little help from our friends...
>
> I appreciate the help. Thanks.
>
>> The only people that find the interplay between you and JMW
>> interesting are you and JMW.
>
> Oh, yeah?
>
> CHARLES, WHERE ARE YOU??? HEY! TGIF!!!!!!
>
> Instigator, thy name is Curt. :o/
>
> No!
See what I mean about MFW regulars correcting mistakes...
>> Once upon a time, long before I started reading MFW something
>> happened between the two of you that has soured your relationship
>> permanently.
>
> Permanently? Man, I guess I really am a Pollyanna. I'd like to think
> it's not permanent. But, yeah, I also think the first thing he wrote
> about me was somethingsomething "special troll" back in that Olympia
> thread of 2004. Still, I replied goodnaturedly enough, imo. His
> attitude never changed, unfortunately, and he became, in my eyes at
> least, something of a truly colossal jerk.
>
> Just LOOK at this:
>
> http://www.rustyiron.net/trollist.htm
> http://www.rustyiron.net/curtpics.htm
> http://www.rustyiron.net/curtinfl.jpg
> http://www.rustyiron.net/curt_rab.htm
> http://www.rustyiron.net/trollz.htm and the corresponding posts/threads
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/8fc6f6b8db7a673a
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/ffae5749d27416d4
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/0fb4e8673b4bc4ee
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/8bb4fd7b08ad73d8
I've seen it. The "pull to inflate" one is pretty funny.
> heh
>
> He is dedicated. I'll give him that.
>
> And, iirc, there's a www.rustyiron.net quote.htm out there now, too.
> Believe he simply copy/pasted that text from somewhere else, though.
> And I'm sure if I was half as whatever John is, I could dredge up
> some interesting anti-Williams quotes just as easily - even without
> benefit of someone else having done the work. ;o)
I never said it was all your fault, but you can't pretend that you
don't egg him on.
>> I can't imagine what it was,
>
> Um, he's just a jerk in general, he's a controlling freak, or he was
> defending (after a fashion) Queen who was, I'm just guessing, less
> than thrilled to see me posting here. Maybe none of those. Maybe a
> combination of all of 'em. (shrug)
He does expect a certain decorum. He also isn't afraid to jump in and
chastise me when I'm baiting the moonbats. So far I've had a hard
time disagreeing with him even when I found his advice annoying. To
be honest he reminds me of about half the people I am related to, and
they're all good people. They just care enough to nudge you along on
the "right" path now and again.
>> and you probably can't remember,
>
> HA! Oh, I remember a little. ;o)
>
>> but clearly neither of you can let it go.
>
> Otoh, I forget a little, too. Actually, I forget a lot. Bygones be
> bygones, but I don't believe that's ol' Johnny's "cup of tea" as he
> made reference to earlier.
No, probably not.
>> I sometimes think that a little encouragement would be beneficial
>> when I lift. I certainly find that when my wife comes down to
>> watch me lift I tend to perform a little better.
>
> Yup. I've encountered that boost as well. Spectators can definitely
> muster some of that "Dang, I can't NOT lift this now!" motivation.
I benched 215 for 2 in my work set today. Not much, but it was a
record for me. I probably could have done another rep, but I'm
stopping short of failure. My little girl was "spotting" me, and that
was fun.
I deadlifted 300 x 5 and if things go well I will be trying for
another PR (325 x 2) at the end of next week. One of the advantages
of a Power to the People style workout is that the weights keep
creeping up on a regular basis.
>> On the other hand, lifting by myself takes away some of the
>> temptation to show off, and its way easier for me to schedule 20
>> minutes in my basement than it would be to take time to go to the
>> gym. Plus my kids sometimes lift with me (using my old standard
>> set).
>
> Cool.
>
>> I can't really complain. I've added 20 pounds to my 2RM in the
>> deadlift in less than a month.
>
> Excellent.
>
> [...]
>
>> <snip>I keep telling myself that I was born to deadlift and that I
>> just need to get stronger. So far it seems to be working, but I
>> have a long way to go.
>
> Likewise.
One of the things that I really appreciate about MFW is that there are
lots of people that are way stronger than I am. Of course, that means
that my "gym buddies" are all rude and crude, and probably imaginary,
but it seems to be working for me.
>> I want to be so big that I have trouble getting through doors.
>
> Ha!
>
> I was just telling my friends at the gym that, as a teenager, I
> walked around with "imaginary lats". The one guy didn't get it, but
> the other guy immediately laughed and told about a player on his
> football team who did the same thing, something like, "He walked
> around as if he had an 80-inch lat spread all the time."
>
> I'd love to have Ronnie Coleman dimensions or to have trouble
> getting through doors but it's not in the cards. And, unlike my
> behavior as a teen, I consciously walk around with my arms basically
> pinned to my sides at the thought of my "gunslinger" days. ;o)
I'm from a family of big people. I like to think that I have
potential.
>> I have a seven year-old daughter and by the time she is 15 I want
>> to be so scary that the boys in her class piss themselves when they
>> think of me. I'm thinking of filing my teeth into points.
>
> LMAO!
>
>> Ok, not really.
>
> Awww.
>
> My niece will be 15 in less than ten years. I'll be nearing 54
> then. If I can't bulk up to 225 by then perhaps I'll require
> dentures. I could have an everyday wear set of dentures as well as a
> "filing my teeth into points" set to scare off her potential
> suitors.
You laugh. I dated a girl whose father was a big farmer. The first
time I went to pick her up he brought me into his living room and had
a little "interview" with me. Now, I was a good kid, and he was not
overtly threatening, but the fact that he could probably tear my arms
off didn't escape me.
>> What I would really like to do is get strong enough so that I can
>> enter a local strong man competition and not feel like a dork.
>> It's a modest goal, but it gives me something to shoot for while I
>> am still clearly not strong enough to compete.
>
> Great.
>
> I want that 365 deadlift again, but this time without the rounded
> back. Eventually a 405 dead, too. A strict 200 bench...
Fah, I would take a round backed 365 deadlift at this point, as long
as it would be legal at an AAU meet :).
> Hm. (checks journal) July 17 is when I last maxed on bench. Other
> than close-grips, I normally don't do flat bench at all, but on 7/17
> I did 95 x 2, 115 x 2, 135 x 2, 155 x 1, and then 165 x 1, but I
> wrote down "no good, was helped" in my workout book as a guy I asked
> to spot me put his hands (thankfully so) on the bar to
> assist. Yesterday, I did deadlifts so today is a rest day. I was
> going in tonight for some cardio, but will max on the bench
> again. I'm wearing my Superman shirt so that should get me the 165
> this time! ;o)
>
> Anyway, yes, increasing strength is the name of the game.
>
> re eating
Good luck.
>> I am actually feeling pretty good about what I am currently doing.
>> Dmitri's "pulse eating" thing seems to be working fairly well for
>> me.
>
> aka http://tinyurl.com/pyoxy
>
> I'd never heard of pulsed protein ingestion.
>
> A HA! The interview offers, "improving protein metabolism in elderly
> people" ...
>
> (looks at calendar)
>
> (checks driver's license)
I call it "Pulse eating" because it sounds better than "Dmitri's Super
Duper Eat Once A Day Plan." When I write my fitness book I'll have to
come up with a better name. It's sort of like the Warrior Diet
without the crappy name and the lame attempts to match it up to the
Roman Legionnaire's diet. I clearly am going to have to come up with
another preliminary name, however, seeing as how it would appear that
the protein-pulse eating plan on t-nation sounds similar but is quite
different.
Basically, I got tired of keeping track of a quadzillion meals a day,
and so when Dmitri mentioned that he only eats one meal a day I
thought I would give it a try. He also mentioned some studies, and
some other sciency stuff. It seems that somehow rats were involved.
Mostly, I am just an evil mix of curious and lazy. Dmitri is clearly
intelligent, and it was equally clear that he's done quite a bit of
research, and using his plan I would only have to plan ONE MEAL A DAY.
It took a few weeks to get used to eating this way, and every once in
a while I find that I eat a little early (usually I am finding that I
eat a little late), but it seems to be working well enough, and I only
have to plan ONE MEAL A DAY.
Maybe I can call it "Lazy Nutrition."
> I'm "elderly people!" This may be JUST what I need. Seriously, I'm
> sticking with the 5 to 6 meals a day for now, but it's indeed an
> interesting read. Glad you mentioned it.
Dmitri's been mentioning it since I got here. It's just hard to tell
what he's talking about because he's so damn smart on the one hand,
and his humor is so dry on the other.
> (reads more of the t-nation article)
>
> Do you separate your carbs and proteins, too? The interview mentions
> that as well. I read that recommendation years ago as part of a
> "eating for a 17-hour day" diet.
No, that's too darn complicated. I eat ONE MEAL A DAY. I try and
start with vegetables, and then get a good protein source, and then I
just eat whatever else until I am full. I also drink some creatine,
protein, and sugar after I work out, whenever that may be. I can't
remember if I am supposed to drink it before or after, and so I am
settling for after until someone tells me different.
That's it. That's the whole plan.
I would have to work pretty hard to stretch that into an entire book.
Ori did it in "The Warrior Diet" by trying to match the plan up with
the eating habits of the Roman Legion, and some other crap, including,
if I recall correctly a whole pile of herbal witchdoctor garbage.
> Or did I Google the wrong thing? D'OH!
I think so. Although I think that Dmitri mentioned some of that same
research.
>> I continue to slowly lose weight, and my deadlift is still going
>> up. I am pretty happy with the results so far.
>
> That's good to hear. I've been hitting plateaus recently. BAH!
Power to the People, baby.
No seriously, since June 21st I have been lifting 4 or 5 days a week
concentrating on two lifts the deadlift and the bench press. I
started with the bent press because that's what Pavel actually
suggests, but I am still confused what the difference is between the
bent press and the side press, so I just went with the bench press. I
do two sets of 5 the second one 90% of the first set. Each day I add
5 pounds to the first set and when I can only get two at a given
weight, I drop back 25 to 35 pounds or so and work back up again.
So far the results have been impressive despite the fact that I am
only eating ONE MEAL A DAY.
>> More than anything it has been interesting to learn that I can go
>> extended periods without eating without adverse effects. I fast
>> once a month for 24 hours for religious reasons, and "fast Sunday"
>> has typically been the worst day of the month. Now it's nothing.
>
> I have fasted in the past, but it was a disaster for me. I lost a
> lot of strength. Otoh, I've always been able to go for relatively
> long periods of time without food. By that I mean eating twice a day
> - a bowl of oatmeal in the a.m. and a TV dinner at night. Maybe a
> Coke and something from a vending machine during the day, but I've
> since dropped the TV dinners and depend on my microwave in other
> ways - frozen vegetables and boneless skinless chicken breasts. That
> and whey shakes.
Before I tried this I was constantly thinking about my next meal. My
wife still can't believe it.
> Just enjoyed a mixture of two scoops of Body Fortress whey, a
> teaspoon of their glutamine, orange juice, fat-free milk, and what
> I'll call a shot of liquid egg whites. I love my Oster blender. That
> and a few slices of turkey. I'll do that benching at 7:30 and report
> back.
I love the Body Fortress Whey.
>> I did see the kettlebell website link, and it was definitely
>> interesting to me. I love my kettlebell, and I am definitely
>
> Did you enter the sweepstakes or thing from the free KB? I did, but
> added a little something to my address to track or see if they sell
> it. I honestly don't care if I get some spam, e or snail mail. It
> was just out of curiosity. HEAR THAT KETTLEBELL JOHN? Seriously,
> that was cool that a representative or individual associated with
> the company posted here rather than just dumping the link and
> running off. Say, where... is... Robert... Schuh? That was a prime
> "Spam Bashing" opportunity.
I don't consider it spam when someone sends me an offer that I am
actually interested in.
I just got tired of hearing how cool kbells were from all sorts of
people, and so I finally simply manned up and got one. I like it. I
show it off to all my friends.
>> contemplating getting another one. I thought about getting one of
>> the handles at newyorkbarbells.com (in fact, I thought about
>> getting a normal kbell there as well), but I am glad I didn't. The
>> one real advantage of the kbell over a dumbbell, IMHO, is the kbell
>> snatch, and I just feel more comfortable knowing that my kbell
>> isn't about to come apart and shower 10 pound plates all over the
>> place.
>
> That's funny. :o) And, yeah, I'm not a fan of those spin-on/off
> collars either.
I have enough troubles with my spin on dumbell collars.
newyorkbarbells.com has another handle where the bar that holds the
plates is parallel to the ground. That seems safer, but it also
guarantees that there is no plates in the middle of the bell. I don't
know how you would catch the thing when doing snatches.
Hopefully kbells will become popular enough that sporting goods stores
will stock them. That should help bring down the costs.
>> I think that the kettlestack solves the problems of the other kbell
>> handles quite neatly, but it's fairly expensive too.
>>
>> Besides, to a certain extent I got a kbell because I think that it
>> looks cool. I sort of wish that they would have had the Russian
>> Red version when I ordered:
>>
>> http://www.russianreds.com/
>>
>> Interestingly enough the russian reds are actually cheaper than the
>> black powder coated bells.
>
> I saw that. They're "$15.00 less each than our classic RKCs"
> according to the site's text. They do look pretty. And Pavel
> Tsatsouline is one of those names that could kick somebody's ass by
> itself. That name alone could bench 225. I think I'm going to say,
> "I am Pavel." as I go for my max tonight. That or "I'm Batman."
Pavel does sound pretty bad to the bone.
> Seriously, if money were no option, I'd have his books and some
> bells. Absolutely.
Pavel's books are expensive. I've borrowed a few and I own one. I
will probably end up purchasing "Power to the People" even though the
whole book can be summarized in one short article. Heck, I summarized
most of it in one paragraph.
It's a pretty interesting read.
>> I'm a firm believer in kbell snatches and swings now, and I will also
>> admit that my one armed over head press has increased dramatically.
>> My kbell was expensive, but I believe it was a pretty good investment.
>
> Fantastic.
Good luck,
Jason
JMW
Thank you. I must admit that I thought that one, while rather simple
in the execution, was pretty clever in the concept.
>> heh
>>
>> He is dedicated. I'll give him that.
>>
>> And, iirc, there's a www.rustyiron.net quote.htm out there now, too.
>> Believe he simply copy/pasted that text from somewhere else, though.
>> And I'm sure if I was half as whatever John is, I could dredge up
>> some interesting anti-Williams quotes just as easily - even without
>> benefit of someone else having done the work. ;o)
>
>I never said it was all your fault, but you can't pretend that you
>don't egg him on.
And it's often counterproductive. For instance, posting all those
links was apparently intended to vilefy me and provide him with some
self-justification. Instead, it seems to have spawned a new thread in
another newsgroup:
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl <je...@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>>"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> writes:
<snip long conversation>
>>I've seen it. The "pull to inflate" one is pretty funny.
>
> Thank you. I must admit that I thought that one, while rather
> simple in the execution, was pretty clever in the concept.
It was hilarious. Especially considering that it was aimed at MFW.
We all want bigger pecs, right?
<snip>
>>I never said it was all your fault, but you can't pretend that you
>>don't egg him on.
>
> And it's often counterproductive. For instance, posting all those
> links was apparently intended to vilefy me and provide him with some
> self-justification. Instead, it seems to have spawned a new thread
> in another newsgroup:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/qrvq5
Curt sort of has a point with the links. You have quite a bit of
information on your website that revolves around him. That's somewhat
odd. I'm just saying...
I also wouldn't want to associate myself too closely with yttrx (or
whatever). Seriously, what sort of person follows Curt to MFW from
RAB?
The whole thing is quite surreal.
Jason
JMW
>JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> writes:
>
>> Jason Earl <je...@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> writes:
>
><snip long conversation>
>
>>>I've seen it. The "pull to inflate" one is pretty funny.
>>
>> Thank you. I must admit that I thought that one, while rather
>> simple in the execution, was pretty clever in the concept.
>
>It was hilarious. Especially considering that it was aimed at MFW.
>We all want bigger pecs, right?
>
><snip>
>
>>>I never said it was all your fault, but you can't pretend that you
>>>don't egg him on.
>>
>> And it's often counterproductive. For instance, posting all those
>> links was apparently intended to vilefy me and provide him with some
>> self-justification. Instead, it seems to have spawned a new thread
>> in another newsgroup:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/qrvq5
>
>Curt sort of has a point with the links. You have quite a bit of
>information on your website that revolves around him. That's somewhat
>odd. I'm just saying...
Let's analyze what's there:
"... quite a bit of information ..." Information? There's no more
"information" related to him than there is to several others. The
purpose of posting that information is absolutely clear from the
context.
Don't confuse "information" with "artwork." I love doing comic
artwork ... I always have. Am I'm fairly good at doing some basic
stuff with my free graphics software (i.e., not PhotoShop, which I
have no intention of buying). But if you're going to work with photo
manipulation, you need something to work with. Given his "unique"
basic appearance, his propensity for piercings, and his general
photographics exhibitionism, Curt is like a blank canvas for comic
artwork. I do a lot of that stuff simply because it makes me laugh.
I hope a few others get a laugh, too.
>I also wouldn't want to associate myself too closely with yttrx (or
>whatever). Seriously, what sort of person follows Curt to MFW from
>RAB?
There's a point to be made here, Jason. If you don't understand the
concept, ask yourself this: why are sex offenders required to
register?
Curt James
> "Curt James" writes:
> > Jason Earl wrote:
> >> "Curt James" writes:
[...]
> >> joking when they say something that could be taken
> >> offensively.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > That's a good philosophy, imo.
>
> Yeah, it works for me. Of course, if someone starts joking about
> coming to my house and hurting my family it's not likely to work so
> well. So far a sense of humor has been enough even for MFW.
> >> The only people that find the interplay between you and JMW
> >> interesting are you and JMW.
> >
> > Oh, yeah?
> >
> > CHARLES, WHERE ARE YOU??? HEY! TGIF!!!!!!
> >
> > Instigator, thy name is Curt. :o/
> >
> > No!
>
> See what I mean about MFW regulars correcting mistakes...
I saw that comment and laughed out loud. MFW beats Google, eh? :o)
[...]
> > http://www.rustyiron.net/curtinfl.jpg
[...]
> I've seen it. The "pull to inflate" one is pretty funny.
True.
> > heh
> >
> > He is dedicated. I'll give him that.
[...]
> I never said it was all your fault, but you can't pretend
> that you don't egg him on.
Well, uh, er...
Eggs are a good source of protein?
[...]
> He does expect a certain decorum. He also isn't afraid to
> jump in and chastise me when I'm baiting the moonbats.
Barking moonbats! God, that just rolls off a man's tongue. It's his
best piece of writing, imo, although, yeah, he didn't coin the name I
give him credit for being the one to introduce me to the term. Classic.
Near perfection, I'd say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat
http://www.barking-moonbat.com/
> So far I've had a hard time disagreeing with him even when I found
> his advice annoying. To be honest he reminds me of about half
> the people I am related to, and they're all good people. They just
> care enough to nudge you along on the "right" path now and again.
Oh, that's just great. How can I pick at JMW now without in some way
feeling disparaging to your family. :o/ SALT OF THE EARTH HE IS!!!!
(reaches for orange highlighter)
(circles Jason Earl three times on Those Most Hated list)
[...]
> I benched 215 for 2 in my work set today. Not much,
It'd make me cry. Tears of joy, of course.
> but it was a record for me.
Congratulations!
> I probably could have done another rep, but I'm stopping
> short of failure. My little girl was "spotting" me, and that
> was fun.
Excellent. These are memories I'm guessing she'll cherish.
> I deadlifted 300 x 5 and if things go well I will be trying for another
> PR (325 x 2) at the end of next week. One of the advantages
> of a Power to the People style workout is that the weights keep
> creeping up on a regular basis.
Best of luck with the new PR attempt. My flat bench tonight was
something of a PR. I started with 95 x 5, 135 x 1, and then 165 x 1.
Last month I failed at 165 and so this time I thought I'd try 160 lbs.
Well, I'd miscounted the plates. Duh. And the 165 went up with me
thinking it was the 160.
Tried 175 with a lift-off and a spot. Asked my friend not to touch the
bar unless it landed on my neck. I failed. Did another set, this time
with 170 lbs. and it went up easily, asked for a forced rep, too.
Finished with a set of 135 x 7.
> One of the things that I really appreciate about MFW is that there are
> lots of people that are way stronger than I am. Of course, that means
> that my "gym buddies" are all rude and crude, and probably imaginary,
> but it seems to be working for me.
Camaraderie is a good thing whether it's virtual or... local. In fact,
one of the things I've always enjoyed about newsgroups is that virtual
can become local. I spent the first weekend of this month in Geneva on
the Lake, Ohio camping with friends from another newsgroup. Great fun.
[...]
> I'm from a family of big people. I like to think that I have
> potential.
My family's a mixed bag. Some six-footers and other five-footers. I'm
lucky to have reached 6'1". Genetics, God, regardless, I'm happy to be
this height and so I'll call it lucky in that regard.
[...]
> <snip>I dated a girl whose father was a big farmer. The first time
> I went to pick her up he brought me into his living room and had
> a little "interview" with me. Now, I was a good kid, and he was not
> overtly threatening, but the fact that he could probably tear my arms
> off didn't escape me.
heh
A friend used to "joke" about having a backhoe and several acres to
hide bodies.
[...]
> > I want that 365 deadlift again, but this time without the rounded
> > back. Eventually a 405 dead, too. A strict 200 bench...
>
> Fah, I would take a round backed 365 deadlift at this point, as long
> as it would be legal at an AAU meet :).
Badaboom! Well, at 305 for 5, I'd say you're well on your way. If a
skinny kid like me can hit 365 (although a lifetime ago) then you can,
too.
[...]
> I call it "Pulse eating" because it sounds better than "Dmitri's Super
> Duper Eat Once A Day Plan." When I write my fitness book I'll have to
> come up with a better name.
Make it available as an eBook and you've got yourself a customer.
> It's sort of like the Warrior Diet without the crappy name and the
> lame attempts to match it up to the Roman Legionnaire's diet.
I remember reading about the Legionnaire's dispute.
> I clearly am going to have to come up with another preliminary
> name, however, seeing as how it would appear that the protein-
> pulse eating plan on t-nation sounds similar but is quite different.
> Basically, I got tired of keeping track of a quadzillion meals a day,
> and so when Dmitri mentioned that he only eats one meal a day I
> thought I would give it a try. He also mentioned some studies, and
> some other sciency stuff. It seems that somehow rats were involved.
> Mostly, I am just an evil mix of curious and lazy. Dmitri is clearly
> intelligent, and it was equally clear that he's done quite a bit of
> research, and using his plan I would only have to plan
Six meals a day? Five? Four? Eighteen, no, 3, 2...
Say it ain't so!
> ONE MEAL A DAY.
!!!!
> It took a few weeks to get used to eating this way, and every once
> in a while I find that I eat a little early (usually I am finding that I
> eat a little late), but it seems to be working well enough, and I
> only have to plan ONE MEAL A DAY.
>
> Maybe I can call it "Lazy Nutrition."
[...]
Great stuff.
> Dmitri's been mentioning it since I got here. It's just hard to tell
> what he's talking about because he's so damn smart on the one
> hand, and his humor is so dry on the other.
Whatever, super intelligent, great sense of humor, let's talk about
that chinning insanity. And I hear tell of muscle-ups as well. Just
typing that makes my shoulders hurt.
re separating carbs and protein
> No, that's too darn complicated. I eat ONE MEAL A DAY. I try and
> start with vegetables, and then get a good protein source, and then I
> just eat whatever else until I am full. I also drink some creatine,
> protein, and sugar after I work out, whenever that may be. I can't
> remember if I am supposed to drink it before or after, and so I am
> settling for after until someone tells me different.
Here's where my knowledge of JMW's creatine philosophy serves me well,
Jason Earl. HA!
...
Oh, heck. Well, at least I can Google. All the words may escape me, but
the search string of "jmw, creatine, during the workout" sprung to mind
easily enough.
"Creatine will work better with an insulin spike.
Don't waste you money buying expensive amino acid mixtures. Use a
reasonable cheap whey protein, preferably a mixture of whey concentrate
and whey isolate. It breaks down very quickly in the gut, and you get
the same amino acids in greater quantity -- and at a lesser price --
with maybe a half hour delay.
Mix a 12-ounce fruit drink (pick your flavor), with two scoops of
vanilla whey and a rounded teaspoon of creatine monohydrate, then
consume it during your workout. Forego simple sugars except for times
immediately before, during, and immediately after workouts. Amino
acids in combination with an insulin spike from simple sugars during
and after heavy resistance training substantially improves muscle
protein synthesis; controlled studies have repeatedly shown that.
/jmw
But, yes, I drink mine after my workout, too. If I drink it. I'm
faithful with the whey, and usually take the glutamine, but I normally
forget the creatine. It's the Body Fortress drink mix and not just the
creatine alone. As soon as I finish this tub of drink mix, I'll be
buying the creatine monohydrate solo.
> That's it. That's the whole plan.
Again, glad it's working for you.
> I would have to work pretty hard to stretch that into an entire book.
Hey, if you do, you already know what you should title it!
ONE MEAL A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
> Ori did it in "The Warrior Diet" by trying to match the plan up with
> the eating habits of the Roman Legion, and some other crap, including,
> if I recall correctly a whole pile of herbal witchdoctor garbage.
Otoh, HERBAL WITCHDOCTOR GARBAGE might find a niche market, too.
[...]
> > That's good to hear. I've been hitting plateaus recently. BAH!
>
> Power to the People, baby.
Pavel Rules! :o)
> No seriously, since June 21st I have been lifting 4 or 5 days a week
> concentrating on two lifts the deadlift and the bench press. I
> started with the bent press because that's what Pavel actually
> suggests, but I am still confused what the difference is between the
> bent press and the side press, so I just went with the bench press. I
> do two sets of 5 the second one 90% of the first set. Each day I add
> 5 pounds to the first set and when I can only get two at a given
> weight, I drop back 25 to 35 pounds or so and work back up again.
That's an interesting workout. I'm on a four-day split, but will be
switching to a three-day split when school starts. Tuesday, Thursday,
Saturday is the plan.
> So far the results have been impressive despite the fact that I am
> only eating ONE MEAL A DAY.
Yup. That definitely sounds like a snappy eBook title.
[...]
> Before I tried this I was constantly thinking about my next meal.
> My wife still can't believe it.
And you don't get hungry? Are you eating the same grams of protein only
at in serving?
> > Just enjoyed a mixture of two scoops of Body Fortress whey, a
> > teaspoon of their glutamine, orange juice, fat-free milk, and what
> > I'll call a shot of liquid egg whites. I love my Oster blender. That
> > and a few slices of turkey. I'll do that benching at 7:30 and report
> > back.
>
> I love the Body Fortress Whey.
Yeah, and it's inexpensive. About ten bucks for a two-pound container.
(checks cupboard)
$11.39 at Target. I saved the receipt for some odd reason.
[...]
> I just got tired of hearing how cool kbells were from all sorts of
> people, and so I finally simply manned up and got one. I like it. I
> show it off to all my friends.
[...]
> I have enough troubles with my spin on dumbell collars.
> newyorkbarbells.com has another handle where the bar that holds
> the plates is parallel to the ground. That seems safer, but it also
> guarantees that there is no plates in the middle of the bell. I don't
> know how you would catch the thing when doing snatches.
>
> Hopefully kbells will become popular enough that sporting goods
> stores will stock them. That should help bring down the costs.
I have a few sets of hex dumbbells, so I guess that's no less practical
to purchase set-weight kettlebells. Naturally, less expensive is a good
thing, though.
[...]
> > <snip> And Pavel Tsatsouline is one of those names that
> > could kick somebody's ass by itself. That name alone could
> > bench 225. I think I'm going to say, "I am Pavel." as I go for
> > my max tonight. That or "I'm Batman."
>
> Pavel does sound pretty bad to the bone.
Yeeeahhhh.
[...]
> Pavel's books are expensive. I've borrowed a few and I
> own one. I will probably end up purchasing "Power to the
> People" even though the whole book can be summarized in
> one short article. Heck, I summarized most of it in one paragraph.
>
> It's a pretty interesting read.
Where's the fitness library in this joint?
[...]
> Jason
--
Curt
Curt James
[...]
re http://www.rustyiron.net/curtinfl.jpg and the humor that can be
found therein
> Thank you. I must admit that I thought that one, while rather
> simple in the execution, was pretty clever in the concept.
Nothing like tooting your own horn, eh?
[...]
> <snip> posting all those links was apparently intended to
> vilefy me and provide him with some self-justification.
Posting all those links was intended to show the depth of your...
interest in me. They were posted to show the extent to which you have
paid attention to my presence in this newsgroup. They will be posted
again, probably, any time YOU call ME a stalker. There's a laugh.
You make mistakes. You vilify yourself. You overlook or are unaware of
your own ignorance.
> Instead, it seems to have spawned a new thread in another
> newsgroup:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/qrvq5
And you're a pawn there.
Here's my perspective, John. You're an angry man who enjoys feeling in
control. Ultimately that perceived control is an illusion.
--
Curt
Curt James
[...]
> <snip> Given his "unique" basic appearance,
Not sure a shaved head and goatee can be called unique any longer. And
it's been said that we favor each other. With that in mind
"unfortunate" might be more accurate than "unique" wrt my appearance.
heh
[...]
> There's a point to be made here, Jason. If you don't understand
> the concept, ask yourself this: why are sex offenders required
> to register?
How would you apply that statement to me, John?
Regardless, and as I said previously, you're a pawn here. And you're
apparently too stupid to realize it.
--
Curt
Charles
wrote:
It is the old adage manifest Jason: "The enemy of my enemy is my
friend."
("Birds of a feather..." also springs to mind!)
Have a great weekend my friend - you know I intend to! ;o)
Charles
wrote:
[...]
>
>Oh, yeah?
>
>CHARLES, WHERE ARE YOU??? HEY! TGIF!!!!!!
>
I am returned to the fray old chap; how the fuck are you? ;o)
<gratuitous advice (often unwelcome) to Curt>
1. Don't be defensive.
2. Don't let the opposition control the agenda.
3. Use your delightful sense of humour to deflate the unGodly.
4. Remember, Google is your friend; if the 'enemy' is an habitual
shit, there *will* be ample evidence of past indiscretions in the
archives.
4. If all else fails, tell "them" to kindly fuck off!
</gratuitous advice (often unwelcome) to Curt>
Have a great weekend old chap - you know I will! ;o)
Curt James
[...]
> It is the old adage manifest <snip>: "The enemy of
> my enemy is my friend."
>
> ("Birds of a feather..." also springs to mind!)
Agreed. :o)
> Have a great weekend my friend - you know I intend
> to! ;o)
Always!
My admiration for you is unrelated to John Williams, however, and
instead originated with our mutual acquaintance, that "brittle bitch"
who shall remain nameless.
It is, in fact, a tiny bit frustrating to recognize a total ass for
what they are while everyone around seems to not notice. Refreshing to
see someone tip their hat and wink an eye as if to say, "Yes, mate,
she's quite the fucking loon."
Emmy is, of couse, another story entirely.
No matter, HAGW!
--
Curt
Curt James
> "Curt James" wrote:
[...]
> >CHARLES, WHERE ARE YOU??? HEY! TGIF!!!!!!
>
> I am returned to the fray old chap; how the fuck are you? ;o)
HAHA! Excellent! Welcome back. I'm well, thanks.
> <gratuitous advice (often unwelcome) to Curt>
Well-taken advice, I'm certain. Thank you.
> 1. Don't be defensive.
>
> 2. Don't let the opposition control the agenda.
>
> 3. Use your delightful sense of humour to deflate the unGodly.
>
> 4. Remember, Google is your friend; if the 'enemy' is an habitual
> shit, there *will* be ample evidence of past indiscretions in the
> archives.
>
> 4. If all else fails, tell "them" to kindly fuck off!
>
> </gratuitous advice (often unwelcome) to Curt>
>
> Have a great weekend old chap - you know I will! ;o)
I'll save that in a file on my desktop straight away. :o) Wishing you a
great weekend as well.
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> Don't confuse "information" with "artwork." I love doing comic
> artwork ... I always have. Am I'm fairly good at doing some basic
> stuff with my free graphics software (i.e., not PhotoShop, which I
> have no intention of buying). But if you're going to work with photo
> manipulation, you need something to work with. Given his "unique"
> basic appearance, his propensity for piercings, and his general
> photographics exhibitionism, Curt is like a blank canvas for comic
> artwork. I do a lot of that stuff simply because it makes me laugh.
> I hope a few others get a laugh, too.
John,
Have you considered signing on to alt.binaries.comp-graphics?
There is a "weekly challenge" that is often a lot of fun, and excellent
practice. One list member posts a set of images each week (bruin
maintains the schedule of volunteers) and then everyone "changes" them.
You have a choice of combining all images, or as few or as many as you
want.
Here was my results from last week's challenge:
http://tinypic.com/24zcahj.jpg
The 5 original images are inside of the 5 spheres.
I think some of the other list members did a lot better. ;-)
It's fascinating to see how many interpretations can be made from each
image set. There is an archive of them also maintained by one list
member.
I use Photoshop CS with a couple of additional sets of aftermarket
special effects filters.
--
Peace!
Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
Larry Hodges
news:ompomelet-04800...@news.giganews.com...
I have PhotoShop CS, and I'm not impressed. I've tried to adjust to it and
"catch the passion" for PhotoShop, but it's just not user friendly. Have
you tried CorelDraw? I DLed the trial for it, but didn't really have a
chance to use it much before it expired. But...it did seem more intuitive.
And it's all vector graphics based, not bitmap. I realize Illustrator is
vector, but nobody really uses that, and still does all their work in
PhotoShop.
For those not up on graphics, vector graphics stores the image
mathematically. So, you can resize an image very small, then resize it up
to a large size and not lose any quality. With an image done in PhotoShop,
if you save an image in a low resolution, you're screwed if you decide you
want a higher resolution.
-Larry
JMW
Curt James wrote:
> JMW wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > There's a point to be made here, Jason. If you don't understand
> > the concept, ask yourself this: why are sex offenders required
> > to register?
>
> How would you apply that statement to me, John?
I'm glad you asked, Curt. Convicted sex offenders tend to wash away
stigma by moving away from their old surroundings. Unfortunately, they
retain their personality characteristics. Requiring registration in
the new town informs the residents of the risk.
A similar phenomenon occurs on Usenet. Sometimes, a person becomes a
real arsehole in a certain newsgroup. After a while, none of the
regulars in that newsgroup can stand that person, and he is
consistently insulted or ignored by nearly everyone but the occasional
newbie who wanders in. So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an
unknown. Unfortunately, those people retain their personality
characteristics, and gradually, the same thing happens all over again.
Often, the person will defend himself by exclaiming, "I am a courteous,
friendly, and knowledgeable person, and there would have been no
problem if the regulars in this newsgroup had not mistreated me!" It
is then that the person's earlier history in another newsgroup can be
revealing as to his real personalities traits. You see, history has a
habit of repeating itself.
> Regardless, and as I said previously, you're a pawn here. And you're
> apparently too stupid to realize it.
Quite the opposite, dear Curt. I have been waiting quite a while for
the RAB gang to confirm what I have been saying all along.
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
> > JMW wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
And I recognized your point immediately, in my opinion. Your point was
to be inflammatory, John. As always, you're candycoating it or you're
wrapping it in a blanket of "for the greater good of the newsgroup."
What you're accomplishing, however, is no more than a self-serving
attempt at controlling another poster's behavior or presence in what
you seem to consider your domain.
You're a wannabe bully and behave as such.
> > > If you don't understand the concept,
Dismissive, rude, condescending, and truly something of a colossal
jerk. I should change that characterization, however, as you're much
more a pitiful and sad annoyance.
> > > ask yourself this: why are sex offenders required
> > > to register?
Did someone say you're a lawyer?
I guess you're accustom to being assigned parallels that hold no truth.
Sad fact of life, isn't it?
> > How would you apply that statement to me, John?
>
> I'm glad you asked, Curt.
Of course you are. Misguided by obviously glad.
> Convicted sex offenders tend to wash away stigma by
> moving away from their old surroundings.
Immediately, your parallel is shown to be false as I've maintained my
presence in RAB for more than eight years. You may want to check your
facts there. Let me help:
http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/RABstats.html
Those stats go back to December 2004, however Google archives would
offer posts going back years before that. Adversarial is the climate in
general in RAB and I have not shied away from that, however it's no
surprise that you would fail to quote any positive statements you could
find in RAB's archives wrt yours truly. No surprise at all, John.
Likewise, I've participated in RMH for an equal number of years. But
you know about RMH because your attempt at inflammatory cross-posting
to THAT newsgroup was met by an icy wall of silence, wasn't it?
The dynamics are notably different in each of these newsgroups, however
the fact remains that I have not moved away from "old surroundings" at
all. Oh, perhaps you're applying that with MFW as new surroundings.
Does this mean that I cannot add to my circle of newsgroups? ACS is
another ng where I have infrequently visited. Does that merit such a
parallel comment? No, not in my opinion and, I suspect, not in the
opinion of anyone with the common sense to see beyond their own nose.
Yes, it would be easy to interpret my reaction toward you as egging you
on, however I prefer to look at it as simply not buying what you're
selling. The "I'm The Monitor Here." John Williams bonus package.
Sorry, no sale.
> Unfortunately, they retain their personality characteristics.
And, sadly, so have you. Isn't there an operation for what you've got,
John?
> Requiring registration in the new town informs the
> residents of the risk.
Again, your attempted parallel is ridiculous. The risk the MFW
residents run is of being bored to death by our constant bickering. Who
will take action on that risk first? Well?
> A similar phenomenon occurs on Usenet. Sometimes,
> a person becomes a real arsehole in a certain newsgroup.
AIN'T THAT THA TRUTH????!!!! :o)
> After a while, none of the regulars in that newsgroup can
> stand that person, and he is consistently insulted or ignored
> by nearly everyone but the occasional newbie who wanders in.
Again, adversarial is the nature of RAB as your little speech does not
apply to me at all wrt RMH. So with RAB in mind, I'll try to explain a
few things to you, John.
I can see why some would be annoyed by my presence in RAB. I just won't
go away. GRRRR! RAB did have a lot of patrons and many of those faces
are now gone. Those few that remain of that old group typically whine
and cry about me. And that's ALL that they do. Weird. Strike any
nerves, John?
Well, there is one who appears now and again and makes no comment re
yours truly. The smartest one of that particular bunch some would say.
Nevertheless, I've encouraged my vocal detractors to "rebuild" RAB as
they see fit, but apparently they'd much rather spend their energies on
making rude comments about me. Going so far as to following me around.
HA! Productive? I'd say no. (And, yes, I recognize the pot-kettle-black
insanity of even replying to your posts, John.)
You may get the illusion that everyone hates me on RAB. There is the
thread after all. :o) However this is not the case. I write a lot. I'm
in the minority on that count so far as RAB is concerned. Review the
stats at the link above if you doubt me, John. Some others have the
inability to ignore the fact that I write a lot. Hey, now that should
ring a bell or two with you, Johnny! And so they piss and moan and,
yes, act like what you might describe as an "arsehole."
Regardless, I'll tell you what I've told them: Please don't blame your
disappointment, seeming misery and dissatisfaction on me.
John, speak with your friends, interact with anyone you please, enjoy
your artwork. I have. True. Despite what you may believe you're
achieving by using my image as a canvas of sorts, you've provided me
with more than one laugh. Often, however, that laugh is at the thought
of your more than likely wrinkled up face as you work on the creation.
heh
With RAB, as with you, I almost have to believe that new blood has some
of the old guard concerned. It's not about me. It's about change. And
that, John Williams, is something no one can stop.
Hth.
> So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an unknown.
HA! I'm no gun person, at least not since I earned that marksman ribbon
in the Navy, but shooting holes in your argument is, I suspect, like
shooting fish in a barrel.
The Queen of Cans and Jars ring any additional bells, John? Hmmm.
"So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an unknown." Is that what
you wrote?
I don't think so. And, I was visiting only to ask who won the Olympia,
Cutler or Coleman. I'm sure you remember that thread. You, like mica,
opened your yaps in a - what I'd call - confrontational or at least
less than inviting manner.
If anyone is to blame for my presence here, well, firstly it's me. As I
choose to stay. I like it here, but I will not shy from attempted abuse
and - more importantly - I love weights and improving my body, my
strength, my health. Also, I have enjoyed the virtual camaraderie I've
found in this newsgroup. You don't like that? Sucks to be you. Use the
kill file you encouraged everyone else to use on the likes of TBR.
You encouraged TBR's presence as much as anything going on his TBR's
brain, I strongly suspect. And, yes, I will say that your sniping has
encouraged me to respond in kind on more than one occasion. Plus,
again, I will thank you for your negative attitude's impact on my
weight training. Physically, I was much weaker when I made that post in
2004 than I am now. This is in part because of the motivation I gained
from choosing to listen to you whine about trolls and blablablah, on
and on. I thought, how can I participate here without actually lifting?
And so I rededicated my lifting efforts partially in response to your
whiiiiiining annoyance.
We're a matched set in that regard though, aren't we? You match me
drivel for drivel. Or you try.
You're leaps and bounds ahead of me on the jpeg/gif front as well as
web pages devoted to me, however. What's that say about you? Do seeming
STALKERS have to register anywhere?
> Unfortunately, those people retain their personality
> characteristics, and gradually, the same thing happens
> all over again.
Hmmm. Let me ask you... any parallels to the "me and you" interaction
and any other interactions you've shared in this newsgroup? Huh, John?
Does "gradually, the same thing happens all over again" apply to you
with anyone else?
A little help here! Never mind. I already know the answer.
Colossal jerk? I was wrong.
Pitiful. Sad. Bitter. :o( Unfortunately, those words more accurately
describe you, John Williams.
> Often, the person will defend himself by exclaiming, "I am a courteous,
> friendly, and knowledgeable person, and there would have been no
> problem if the regulars in this newsgroup had not mistreated me!" It
> is then that the person's earlier history in another newsgroup can be
> revealing as to his real personalities traits.
Have I made such statements? I think I've commented on the
pot-kettle-blackness of it all more than once. You love Google archives
as much as I do, apparently, so why don't you take a peek there? And I
have "mistreated" you as much as you've attempted to mistreat me, imo.
Yes, I'd say I've at the very least given as good as I've got. (What
was that I said about tooting your own horn? Guilty!)
> You see, history has a habit of repeating itself.
True. And yet some people apparently never learn, do they?
> > Regardless, and as I said previously, you're a pawn here.
> > And you're apparently too stupid to realize it.
>
> Quite the opposite, dear Curt. I have been waiting quite a while
> for the RAB gang to confirm what I have been saying all along.
So you say. But I believe you lie.
You attempted the same thing with the RMH patrons, but that didn't work
out as planned, did it? So, like an unsuccessful door-to-door salesman,
you packed up your junk and peddled it elsewhere. You found your
customer, I'll give you that. But that certainly doesn't prove your
parallel at all. In fact, it makes it all the more ridiculous.
I believe you're acting like a fool, John. And I wouldn't be surprised
if that opinion is shared by others. Might want to check on that, too.
Or not. Hey, it's your reputation.
And for any who may've skipped to the bottom and prefer humor to
bickering:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/d/door-to-door_salesmen.asp
--
Curt
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Curt James" writes:
>> > Jason Earl wrote:
>> >> "Curt James" writes:
<snip>
>> See what I mean about MFW regulars correcting mistakes...
>
> I saw that comment and laughed out loud. MFW beats Google, eh? :o)
Google is good, but it scores all inbound links the same (mostly).
This means that Richard Simmons' ideas about fitness have as much
validity as Dave Tate's. Heck, if an idea is popular Google ranks it
high even if it is a stupid idea.
For my money I would much rather have a "discussion" with a group of
knowledgeable and experience people. Especially if you are willing to
take the time and learn a little about the various posters.
There's lots of folks here that know more about strength training than
I do, and I have been called on any number of "facts" that turned out
to only be misconceptions I had picked up somewhere.
Basically, the idea is to simply talk like you know what you are
saying until you gain enough knowledge and experience that you
actually do know what you are saying.
<snip some stuff about JMW>
>> So far I've had a hard time disagreeing with him even when I found
>> his advice annoying. To be honest he reminds me of about half the
>> people I am related to, and they're all good people. They just
>> care enough to nudge you along on the "right" path now and again.
>
> Oh, that's just great. How can I pick at JMW now without in some way
> feeling disparaging to your family. :o/ SALT OF THE EARTH HE IS!!!!
>
> (reaches for orange highlighter)
>
> (circles Jason Earl three times on Those Most Hated list)
It's about time. I was afraid that I was *never* going to make your
list.
>> I benched 215 for 2 in my work set today. Not much,
>
> It'd make me cry. Tears of joy, of course.
I'm pretty impressed. Two weeks ago my previous best double was 200.
>> but it was a record for me.
>
> Congratulations!
It's a step in the right direction anyway.
>> I probably could have done another rep, but I'm stopping short of
>> failure. My little girl was "spotting" me, and that was fun.
>
> Excellent. These are memories I'm guessing she'll cherish.
I hope so. Either way I am having a good time. The best part is that
my two oldest *guarantee* that I don't miss my workouts. My oldest
girl even seems to like the hardest workouts the best. I have some
pictures that we took of the kids and I cleaning and front pressing
stuff out on our front lawn and then sprinting down the block and
back. We did this twice, and it was brutal. I could be done with
that for life, but my girl keeps asking when we are going to do it
again.
>> I deadlifted 300 x 5 and if things go well I will be trying for
>> another PR (325 x 2) at the end of next week. One of the
>> advantages of a Power to the People style workout is that the
>> weights keep creeping up on a regular basis.
>
> Best of luck with the new PR attempt. My flat bench tonight was
> something of a PR. I started with 95 x 5, 135 x 1, and then 165 x 1.
> Last month I failed at 165 and so this time I thought I'd try 160
> lbs. Well, I'd miscounted the plates. Duh. And the 165 went up with
> me thinking it was the 160.
The power of positive thinking.
> Tried 175 with a lift-off and a spot. Asked my friend not to touch
> the bar unless it landed on my neck. I failed. Did another set, this
> time with 170 lbs. and it went up easily, asked for a forced rep,
> too. Finished with a set of 135 x 7.
I don't like to bench much. Ten reps is likely to be the most I'll
ever do in a workout. Besides, strongman competitions seem to favor
overhead pressing.
>> One of the things that I really appreciate about MFW is that there
>> are lots of people that are way stronger than I am. Of course,
>> that means that my "gym buddies" are all rude and crude, and
>> probably imaginary, but it seems to be working for me.
>
> Camaraderie is a good thing whether it's virtual or... local. In
> fact, one of the things I've always enjoyed about newsgroups is that
> virtual can become local. I spent the first weekend of this month in
> Geneva on the Lake, Ohio camping with friends from another
> newsgroup. Great fun.
Everyone's got to have friends. I floated down the Provo river today
with a group from Church. The water was cold, but the weather was
nice. It was a very pretty trip.
>> I'm from a family of big people. I like to think that I have
>> potential.
>
> My family's a mixed bag. Some six-footers and other
> five-footers. I'm lucky to have reached 6'1". Genetics, God,
> regardless, I'm happy to be this height and so I'll call it lucky in
> that regard.
I've got a brother that is 6'7", he's young though and probably weighs
about 160. He looks like he was made out of pipe cleaners. My dad is
6'1" and big. My dad's brother is 6'6" and played backup defensive
lineman on Brigham Young University's football team the year they won
the national championship. My mom's family is big too. They don't
tend to get overweight like my dad's family does though.
Right now I am 6'2" 220 lbs. I still need a bit of work before you'll
be able to see my abs, but I have come a long way.
>> <snip>I dated a girl whose father was a big farmer. The first time
>> I went to pick her up he brought me into his living room and had a
>> little "interview" with me. Now, I was a good kid, and he was not
>> overtly threatening, but the fact that he could probably tear my
>> arms off didn't escape me.
>
> heh
>
> A friend used to "joke" about having a backhoe and several acres to
> hide bodies.
I worked with a guy once that talked that way. I am not entirely sure
he was kidding.
>> > I want that 365 deadlift again, but this time without the rounded
>> > back. Eventually a 405 dead, too. A strict 200 bench...
>>
>> Fah, I would take a round backed 365 deadlift at this point, as
>> long as it would be legal at an AAU meet :).
>
> Badaboom! Well, at 305 for 5, I'd say you're well on your way. If a
> skinny kid like me can hit 365 (although a lifetime ago) then you
> can, too.
That's the plan, and I am making good progress. What I really want to
be able to do is a double body weight deadlift, but my intermediate
goal is to be able to pull more than Freides :).
>> I call it "Pulse eating" because it sounds better than "Dmitri's
>> Super Duper Eat Once A Day Plan." When I write my fitness book
>> I'll have to come up with a better name.
>
> Make it available as an eBook and you've got yourself a customer.
So far the plan is so simple that it wouldn't even make a good
pamphlet. Maybe if I googled up all of the sciency stuff that Dmitri
was talking about it would make an interesting article.
>> It's sort of like the Warrior Diet without the crappy name and the
>> lame attempts to match it up to the Roman Legionnaire's diet.
>
> I remember reading about the Legionnaire's dispute.
I don't know what it was about that book that turned me off so badly.
I think the idea is mostly sound. He just got carried away. Eating
ONE MEAL A DAY is not magical, and it won't turn you into a killing
machine (well, at least after you stop getting ridiculously hungry).
The book was pretty fair sized and it failed to cover the one truly
helpful piece of information that you need to succeed. The trick is
to work your way down to one meal slowly.
You see, I don't even have to google JMW's creatine post myself. I
just say some crazy thing and someone inevitably sets me straight.
> Oh, heck. Well, at least I can Google. All the words may escape me,
> but the search string of "jmw, creatine, during the workout" sprung
> to mind easily enough.
>
> "Creatine will work better with an insulin spike.
>
> Don't waste you money buying expensive amino acid mixtures. Use a
> reasonable cheap whey protein, preferably a mixture of whey
> concentrate and whey isolate. It breaks down very quickly in the
> gut, and you get the same amino acids in greater quantity -- and at
> a lesser price -- with maybe a half hour delay.
>
> Mix a 12-ounce fruit drink (pick your flavor), with two scoops of
> vanilla whey and a rounded teaspoon of creatine monohydrate, then
> consume it during your workout. Forego simple sugars except for
> times immediately before, during, and immediately after workouts.
> Amino acids in combination with an insulin spike from simple sugars
> during and after heavy resistance training substantially improves
> muscle protein synthesis; controlled studies have repeatedly shown
> that. /jmw
Thanks for that, by the way.
> But, yes, I drink mine after my workout, too. If I drink it. I'm
> faithful with the whey, and usually take the glutamine, but I
> normally forget the creatine. It's the Body Fortress drink mix and
> not just the creatine alone. As soon as I finish this tub of drink
> mix, I'll be buying the creatine monohydrate solo.
I bought the Body Fortress stuff too. I am embarrassed to say that
after all the stuff that people have told me about Creatine that I
just started actually using it a week ago. I have found that I can
get the stuff down if I mix it with Chocolate flavored whey protein,
but since that's what I need to do anyhow, everything is good.
The next stuff I buy will be straight creatine.
>> That's it. That's the whole plan.
>
> Again, glad it's working for you.
>
>> I would have to work pretty hard to stretch that into an entire
>> book.
>
> Hey, if you do, you already know what you should title it!
>
> ONE MEAL A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, sometimes I eat more than one meal a day. I just don't
eat each day until after 6 pm.
Lazy Nutrition is sounding better all the time.
>> Ori did it in "The Warrior Diet" by trying to match the plan up
>> with the eating habits of the Roman Legion, and some other crap,
>> including, if I recall correctly a whole pile of herbal witchdoctor
>> garbage.
>
> Otoh, HERBAL WITCHDOCTOR GARBAGE might find a niche market, too.
Yeah, but not with my family, and that's the group that I am primarily
interested in helping. I am looking for a straightforward way to eat
that works primarily because I am related to a lot of heavy people
that are willing to listen to me.
I'm sure my plan would be more lucrative if I included
witchdoctorisms, but that's not really the point.
>> > That's good to hear. I've been hitting plateaus recently. BAH!
>>
>> Power to the People, baby.
>
> Pavel Rules! :o)
>
>> No seriously, since June 21st I have been lifting 4 or 5 days a
>> week concentrating on two lifts the deadlift and the bench press.
>> I started with the bent press because that's what Pavel actually
>> suggests, but I am still confused what the difference is between
>> the bent press and the side press, so I just went with the bench
>> press. I do two sets of 5 the second one 90% of the first set.
>> Each day I add 5 pounds to the first set and when I can only get
>> two at a given weight, I drop back 25 to 35 pounds or so and work
>> back up again.
>
> That's an interesting workout. I'm on a four-day split, but will be
> switching to a three-day split when school starts. Tuesday,
> Thursday, Saturday is the plan.
I'll almost certainly switch back to a more normal plan once PTTP
stops working for me. I am still a new enough lifter that apparently
I don't need much recovery, assuming I keep the number of exercises I
do low. Besides the deadlifting and the bench pressing I do some
kettlebell stuff, pullups, and some overhead presses and that's it.
None of this comes anywhere near failure.
Well, the swings leave me gasping on the floor for breath, but its not
because my muscles are done.
>> So far the results have been impressive despite the fact that I am
>> only eating ONE MEAL A DAY.
>
> Yup. That definitely sounds like a snappy eBook title.
I'll get to work. After all, I probably don't need actual results to
sell an ebook.
>> Before I tried this I was constantly thinking about my next meal.
>> My wife still can't believe it.
>
> And you don't get hungry? Are you eating the same grams of protein
> only at in serving?
Overall I eat less. In fact, some days I eat *way* less. My appetite
has decreased dramatically. On the weekends I eat normally, because
A) I'm lazy, and B) I like doing stuff with friends and family and C)
I find that if I don't have a few normal days that when I get busy
during the week I don't feel like eating at all.
It's really the strangest thing.
>> > Just enjoyed a mixture of two scoops of Body Fortress whey, a
>> > teaspoon of their glutamine, orange juice, fat-free milk, and
>> > what I'll call a shot of liquid egg whites. I love my Oster
>> > blender. That and a few slices of turkey. I'll do that benching
>> > at 7:30 and report back.
>>
>> I love the Body Fortress Whey.
>
> Yeah, and it's inexpensive. About ten bucks for a two-pound
> container.
>
> (checks cupboard)
>
> $11.39 at Target. I saved the receipt for some odd reason.
I buy the stuff from Costco (now in a big pouch instead of a tub),
because it is somewhat cheaper and it tastes "good enough," but I
liked the taste of Body Fortress better.
<snip kettlebell stuff>
> I have a few sets of hex dumbbells, so I guess that's no less
> practical to purchase set-weight kettlebells. Naturally, less
> expensive is a good thing, though.
If I was buying stuff for home I would have got hex dumbbells
instead. Kettlbells are sweet, but they aren't magical. The kbell
looks much better in my office than a dumbbell would.
Good luck,
Jason
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Larry Hodges" <2la...@2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:
> I have PhotoShop CS, and I'm not impressed. I've tried to adjust to it and
> "catch the passion" for PhotoShop, but it's just not user friendly.
Perhaps not initially... :-)
It's a rather complex program, but I've been using Photoshop now for a
good 7 years. There is a LOT you can do with it even if you just master
the basic tools.
Aftermarket special effects filters add a whole new dimension to it.
> Have
> you tried CorelDraw?
No... I have a mac.
> I DLed the trial for it, but didn't really have a
> chance to use it much before it expired. But...it did seem more intuitive.
> And it's all vector graphics based, not bitmap. I realize Illustrator is
> vector, but nobody really uses that, and still does all their work in
> PhotoShop.
You want a really complex program, try "Poser". <G>
>
> For those not up on graphics, vector graphics stores the image
> mathematically. So, you can resize an image very small, then resize it up
> to a large size and not lose any quality. With an image done in PhotoShop,
> if you save an image in a low resolution, you're screwed if you decide you
> want a higher resolution.
True... but I work with it in a higher rez, then shrink a copy of it
when I'm done for posting. I have the memory and RAM to spare. :-)
>
> -Larry
Curt James
[...]
> <snip>I would much rather have a "discussion" with a group of
> knowledgeable and experience people. Especially if you are
> willing to take the time and learn a little about the various posters.
>
> There's lots of folks here that know more about strength training than
> I do, and I have been called on any number of "facts" that turned out
> to only be misconceptions I had picked up somewhere.
>
> Basically, the idea is to simply talk like you know what you are
> saying until you gain enough knowledge and experience that you
> actually do know what you are saying.
Cool.
re the Those Most Hated list
> It's about time. I was afraid that I was *never* going to make your
> list.
Actually, it's the default setting. EVERYONE is on the list for one
reason or another. ;o)
But, now, you've got the orange Hi-Liter® treatment. More hate for
you!
[preceding message provided by The Satire Foundation - our motto, "No,
really, I'm just kidding."]
re 215 double on the bench
> I'm pretty impressed. Two weeks ago my previous best double was 200.
Excellent.
[...]
> my two oldest *guarantee* that I don't miss my workouts. My oldest
> girl even seems to like the hardest workouts the best. I have some
> pictures that we took of the kids and I cleaning and front pressing
> stuff out on our front lawn and then sprinting down the block and
> back. We did this twice, and it was brutal. I could be done with
> that for life, but my girl keeps asking when we are going to do it
> again.
Sounds like some interesting cross-training to me.
[...]
> The power of positive thinking.
Absolutely. I recently picked up James Loehr's _The New Toughness
Training for Sports: Mental, Emotional, and Physical Conditioning from
One of the World's Premier Sports Psychologists_. That's a mouthful for
a title, but one of the things the author covers is methods for
overcoming stress and fear. Certainly the thought that I was only
attempting 160 gave me the confidence (or reduced my stress/fear) to
lift the 165. Eh, it's only a five-pound difference. Plus I've been
training for a month since that last max attempt. Nonetheless, I think
it's an interesting subject. Yup. The power of positive thinking.
[...]
> I don't like to bench much. Ten reps is likely to be the most I'll
> ever do in a workout. Besides, strongman competitions seem to
> favor overhead pressing.
I've been avoiding the flat bench. My shoulders don't take too kindly
to the exercise, but it's been ingrained in me from a high school
weight training club or all the years of reading the bodybuilding
magazines, whatever, the bench is the hallmark of strength, imo.
[...]
re camaraderie
> Everyone's got to have friends. I floated down the Provo river today
> with a group from Church. The water was cold, but the weather was
> nice. It was a very pretty trip.
Great. Nothing so sensational here. I played chess with a friend. We've
had great weather in this area recently, but today was rainy and muggy.
[...]
> I've got a brother that is 6'7", he's young though and probably weighs
> about 160. He looks like he was made out of pipe cleaners. My dad is
> 6'1" and big. My dad's brother is 6'6" and played backup defensive
> lineman on Brigham Young University's football team the year they won
> the national championship. My mom's family is big too. They don't
> tend to get overweight like my dad's family does though.
Reunions are a trip. You look around and although the family
resemblance is apparent, it's crazy how we're all put together in
slightly (at times significantly) different packages.
> Right now I am 6'2" 220 lbs. I still need a bit of work before you'll
> be able to see my abs, but I have come a long way.
Progress in all things, right?
[...]
re a backhoe and several acres to hide bodies
> I worked with a guy once that talked that way. I am not entirely
> sure he was kidding.
heh
Another friend jokes about cleaning his gun when his girl's dates
appear on the front steps.
[...]
> What I really want to be able to do is a double body weight
> deadlift, but my intermediate goal is to be able to pull more than
> Freides :).
Well, that AAU Raw (no assistive clothing) Division's 347 lbs. is just
a few pounds away. Although Freides weighs, what, a buck-fifty? And to
match him *proportionately* would require... oh, boy. Is my math wrong?
A whopping 520 lbs.?
!!!
Plus, how old are you, Jason? I do believe Steve is 51 now and can pull
360 for at least one rep in training. Just a guess. :o)
Better get to training, J.
[...]
> So far the plan is so simple that it wouldn't even make a good
> pamphlet. Maybe if I googled up all of the sciency stuff that Dmitri
> was talking about it would make an interesting article.
[...]
> I don't know what it was about that book that turned me off so badly.
> I think the idea is mostly sound. He just got carried away. Eating
> ONE MEAL A DAY is not magical, and it won't turn you into a killing
> machine (well, at least after you stop getting ridiculously hungry).
>
> The book was pretty fair sized and it failed to cover the one truly
> helpful piece of information that you need to succeed. The trick is
> to work your way down to one meal slowly.
I'm near the other end of the spectrum from your eating goals, I
believe, but wish you nothing but success regardless of your dietary
experimentation. ;o)
[...]
> I just say some crazy thing and someone inevitably
> sets me straight.
Yes, MFW as magic eightball! My sources say... Lazy Nutrition (and
equally lazy researcher)! :o)
[...]
> I bought the Body Fortress stuff too. I am embarrassed to say that
> after all the stuff that people have told me about Creatine that I
> just started actually using it a week ago. I have found that I can
> get the stuff down if I mix it with Chocolate flavored whey protein,
> but since that's what I need to do anyhow, everything is good.
I mix the drink mix with orange juice and liquid egg whites. Not bad!
> The next stuff I buy will be straight creatine.
But, yes, same here.
[...]
re HERBAL WITCHDOCTOR GARBAGE as a niche market
> Yeah, but not with my family, and that's the group that I am primarily
> interested in helping. I am looking for a straightforward way to eat
> that works primarily because I am related to a lot of heavy people
> that are willing to listen to me.
>
> I'm sure my plan would be more lucrative if I included
> witchdoctorisms, but that's not really the point.
I understand.
> I'll almost certainly switch back to a more normal plan once PTTP
> stops working for me. I am still a new enough lifter that apparently
> I don't need much recovery, assuming I keep the number of exercises I
> do low. Besides the deadlifting and the bench pressing I do some
> kettlebell stuff, pullups, and some overhead presses and that's it.
> None of this comes anywhere near failure.
[...]
I don't train to failure, but I do work hard and strive for increased
intensity at each workout - more reps, less rest, more weight,
something!
> Overall I eat less. In fact, some days I eat *way* less. My appetite
> has decreased dramatically. On the weekends I eat normally, because
> A) I'm lazy, and B) I like doing stuff with friends and family and C)
> I find that if I don't have a few normal days that when I get busy
> during the week I don't feel like eating at all.
>
> It's really the strangest thing.
I visited Wendy's and got a number 2 meal last night. Frosty, double
with cheese, fries! But tonight it was skinless chicken breast and
peas.
[...]
re whey
> I buy the stuff from Costco (now in a big pouch instead of a tub),
> because it is somewhat cheaper and it tastes "good enough," but I
> liked the taste of Body Fortress better.
A million years ago, I used Twin Lab's Gainer's Fuel. Recently, I tried
the Designer whey, but that was in a one-pound (about) can, iirc. I
much prefer the 2 pounders of BF and always go with the chocolate.
> If I was buying stuff for home I would have got hex dumbbells
> instead. Kettlbells are sweet, but they aren't magical. The kbell
> looks much better in my office than a dumbbell would.
Well, if I ever wander into an office and see a kettlebell, at least
I'll be able to guess whose office I'm in. And I wonder what my
students would think of a kettlebell in the art room. They'd probably
paint it given the opportunity. :o)
> Good luck,
> Jason
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Larry Hodges
> In article <S4KdnQUTMcnt1XrZ...@comcast.com>,
> "Larry Hodges" <2la...@2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:
>
>> I have PhotoShop CS, and I'm not impressed. I've tried to adjust to it
>> and
>> "catch the passion" for PhotoShop, but it's just not user friendly.
>
> Perhaps not initially... :-)
> It's a rather complex program, but I've been using Photoshop now for a
> good 7 years. There is a LOT you can do with it even if you just master
> the basic tools.
>
> Aftermarket special effects filters add a whole new dimension to it.
Maybe. But I don't want to dedicate my life to PhotoShop just to do some
graphics.
>> Have
>> you tried CorelDraw?
>
> No... I have a mac.
I'm sorry.
>> I DLed the trial for it, but didn't really have a
>> chance to use it much before it expired. But...it did seem more
>> intuitive.
>> And it's all vector graphics based, not bitmap. I realize Illustrator is
>> vector, but nobody really uses that, and still does all their work in
>> PhotoShop.
>
> You want a really complex program, try "Poser". <G>
>
>>
>> For those not up on graphics, vector graphics stores the image
>> mathematically. So, you can resize an image very small, then resize it
>> up
>> to a large size and not lose any quality. With an image done in
>> PhotoShop,
>> if you save an image in a low resolution, you're screwed if you decide
>> you
>> want a higher resolution.
>
> True... but I work with it in a higher rez, then shrink a copy of it
> when I'm done for posting. I have the memory and RAM to spare. :-)
>
>>
>> -Larry
> --
> Peace!
> Om
>
AMD Athlon 64 dual core 4800+, overclocked
2gb PC3200 dual channel Patriot RAM stepping at 2-3-2-5, 1T
Ultra 320 SCSI 15k rpm Fujitsu hard drives x2 running in RAID 0
Adaptec 39320 dual channel U320 SCSI card
nVidia 7800GT 256mb PCI-e vid card
40gb DAT tape backup, SCSI
Plextor dual layer DVD-RW
Three other SCSI drives for storage (non-RAID)
Two 21" monitors running side by side.
Microsoft XP x64 (true 64-bit OS)
Turn that Mac into the boat anchor that it is and get a real man's computer!
-Larry
Curt James
[...]
> Two 21" monitors running side by side.
[...]
My youngest brother did the same thing. He can mouse across from one
monitor to the other. Sweeeeeet.
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Larry Hodges" <2la...@2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:
I'll consider it if you consider a "real man's" program like Photoshop.
;-)
Corel Draw may be simpler but it's also "simply limited" in what you can
accomplish with it.
I did some googling......
Corel compared to photoshop is like comparing a .22 to a .45. <G>
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
<big fat snip>
>> I don't like to bench much. Ten reps is likely to be the most I'll
>> ever do in a workout. Besides, strongman competitions seem to
>> favor overhead pressing.
>
> I've been avoiding the flat bench. My shoulders don't take too
> kindly to the exercise, but it's been ingrained in me from a high
> school weight training club or all the years of reading the
> bodybuilding magazines, whatever, the bench is the hallmark of
> strength, imo.
That's one of the benefits of being exposed to Dan John's stuff about
the time I started lifting seriously. Instead of fixating on the
bench press I tend to believe that lifting stuff over your head is the
hallmark of strength.
<snip family and friends>
>> What I really want to be able to do is a double body weight
>> deadlift, but my intermediate goal is to be able to pull more than
>> Freides :).
>
> Well, that AAU Raw (no assistive clothing) Division's 347 lbs. is
> just a few pounds away. Although Freides weighs, what, a buck-fifty?
> And to match him *proportionately* would require... oh, boy. Is my
> math wrong? A whopping 520 lbs.?
>
> Plus, how old are you, Jason? I do believe Steve is 51 now and can
> pull 360 for at least one rep in training. Just a guess. :o)
>
> Better get to training, J.
That's the beauty of chasing down Freides. It's quite inspirational
to think that someone 70 pounds lighter than me, 16 years older than
me, and with a back that makes him technically a cripple, would use my
PR weight as a warm up. The fact that I am not really competition for
him despite the fact that I am younger, heavier, and healthier really
helps.
Hopefully, by the time I get to be 51, I'll be competitive in my own
age and weight class.
<snip more stuff>
I read the rest of your post, and liked it, but I don't have time to
reply. Sorry about that.
Take Care,
Jason
Curt James
[...]
re one of the benefits of being exposed to Dan John's stuff
> Instead of fixating on the bench press I tend to believe that
> lifting stuff over your head is the hallmark of strength.
[...]
Olympic lifting holds great appeal for me as well, though. I remember
watching Lee James compete at the '76 Olympics when he won a silver
medal.
http://www.weightliftingexchange.com/we1851.html
I actually tape recorded hours of those games on cassettes.
re the beauty of chasing down Freides
> It's quite inspirational to think that someone 70 pounds lighter
> than me, 16 years older than me, and with a back that makes
> him technically a cripple, would use my PR weight as a warm
> up. The fact that I am not really competition for him despite the
> fact that I am younger, heavier, and healthier really helps.
>
> Hopefully, by the time I get to be 51, I'll be competitive in my
> own age and weight class.
[...]
Ditto on that, naturally.
> I read the rest of your post, and liked it, but I don't have time
> to reply. Sorry about that.
Hey, no apology necessary. Come on. :o)
> Take Care,
You, too, J.
> Jason
--
Curt
Henry
> Henry wrote:
>> WTC7 was hit by a plane? I wish I could say that's the
>>frist time I heard that nonsense, but it seems ignorance
>>with regard to what took place on 9-11-01 runs pretty
>>deep among U.S. citizens...
> Henry, enjoy your perspective, your interpretation of statements made
> by myself and anyone else as well as the facts as presented by the 9/11
> Commission, however based on the following words I'd say a plane, fire,
> and explosions caused the destruction of much more than just the Twin
> Towers on September 11, 2001.
Vague, meaningless evasion.
Tell us exactly what you think caused WTC7 to drop in
perfect syummetry at virtuall free fall speed. No, it
wasn't hit by a plane, had very limtied damage, and only
a few small random fires.
Look at the height of WTC7:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/9-11%20Picture1.jpg
Then look at how it collapsed:
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
Small random fires can't possibly make a steel framed building
do that. Not even a raging inferno can cause a steel building to
do anything even remotely close to that. Only a very well executed
controlled demolition can cause the total, instant, and symmetric
failure of all steel support columns that took place in WTC7.
That was very solidly braced and virtually undamaged steel frame.
It was dramatically over engineered to withstand hurricane force
winds and mild earth quakes. Look at the still photos at 1 second
intervals. The building stays perfectly straight and level all the
way down. Every one of the 58 steel perimeter columns failed at
exactly the same time, and they all failed totally, putting up
essentially zero resistance. That's proven by the collapse time of
6.6 seconds compared to 6 seconds free fall. The southwest corner
of WTC7 was damaged by debris from the north tower, and there were
small random fires in the building, although it's anyone's guess how
they were ignited. But asymmetric damage and random fires don't cause
steel framed buildings to collapse even slowly and asymmetrically.
The near free fall speed and perfectly symmetric collapse of a
steel framed building can only be caused by a very well executed
synchronized demolition.
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
--
Henry
> Henry wrote:
>> WTC7 was hit by a plane? I wish I could say that's the
>>frist time I heard that nonsense, but it seems ignorance
>>with regard to what took place on 9-11-01 runs pretty
>>deep among U.S. citizens...
> Henry, enjoy your perspective, your interpretation of statements made
> by myself and anyone else as well as the facts as presented by the 9/11
> Commission, however based on the following words I'd say a plane, fire,
> and explosions caused the destruction of much more than just the Twin
> Towers on September 11, 2001.
Vague, meaningless evasion.
Tell us exactly what you think caused WTC7 to drop in
perfect syummetry at virtuall free fall speed. No, it
wasn't hit by a plane, had limtied, random damage, and
a few scattered fires.