Windows Server 2008 R2
Gerry Hickman
I have Technet Library Nov 2009, I don't see a collection for Win2008
R2, I do have a collection for Windows 7.
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Gerry Hickman (London UK)
Robert Aldwinckle
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> Hi,
>
> I have Technet Library Nov 2009, I don't see a collection for Win2008 R2,
> I do have a collection for Windows 7.
What does your Online Concierge have to say about this? <EG>
BTW is this related to the problems we found last year?...
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.technet/msg/d42cbae8de65e002?hl=en
HTH
Robert
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Gerry Hickman
> "Gerry Hickman" <gerry...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:eq7hP8ux...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have Technet Library Nov 2009, I don't see a collection for Win2008
>> R2, I do have a collection for Windows 7.
>
>
> What does your Online Concierge have to say about this? <EG>
Unfortunately, there wasn't time to mess around. My last experience with
Concierge on MSDN and Technet was poor.
I have just noticed another issue; searches are not finding KB articles
or Script Center articles. Searches do find "Products and Technologies"
articles.
Do you have an offline library installed?
Do you see Windows Server 2008 R2? Do your searches work for KB?
Thanks.
> BTW is this related to the problems we found last year?...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.technet/msg/d42cbae8de65e002?hl=en
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert
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Robert Aldwinckle
"Gerry Hickman" <gerry...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> Do you have an offline library installed?
No. I have a new tablet and haven't done that on it yet.
>
> Do you see Windows Server 2008 R2? Do your searches work for KB?
I can try. What's the problem? Don't forget that if you have Okapi any
compound searches typically work like OR expressions. So you should try
inserting AND where you would otherwise expect one to be implied. Also,
Okapi precludes use of closures unless you code them using its arcane THRU
operator and syntax.
However, ever since the product keywords and prefixes were dropped from the
online versions and replaced by those numeric values in the Content meta key
I have been expecting that that deficiency would eventually show up in the
offline versions too. Is that the issue? E.g. there probably isn't a
value which will exactly express the product down to a service pack level
the way we used to be able to do using something like kbwin2008sR2* for
example--which BTW in Okapi coding would have to be written something like
(kbwin2008sr20 THRU kbwin2008sr2z). ; }
Robert
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Gerry Hickman
> No. I have a new tablet and haven't done that on it yet.
Hi,
I've just found the ISO for Technet Library March 2010. The ability to
search the KB is now working! BUT... it still doesn't work for Script
Center, nor does it work for Windows Server 2008!
I've been testing the search by navigating to an article, choosing a
non-common word, then searching for that exact word with no filter. It
works for certain "collections" and not others.
>> Do you see Windows Server 2008 R2? Do your searches work for KB?
Plus... There's still no sign of Windows Server 2008 R2!
Robert Aldwinckle
"Gerry Hickman" <gerry...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> I've just found the ISO for Technet Library March 2010.
The English only one? I'm about to install that.
> The ability to search the KB is now working! BUT... it still doesn't work
> for Script Center, nor does it work for Windows Server 2008!
>
> I've been testing the search by navigating to an article, choosing a
> non-common word, then searching for that exact word with no filter. It
> works for certain "collections" and not others.
>
>>> Do you see Windows Server 2008 R2? Do your searches work for KB?
>
> Plus... There's still no sign of Windows Server 2008 R2!
At first I thought we were discussing the download for the MSDN Library
offline and found there...
<voice actor="Bones (StarTrek)" It's dead, Jim. </voice> ; )
E.g. content so old Windows Server 2008 wouldn't have even existed the last
time it was updated.
When did W2008Sr2 start? Perhaps TechNet has a similar (though less
severe) problem with keeping its content current? <eg>
Robert
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Gerry Hickman
>> I've just found the ISO for Technet Library March 2010.
>
> The English only one? I'm about to install that.
Yup, that's the one I'm using.
>> Plus... There's still no sign of Windows Server 2008 R2!
> At first I thought we were discussing the download for the MSDN Library
> offline and found there...
> <voice actor="Bones (StarTrek)" It's dead, Jim. </voice> ; )
Ah yes, MSDN is another (sometimes sad) story. I think it's now tied to
Visual Studio releases.
> E.g. content so old Windows Server 2008 wouldn't have even existed the
> last time it was updated.
>
> When did W2008Sr2 start? Perhaps TechNet has a similar (though less
> severe) problem with keeping its content current? <eg>
The strange thing is that they've included some Win7 content, but I can
see anything for Windows Server 2008 R2. In theory they are the same
code base...
Robert Aldwinckle
"Gerry Hickman" <gerry...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
>
>>> I've just found the ISO for Technet Library March 2010.
>>
>> The English only one? I'm about to install that.
>
> Yup, that's the one I'm using.
Ok. I'm in it.
>
>>> Plus... There's still no sign of Windows Server 2008 R2!
Actually (unfiltered) search for "Windows Server 2008 R2" finds 372
hits. Filtered by Knowledge Base it's 371.
The exception is FAQ
<title>Frequently Asked Questions: Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2
and Windows Vista Service Pack 2</title>
ms-help://MS.TechNet.2010MAR.1033/vista/tnoffline/prodtechnol/vista/sp2/dd335038.htm
So this suggests an alternative (hopefully better) search expression might
be
("Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2" OR "Windows Server 2008 SP2")
Using that finds 331 still mostly KB articles (324), the rest all from
Location: Windows Vista.
I don't see a filter specifically for that location.
I just opened one of the Vista hits, did a View Source on it, and decided to
try to create a filter (Help, Edit filters...) with
"appliesToProduct"="Windows Server 2008"
Calculate with that says that there are 5 documents total which are
indexed that way.
Perhaps a better tactic will be creating one which excludes KB
documents...
KB apparently is "DocSet"="kbKB". Are we allowed to negate that? The
Help is not helpful about that.
Well, this article is apparently in "tnDocSet"="TechNet Domestic"
190761. Wow. That might be useful as an approximation to NOT KB.
Let's try that search again with that. That gets the same 331. So
simpler just to sort the results by Location (descending) and read from
that.
I think negation may actually work! New Filter: NOT KB defined as:
"tnDocSet"="TechNet Domestic" NOT "DocSet"="kbKB"
And that gets all 7 topics that we could otherwise find by an unfiltered
search and then sorting by Location.
BTW this product is showing its rot too. For example, on the disc itself
the offline search tool hasn't been updated since 2008. In Contents
(Ctrl-Alt-F1) What's History *is* History--also last updated in 2008.
There is no filter yet for Content from 2010. If you create one you'll
see that Window products are not represented there (yet). In Content from
2009 you can find 6 articles under Windows Vista Service Pack 2 which is
probably another way of finding most of those 7 NOT KB articles I found by
my search.
HTH
Robert
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Gerry Hickman
> Actually (unfiltered) search for "Windows Server 2008 R2" finds 372
> hits. Filtered by Knowledge Base it's 371.
>
> The exception is FAQ
>
> <title>Frequently Asked Questions: Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2
> and Windows Vista Service Pack 2</title>
> ms-help://MS.TechNet.2010MAR.1033/vista/tnoffline/prodtechnol/vista/sp2/dd335038.htm
Yes, I see the same results, so to clarify; yes there are KB articles
related to Windows Server 2008 R2, but the node for Windows Server 2008
R2 is missing from the TOC when you look at "Products and Technologies",
and this is where the interesting technet documents are usually placed;
e.g. deployment guide, what's new and so on...
Thanks for the tip on creating filters; I found the filter editor on the
help menu.
I also notice there's no option to search for content from 2010!
Robert Aldwinckle
"Gerry Hickman" <gerry...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have Technet Library Nov 2009, I don't see a collection for Win2008 R2,
> I do have a collection for Windows 7.
The May download has one now.
Gerry Hickman
Thank you! I'm off to have a look...
Gerry Hickman
> Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
>>> I have Technet Library Nov 2009, I don't see a collection for Win2008
>>> R2, I do have a collection for Windows 7.
>> The May download has one now.
>
> Thank you! I'm off to have a look...
I installed May2010 Technet Information Library, but I don't see Windows
Server 2008 R2 in the TOC. I only see Windows Server 2008 plus a handful of
documents for Windows Server 2008 R2 RC (Release Candidate).
> Gerry Hickman (London UK)
Robert Aldwinckle
"Gerry Hickman" <gerry...@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> I installed May2010 Technet Information Library, but I don't see Windows
> Server 2008 R2 in the TOC. I only see Windows Server 2008 plus a handful
> of documents for Windows Server 2008 R2 RC (Release Candidate).
Yes but isn't that RC node new? All the documents under it are marked
with a red checkmark at least.
BTW I thought before that there wasn't even a separate file for win7, e.g.
that it had all been grouped under a common file like ws08. So I think
they are making some progress.
Last time I found that there were some documents which weren't in the
Content tree and which weren't even indexed. I have been planning on
trying to get a better handle on the extent of that phenomenon. E.g. I
suspect that what it may be is the inclusion of documents which are only
offered by the use of external links. However, before I try doing that in
any systematic way I'm going to have to teach myself some PowerShell. It
will probably also help to learn something about MS Help 2.0 too. ; )
Robert
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