Practicality of learning/speaking Lojban

[lopa temtru]

I've taken up learning Lojban as a hobby, but I was wondering if anyone could come up with any practical benefits of learning and speaking fluently in Lojban?

 

ki'e

[Chris Patrick]

I look at it like learning an instrument. I do it because it's fun, and the goal is to be good at it so that it will be even more fun. There are several practical benefits of learning Lojban, which I'm sure others will enlighten you about, but the real reason I do it is because it's an end in itself.

mi'e .fraik. mu'o

On Dec 2, 2012, at 4:37 PM, lopa temtru <azur...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've taken up learning Lojban as a hobby, but I was wondering if anyone could come up with any practical benefits of learning and speaking fluently in Lojban?

 

ki'e

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[.arpis.]

I've found that it helps me organize my thoughts: trying to express something in lojban requires you to go beyond the symbol and dig into the substance (mostly because you don't have an expression already prepared, so you need to figure out what exactly it is that you want to say in the process of translating, since metaphors don't translate).

I've also noticed myself having thoughts that would be much nicer/cleaner/more precise if I could express them in lojban (but I'm not yet fluent enough).

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:37 PM, lopa temtru <azur...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've taken up learning Lojban as a hobby, but I was wondering if anyone could come up with any practical benefits of learning and speaking fluently in Lojban?

 

ki'e

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[Jonathan Jones]

The stated primary purpose of Lojban is to be a language which both humans and computers can understand, so that one can speak to both using the same language (rather than for example, English with humans and C++ with computers), so, there's that.

mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

[Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG]

Jonathan Jones wrote:
> The stated primary purpose of Lojban is to be a language which both
> humans and computers can understand, so that one can speak to both using
> the same language (rather than for example, English with humans and C++
> with computers), so, there's that.

Actually, that is NOT the primary purpose, but one possible secondary
purpose. From the intro brochure (largely unchanged for 25 years):


> Why was Lojban developed?
>
> Lojban was originally designed for the purpose of supporting research
> on a concept known as the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: "the structure of a
> language constrains the thinking of people using that language".
> Lojban allows the full expressive capability of a natural language,
> but differs in structure from other languages in major ways. This
> allows its use as a test vehicle for scientists studying the
> relationships between language, thought, and culture.
>
>
>Other uses for Lojban
>
> Lojban was designed as a human language, and not as a computer
> language. It is therefore intended for use in conversation, reading,
> writing, and thinking. However, since Lojban can be processed by a
> computer much more easily than can a natural language, Lojban-based
> computer applications are a natural expectation. Due to its
> unambiguous grammar and simple structure, it can be easily parsed by
> computers, making it possible for Lojban to be used in the future for
> computer-human interaction, and perhaps conversation. Lojban's
> predicate structure is similar to AI, suggesting it as a powerful
> tool in AI processing, especially in the storing and processing of
> data about the world and people's conceptions of it. Linguists are
> interested in Lojban's potential as an intermediate language in
> computer-aided translation of natural languages. Other people are
> interested in Lojban as an international language.


lojbab

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[Jonathan Jones]

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:

Jonathan Jones wrote:

The stated primary purpose of Lojban is to be a language which both
humans and computers can understand, so that one can speak to both using
the same language (rather than for example, English with humans and C++
with computers), so, there's that.

Actually, that is NOT the primary purpose, but one possible secondary purpose.  From the intro brochure (largely unchanged for 25 years):

Right, sorry. I had completely forgotten about the SWH.
 

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