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Lalit Pant

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Oct 1, 2018, 9:59:00 AM10/1/18
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Dear Language Translators,

Please translate the following strings:
S_GenerativeArt=Generative Art
S_TiledLines=Tiled Lines
S_JoyDivision=Joy Division
S_CubicDisarray=Cubic Disarray
S_TriMesh= Triangular Mesh
S_Mondrian=Mondrian Effect
S_SubtractionGame=Subtraction Game

Thanks,
- Lalit

Lalit Pant

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Oct 1, 2018, 11:48:18 AM10/1/18
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And to provide some context for the translation request, the generative art titles:
S_TiledLines=Tiled Lines
S_JoyDivision=Joy Division
S_CubicDisarray=Cubic Disarray
S_TriMesh= Triangular Mesh
S_Mondrian=Mondrian Effect

...are drawing numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, and 8 from this page:

Björn Regnell

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Oct 1, 2018, 1:52:57 PM10/1/18
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Swedish: (I think Joy Division makes no sense to translate to any language as its a name...)
https://youtu.be/reEQye0EOAw

S_TiledLines=Kakel-linjer
S_JoyDivision=Joy Division
S_CubicDisarray=Kubisk oordning
S_TriMesh= Triangelnät
S_Mondrian=Mondrianska element

BTW: Wouldn't this be more idiomatic in english?
S_Mondrian=Mondrian Elements
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Lalit Pant

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Oct 1, 2018, 2:40:59 PM10/1/18
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Thanks, Bjorn.

> I think Joy Division makes no sense to translate to any language as its a name
Ah, right.

> BTW: Wouldn't this be more idiomatic in english?
> S_Mondrian=Mondrian Elements
Let me think about that...

/L

Björn Regnell

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Oct 1, 2018, 3:01:48 PM10/1/18
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google images search on modrian+elements:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=mondrian+elements

Lalit Pant

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Oct 1, 2018, 3:08:33 PM10/1/18
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Good thought, doing a Google search to gain insight.

A search for 'Mondrian Effect' also brings up interesting results.

Gonna crash now, will pick this thread up tomorrow ;)

PS. Cubic Disarray also seems to be the name of a Painting...

Lalit Pant

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Oct 2, 2018, 12:30:56 AM10/2/18
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I'm leaning towards Mondrian Effect, but am also fine with Mondrian Elements. Would anyone else care to chime in on this?
And I'll let Cubic Disarray go untranslated (if that's fine?).

/L

Massimo Maria Ghisalberti

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Oct 2, 2018, 3:35:17 AM10/2/18
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hi to all,
maybe it would be better to leave all of them in English as names of art pieces.
In Italian, some things I don't know really how to translate without too much
words, so I would leave them as they are.

S_GenerativeArt=Arte Generativa
S_TiledLines=Linee Piastrellate
S_JoyDivision=Joy Division
S_CubicDisarray=Cubic Disarray
S_TriMesh=Geometria triangolare
S_Mondrian=Effetto Mondrian
S_SubtractionGame=Gioco della sottrazione

For S_Mondrian, why not the real name of Mondrian? "Piet Mondrian" as in a web
page? Same for "Cubic Disarray", a name of a generative art by Georg Nees. In
italian is "disordine cubico" or "squilibrio cubico" but I don't think that such
localization makes the real concept behind this.
"Joy Division" is "Joy Division" as in memory of Ian Curtis. :)

Ok.

For block programming in Kojo... Kojo is text based. Period.
I completely agree with Björn and I can confirm in my little experience what he
said.

m.
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Björn Regnell

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Oct 2, 2018, 3:55:59 AM10/2/18
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fine by me
/B

Lalit Pant

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Oct 2, 2018, 8:59:57 AM10/2/18
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Hi Massimo,
Thanks. 

Let's go with exactly what you have done - leave Joy Division and Cubic Disarray (which are well known names of artistic works) untranslated, and let's use translations for the other names (which are descriptions that we have cooked up for the corresponding samples). 

Regards,
- Lalit



On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:47 PM Massimo Maria Ghisalberti <massimo.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
hi to all,
maybe it would be better to leave all of them in English as names of art pieces.
In Italian, some things I don't know really how to translate without too much
words, so I would leave them as they are.

S_GenerativeArt=Arte Generativa
S_TiledLines=Linee Piastrellate
S_JoyDivision=Joy Division
S_CubicDisarray=Cubic Disarray
S_TriMesh=Geometria triangolare
S_Mondrian=Effetto Mondrian
S_SubtractionGame=Gioco della sottrazione

For S_Mondrian, why not the real name of Mondrian? "Piet Mondrian" as in a web
page? Same for "Cubic Disarray", a name of a generative art by Georg Nees. In
italian is "disordine cubico" or "squilibrio cubico" but I don't think that such
localization makes the real concept behind this.
"Joy Division" is "Joy Division" as in memory of Ian Curtis. :)

Ok.

For block programming in Kojo... Kojo is text based. Period.
I completely agree with Björn and I can confirm in my little experience what he
said.

m.

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