Style
=====
Spiral vase
Speed adjust for bridges
+Speed setting style-related
Horizontal surfaces thickness control
Support
=======
+Brim
Change height of support
Control over wipe pillar size or placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head
retraction during wipe
Printer
=======
Speed adjust for bridges
Misc
====
Sequential printing
True arc support
+ Horizontal surfaces thickness control
+ Sequential printing
+ Filament usage in MM for each extruder
As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
I believe that quoting the BELOW TEXT and adding a "+" to desired feature will help Jonathan to decide about priorities.
:-)
Style
=====
Spiral vase
Speed adjust for bridges
+Speed setting style-related
+Horizontal surfaces thickness control
Support
=======
+Brim
+Change height of support
Control over wipe pillar size or placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head
retraction during wipe
Printer
=======
Speed adjust for bridges
Misc
====
+Sequential printing
True arc support
++Filament usage in MM for each extruder
As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
I believe that quoting the BELOW TEXT and adding a "+" to desired feature will help Jonathan to decide about priorities.
:-)
Style
=====
+Bridges with large overlapping 1-2 mm
+Speed adjust for bridges
+Speed setting style-related
+Honeycomb fill (waay sturdier than octo ... especially when using stacked sparse)
Material
========
+retraction during wipe
+Speed adjust for bridges
Printer
=======
Misc
====
So, I'm posting a build here, and not on the main preview thread because this one is scary! I had to make a bunch of changes for sequential build (and still not done yet...prime pillar doesn't work with sequential). So, this is a "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND PLEASE DON'T REPOST OUTSIDE THIS FORUM" build. [8^)
- Fixed the "All loops (ISOs) print at solid speed" bug
Yes. This. Please!
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This will create a raft under the support material (and everything it's supporting) but not under the bottom of the part.
Style
=====
Spiral vase
+Bridges with large overlapping 1-2 mm
+Speed adjust for bridges
Speed setting style-related
+Horizontal surfaces thickness control+Different speeds for the last 1-2 Solid layersSet default direction of loops to be clockwise, counterclockwise, or alternating (would help a lot with protruding parts that otherwise need support)Variable layer height
Clip-like wipe (turn off extrusion before end of movement)
Honeycomb fill (waay sturdier than octo ... especially when using stacked sparse)
Supportretraction during wipe
=======
+Brim
+Change height of support (editable number of interface layers)
+Control over wipe pillar size or placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
+Control over speed of support
+Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Support range (to get support from Zmin to Zmax)
Support interface switch (make interface only with bed)
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
Lift Cool headuser defined field for postprocessor+Speed adjust for bridges
Printer
=======user defined field for postprocessorMisc
====
Sequential printing
True arc support
Filament usage in MM for each extruder (pronterface already does this, although maybe not per-extruder)
Recap of all current settings (style, support, printer) on lower left screen
+Rotate model about X/Y axes (freeform and multiples of 90 degrees)
Make file open and file save dialogs independent
Offer to reload an object if it changes on disk.
Save a project
Ability to choose where on the print the seam will occur
As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
I believe that quoting the BELOW TEXT and adding a "+" to desired feature will help Jonathan to decide about priorities.
:-)
Style
=====
+Spiral vase
++Bridges with large overlapping 1-2 mm
++Speed adjust for bridges
++Speed setting style-related
++Horizontal surfaces thickness control++Different speeds for the last 1-2 Solid layers
Set default direction of loops to be clockwise, counterclockwise, or alternating (would help a lot with protruding parts that otherwise need support)
Variable layer height
Clip-like wipe (turn off extrusion before end of movement)
+Honeycomb fill (waay sturdier than octo ... especially when using stacked sparse)
slow slopes automatically got lower layer heights of the perimeter only.now with multi colored objects: a setting for each material to do an extra retraction and prime at extruder change (at the spot were the prime tower is located).
Support
=======
++Brim
++Change height of support(editable number of interface layers)
Control over wipe pillar size or placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Support range (to get support from Zmin to Zmax)
Support interface switch (make interface only with bed)
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head++retraction during wipe+++user defined field for postprocessor++Speed adjust for bridges
Printer
=======+++user defined field for postprocessorMisc++++Filament usage in MM for each extruder (pronterface already does this, although maybe not per-extruder)
====
+Sequential printing
+True arc support
+Recap of all current settings (style, support, printer) on lower left screen
Rotate model about X/Y axes (freeform and multiples of 90 degrees)Make file open and file save dialogs independentOffer to reload an object if it changes on disk.
Save a project
Ability to choose where on the print the seam will occur
Specify areas for different fill percentages - so I could have 100% fill areas in a model that is otherwise 30%
No oversampling switch
Interesting! It would be trivial to make the whole top layer of the raft solid. Is that what you meant?Jonathan
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:56:24 PM UTC-7, Davide Ardizzoia wrote:Hello Jonathan,
thank you for the solid interface, it's one step toward perfection !
BUT : could you put it also under faces sitting directly on the raft ?
=======
++Brim
++Change height of support(editable number of interface layers)
Control over wipe pillar size or placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Support range (to get support from Zmin to Zmax)
Support interface switch (make interface only with bed)
User defined size and spacing of grid
As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
To help Jonathan see what are the most wanted features, please quote this message, leaving only the features you are interested into, I will keep up-to-date the very first message of this thread.
I will take care to add the "+" on the first message.
Style
=====
+Spiral vase
++Bridges with large overlapping 1-2 mm
++Speed adjust for bridges
++Speed setting style-related
++Horizontal surfaces thickness control++Different speeds for the last 1-2 Solid layersSet default direction of loops to be clockwise, counterclockwise, or alternating (would help a lot with protruding parts that otherwise need support)
Variable layer height
Clip-like wipe (turn off extrusion before end of movement)
+Honeycomb fill (waay sturdier than octo ... especially when using stacked sparse)slow slopes automatically got lower layer heights of the perimeter only.now with multi colored objects: a setting for each material to do an extra retraction and prime at extruder change (at the spot were the prime tower is located).
Support
=======
++Brim
+++Change height of support(editable number of interface layers)
+Control over wipe pillar size and placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Support range (to get support from Zmin to Zmax)
Support interface switch (make interface only with bed)
User defined size and spacing of grid
Interface layer with alternated fill (crossing)
Control on skirt height
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head
++retraction during wipe
+++user defined field for postprocessor
Pulse cooling fan++Speed adjust for bridges
Printer
=======
+++user defined field for postprocessor
User defined overlap (or a way to do more than 100% overlap)
As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
To help Jonathan see what are the most wanted features, please quote this message, leaving only the features you are interested into, I will keep up-to-date the very first message of this thread.
I will take care to add the "+" on the first message.
Style
=====
+Spiral vase
++Bridges with large overlapping 1-2 mm
++Speed adjust for bridges
++Speed setting style-related
++Horizontal surfaces thickness control++Different speeds for the last 1-2 Solid layersSet default direction of loops to be clockwise, counterclockwise, or alternating (would help a lot with protruding parts that otherwise need support)
Variable layer height
Clip-like wipe (turn off extrusion before end of movement)
+Honeycomb fill (waay sturdier than octo ... especially when using stacked sparse)slow slopes automatically got lower layer heights of the perimeter only.now with multi colored objects: a setting for each material to do an extra retraction and prime at extruder change (at the spot were the prime tower is located).
Stacked sparse also for solid infill
Precise control upon infill percentage
Support
=======
++Brim (beta)
+++Change height of support(editable number of interface layers)
+Control over wipe pillar size and placement
+Solid interface for support and grid (beta)
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Support range (to get support from Zmin to Zmax)
Support interface switch (make interface only with bed)
User defined size and spacing of grid
Interface layer with alternated fill (crossing)
Control on skirt height
Control on grid/raft thickness
Single skirt for all objects
User defined placement of pillar
Better adhesion of priming pillar
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head
++retraction during wipe+++user defined field for postprocessor++Speed adjust for bridges
Pulse cooling fan
Printer
=======+++user defined field for postprocessor
User defined overlap (or a way to do more than 100% overlap)Misc++++Filament usage in MM for each extruder (pronterface already does this, although maybe not per-extruder)
====
+Sequential printing
+True arc support
+Recap of all current settings (style, support, printer) on lower left screen (beta)
Rotate model about X/Y axes (freeform and multiples of 90 degrees)Make file open and file save dialogs independentOffer to reload an object if it changes on disk.
Save a project
Ability to choose where on the print the seam will occurSpecify areas for different fill percentages - so I could have 100% fill areas in a model that is otherwise 30%Rotate model about X/Y axes (freeform and multiples of 90 degrees)
No oversampling switchMake file open and file save dialogs independent
Cool down area (when not changing extruder)Link style to material
Configurable default setup
1/1 alternance of extruder during prints (to avoid stripes at expense of longer print times)
my thoughts are towards diversifying the purge function, to help with nozzle readiness and nozzle deactivation.I see similar requests, but here is my take on them. I like PLA running hot, so drool, purge and nozzle readiness is an issue.
Before the deselect, with some printing still left, a variable (travel mm or time or ?) to turn off the active extruders heat and start up the upcoming extruders heat. Time might work well, as it's easy to know the cool and warm periods.Even though drool is eliminated by cooling unused nozzles, this might speed up the change over. I like to finish on the infill area to plug/contain drool during cooldown and warmup over the purge pillar center.Might need a retract here to relieve pressures, then a z-drop to get nozzle over to pillar center.
That is the next wish: purge an variable amount into the center of the purge pillar, turning it into a purge bucket, then the building of the bucket is improved because the nozzle is ready/primed for pillar walls and is kind of a wipe function.Not sure how layer 1 would work with purging into the bucket center, since the gap would be one layer, which is not a lot of space to send a hot ball of goo. the z-drop might keep the first 1 or 2 layers deeper, creating goo space.Maybe the first layer for each extruder could be a tight outward spiral, fully creating a floor and providing the purge.
Purge loop number could help with the strength.
How about this:
+Purge pillar with solid 1st layer.
+Add <PillarX> and <PillarY> to the gcode variables. If pillar disabled then they are both 0.
+Start cooling heads X minutes before required, finish printing with cooling head. (If not set exactly right then this might cause more problems than it solves, like stripping. And my printer prevents cold extrusion under 170C)
I don't understand the "z drop" though.
Thank you,
Errol
- As suggested by Peter :"Extra user fields for material and printer that get added as comments in generated GCode.
This will help machine specific post-processors handle special settings instead of hijacking existing fields."- Have a different speed for the last 1-2 layers of Solid
Le mercredi 14 mai 2014 18:03:22 UTC+2, Davide Ardizzoia a écrit :
As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
I believe that quoting the BELOW TEXT and adding a "+" to desired feature will help Jonathan to decide about priorities.
:-)
Style
=====
Spiral vase+Speed setting style-related
Speed adjust for bridges
+Horizontal surfaces thickness control
Support
=======
+Brim
+Change height of support
Control over wipe pillar size or placement
+Solid interface for support and grid
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head+Sequential printing
retraction during wipe
Printer
=======
Speed adjust for bridges
Misc
====
True arc support
++Filament usage in MM for each extruder
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Another wishlist item, please: primeter/skirt (not brim) that stays with the object all the way to the top of the object -- in theory, this allows creating a wall that can help to contain the heat of the printed object so that it cools down a little more gradually.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:53 AMments in generated GCode.
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As I see several requests for same feature, I took 5 minutes to elaborate a recap.
To help Jonathan see what are the most wanted features, please quote this message, leaving only the features you are interested into, I will keep up-to-date the very first message of this thread.
I will take care to add the "+" on the first message.
Style
=====
+Spiral vase
++Bridges with large overlapping 1-2 mm
++Speed adjust for bridges
++Speed setting style-related
++Horizontal surfaces thickness control++Different speeds for the last 1-2 Solid layersSet default direction of loops to be clockwise, counterclockwise, or alternating (would help a lot with protruding parts that otherwise need support)
Variable layer height
Clip-like wipe (turn off extrusion before end of movement)
+Honeycomb fill (waay sturdier than octo ... especially when using stacked sparse)slow slopes automatically got lower layer heights of the perimeter only.now with multi colored objects: a setting for each material to do an extra retraction and prime at extruder change (at the spot were the prime tower is located).Stacked sparse also for solid infill
Precise control upon infill percentage
Support
=======
++Brim (beta)
+++Change height of support(editable number of interface layers)
+Control over wipe pillar size and placement
+Solid interface for support and grid (beta)
+Control over speed of support
Toggle support of each part in multipart print
Support range (to get support from Zmin to Zmax)
Support interface switch (make interface only with bed)
User defined size and spacing of grid
Interface layer with alternated fill (crossing)
++Control on skirt height (or automatically set it high like the object)
Control on grid/raft thickness
Single skirt for all objects
User defined placement of pillar
Better adhesion of priming pillar
User control on brim thickness (layers)
Material
========
Speed setting for each material
+Lift Cool head
G-code]:
-Select and deselect extruder should only aplly when change of extruders is called, but not for when selecting the same extruder for temparature change from first layer onto the rest for example.
I disagree. I use the select gcode to move the extruder to X=0,Y=0 for the temperature change, else the head sits ON the print cooling down after a hot first layer which makes a mess of the print.
Thank you,
Errol
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G-code]:I disagree. I use the select gcode to move the extruder to X=0,Y=0 for the temperature change, else the head sits ON the print cooling down after a hot first layer which makes a mess of the print.
-Select and deselect extruder should only aplly when change of extruders is called, but not for when selecting the same extruder for temparature change from first layer onto the rest for example.
Exactly my point, this behaviour is useless, instead it should trigger M104 and keep on printing. This way you only loose time and give one more opurtunity for something to screw things up. For example, for one headed machine I use M104 for transition to second layer but for double headed action it is not possible to do so if you cool the heads down.
Hope now is more understandable what I was trying to say.
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Hi Chris,
sorry to question your desires, but I do not understand what material are you using? ABS is more in the area of 0.5-0.6% and not two like you are describing. I mostly use ABS and ABS-PC and ì scale whole model uniform by 1.006 and print dimensionally comes out perfect, in Z also. This is becaose when print is cooling down its not oly cooling in XY but its cooling in XYZ, with proper setup (heated bed/chamber) so its also contracting uniformly in XYZ when cooling.
Maybe good time to chexk your calibration?
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FDM parts dont shrink linearly in XY and Z... it has everything to do with the way the plastic is stretched as it's being laid down.I don't understand why this is worth so much debate. It's either a worthy feature - or it's not.
LOL! Somehow this shrinkage subject is always causing a lot of discussion :-)