Wishlist for 1.5 and on

[Rick Zehr]

Time to start a current wishlist to help Jonathon research what the current users most desire. 

At the top of my single-item list is Sequential Printing: print one object until done, then on to the next object. This can reduce spoilage (because a failure only affects one object, not all of them). It can also improve print quality and print faster, because it eliminates moves within a layer.

 Both Cura and Simplify3D now offer Sequential printing, and it works well.

[James Zatopa]

some things I would like to see.

- I would like to be able to see the support and adjust it's height visually.  Currently you can control how high the support goes but it's just a guess and check.  Customizable support a la simlify3D would be awesome but I know it's a tall order

- I have been wondering if a 90 or 45 degree angle wipe in and out of perimeter passes would help hide blobs and seams.  Something worth experimenting with?

- spiral vase mode

- true arc support - maybe one day?

- Dynamic speed/acceleration adjustment for overhangs and bridges.  On prints with overhangs it would be nice if KS slowed down just for the overhang part, potentially cranking up the fan if it is enabled.  This would only be on the perimeter.  Same idea with bridging but I don't know if you would want it faster or slower.

[Isaac Thompson]

Separate settings for bridging! :)

vertical separation between support and model (currently it's just horizontal separation)
I agree with the wipe-in angle for helping hide seams and blobs

bought the pro license two days ago, now i need to mod my printer! 

 

[Isaac Thompson]

just thought of one other thing that i've never seen implemented in a slicer:

say you are printing a wall .9mm thick, and your extrusion width is set to .3mm, with 1 loop, and a skin thickness of .6mm.  since the extrusion is only .3 mm, right now it prints the wall with just two passes, although math says it should be able to do a single pass in between the two shells. it would be nice if it could calculate the width of solid infill, and if it's less than a certain width between the shells, do a single line of extrusion (which you could set to have some maximum and minimum width) instead of a bunch of zig-zag infill that ends up resulting in lots of vibrations.
this would make wall parts print much faster and smoother, as well as eliminate the possibility of thin walls having an inner and outer skin that aren't quite tied together

[Matej Rozman]

This feature is already implemeted (for very very long time now), you can control it with extrusion width&crowning and KS in the only slicer out there to support this if you dont count the experimental slic3r version.

Just a heads up, if your wall is 1,5mm and the extrusion width is set @0,5mm and you dont see linear infill (crowning), set extrusion width to 0,51 or 0,52 and slice again and it will apear.

Its not always like this, but sometimes this helps.

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[jfk]

My biggest wish is still a brim-feature! Helps a lot and is very easy to remove.

[Ryan]

Make CubeX a native printer for KISSlicer (so we don't have to use Cubeit). 

[Steven]

Ryan,

You can program the Cubex using Kisslicer without cubit or cubitmod.

Rename your existing printers.ini file to printers_ini.old.  Copy the attached _printers.ini file to your kisslicer folder.

In the style tab uncheck destring.  

This setup is the equivalent of cubit version 2 and most of 3, and cubitmod version 1.  Basically, all of the functions of cubit are relocated to the Ptr Gcode tab.

Steven

[robert....@gmail.com]

cura does it as well, unless I'm misunderstanding what you guys mean. In my experience the "crowning" in KS is a bit hit or miss, sometimes the print get a bit rough as it there's a lot of starting and stopping. If you have a circle shape for example it doesn't always do a complete crown around the whole circle but instead breaks it up into several separate passes so the top surface gets bumpy.

Den söndagen den 27:e april 2014 kl. 23:09:48 UTC+2 skrev Matej Rozman:

This feature is already implemeted (for very very long time now), you can control it with extrusion width&crowning and KS in the only slicer out there to support this if you dont count the experimental slic3r version.

Just a heads up, if your wall is 1,5mm and the extrusion width is set @0,5mm and you dont see linear infill (crowning), set extrusion width to 0,51 or 0,52 and slice again and it will apear.

Its not always like this, but sometimes this helps.

2014-04-27 22:12 GMT+02:00 Isaac Thompson <nhfre...@gmail.com>:

just thought of one other thing that i've never seen implemented in a slicer:

say you are printing a wall .9mm thick, and your extrusion width is set to .3mm, with 1 loop, and a skin thickness of .6mm.  since the extrusion is only .3 mm, right now it prints the wall with just two passes, although math says it should be able to do a single pass in between the two shells. it would be nice if it could calculate the width of solid infill, and if it's less than a certain width between the shells, do a single line of extrusion (which you could set to have some maximum and minimum width) instead of a bunch of zig-zag infill that ends up resulting in lots of vibrations.
this would make wall parts print much faster and smoother, as well as eliminate the possibility of thin walls having an inner and outer skin that aren't quite tied together

On Sunday, April 27, 2014 12:00:30 PM UTC-8, Isaac Thompson wrote:

Separate settings for bridging! :)

vertical separation between support and model (currently it's just horizontal separation)
I agree with the wipe-in angle for helping hide seams and blobs

bought the pro license two days ago, now i need to mod my printer! 

 

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[Piotr Siwek]

Another vote for brimm, without it I cant use Kisslicer for abs prints.

[Andrew Rutter]

I need greater control over the wipe pillar. Namely I need to be able to make it use more material. More shells would work just fine.

[A. Elias]

+1 for brim

[Plamen Barzakov]

1: Brim option so we printing with ABS is easier

2: Option to make the top X layers of the support completely solid, so the part finishing is better, when support is disaolved

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

1 - Brim
2 - Separate support material speed control
3 - Disable or roof for bottom support material interface layer. (Still using 1.1.0.5 Beta at times for this feature.)
     is ok for interface to bed but can be hard to remove from print surface where support material covers part of the print.

[Alan Timm]

+1 for Brim

[Florian Horsch]

+1 for Brim

+ Round Print Bed Visualisation option for all those Delta printers out there

That would be awesome.

Flo

[Peter Gregory]

Print bed limits for each print head.
Each print head as different limits, it would be nice to see where the limits are for each head.
That will help placement of parts to make sure all active print heads can reach the part.

[erikf...@gmail.com]

Maybe this has already been talked about. But why cant you place support only where you want it?

[3D_er]

what about a purging of filament option? i know the perimeter kinda does this but an option to purge a longer larger amount from a color change?

[Isaac Thompson]

you can add a line of g-code to do extra purge after a nozzle change if you need it. it's under gcode -> deselect extruder tab

[3D_er]

ok cool, can you share the line of g-code?

[Isaac Thompson]

G1 E50 F100 ; test extrude 50mm 

this will extrude 50mm of plastic, at feed rate 100mm/minute (i think? maybe someone can correct me) wherever the print head happens to be when it selects the extruder. this would go under the gcode - > select extruder tab, at the end of everything else. 

i don't have dual extruders, so i don't have a way to test how this would work, but that's what that line of g-code does.

[3D_er]

thanks isaac, ill play around with it.

[Jaime García Villena]

Regulable interface support material spacing. (also the raft) I need the chance to make them solid, so parts will be perfect. :]

[Alan Timm]

Hey Florian,

You can actually add a custom bed stl file to KISSlicer in the currently released version.  Here's where I pulled the file for use with a Rostock Max.

It would be pretty straightforward to recreate one for an Orion, or any other delta printer.

Alan

[Mimo]

+1 for all the bridging control (fan activation, additional speed control) that James wrote

[jomo]

how about arrow keys that let you scroll through the layers one at a time rather then dragging thru  and hoping you  get the next layer.  Great work thanks for your efforts jon.,

 

[Davide Ardizzoia]

My wishes:

1)  A way to handle very large models without crashing (Win XP)
2)  Cura-like "cool lift", to lift and move nozzle away from print zone while waiting to cool down a bit. On small dome-like surfaces this makes a lot of difference
3)  Flat support interface surfaces


Anyway, REALLY HAPPY with current beta !

Happy Weekend
Davide Ardizzoia

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

How big of files are you crashing on? No crashes for me on 5 million + polygons and 200mb+ file sizes.

[Davide Ardizzoia]

Actually it seems not to be a memory-size thing, as I am getting crashes with 2-3Mb files.
It appears to be real-world-size issue: when I slice 300x500x200 mm things I get the Visual C++ runtime error.

Best Regards
Davide Ardizzoia

[3D_er]

actually if u just click the slider to select it, u can then just use your keyboard arrows to go one at a time, 

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

Davide,

That is most likely going to be a PC specific error you are getting, I had similar crashes about a year ago with XP due to a C++ driver error conflict that was not specifically caused by KS. Jonathan and others could not reproduce my error, and upon a fresh install of XP, the error no longer happened. Many application installs will replace existing C++ related drivers with thir own, and can cause these type of errors. I tried many C++ version installs but only a system format corrected the problem.

That being said, I just sliced a Pink Panther Woman at a height of 1000mm with a layer height of 0.1mm without a crash, did take a couple hours. Produced a Gcode file size of 270Mb. Way outside my build envelope with an estimated time of 1600+ hours.

Steve

[Davide Ardizzoia]

Tried bumping up oversampling to 0.25mm and it works!

OTH I have not the stomach to unistall-reinstall XP+Solidworks  :-)

Best Regards
Davide Ardizzoia

[TOM YY]

Cura has a plugins called "EasyRemoveableRaft", hopes to applied KISSlicer

I am now using the M221 to set the Layer 2 raft to reduce the feeding rate.

After a few tests, the amount of the first layer extrusion cut to 40 percent, the temperature drop of 10 degrees; second layer begins to recall normal extrusion capacity with temperature, the effect will be better.


Rick Zehr於 2014年4月28日星期一UTC+8上午1時08分48秒寫道：

[Ryan]

Ability to independently toggle ON/OFF supports & raft for each different part in a multi-part print.

[PenskeGuy]

Yep. My 3DT shows the build volume for each extruder. The darker volume is the overlap.

EDIT: Well, it seems that this stupid forum's uploader is Borked again. Tried two different browsers. I'll attach the file later. 

[PenskeGuy]

What's your Oversample set to? That uses a potful of RAM.

[PenskeGuy]

Or a couple of hits on the [Tab] key and it'll highlight, so you don't inadvertently move it, then arrow scroll.

[John Harris]

+1 for brim, it's a must have to get flat parts.

[Davide Ardizzoia]

Il giorno martedì 6 maggio 2014 20:24:23 UTC+2, PenskeGuy ha scritto:

What's your Oversample set to? That uses a potful of RAM.

Hello PenskeGuy,

You missed my reply, three messages up...:

Tried bumping up oversampling to 0.25mm and it works!

Bye
Davide Ardizzoia
 

[sec master]

Bridge setting and Brim !

[Paul Jenkins]

Yeah, I want to second the brim feature.  This feature in Slic3r has resolved many curling issues with a lot of prints.

On Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:41:55 PM UTC-4, jfk wrote:

My biggest wish is still a brim-feature! Helps a lot and is very easy to remove.

[Davide Ardizzoia]

More control on grid support: I would like to be able to put more distance between object and plate.
Flat interface between support and object: the lower part of supported parts is not completely flat.
Speed setting recorded into "style" tab settings.

Best Regards
Davide Ardizzoia

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

Little feature, would like to see filament usage in MM per print after slicing in with time and cost estimate dialog.

[Peter Gregory]

Extra user fields for material and printer that get added as comments in generated GCode.
This will help machine specific post-processors handle special settings instead of hijacking existing fields.

[Bartlomiej Ceglik]

- option for retraction during wipe (at the same time) 

not 

retract, done, wipe, done, next path

[Rick Zehr]

Calculate and display filament usage in meters, rather than the fairly useless cc's of volume.

[plexus eye]

On the mac version 1414 when I click to open a file, instead of getting a finder file selector I get something that is more like a windows or X windows file selector which doesn't allow me to access the drive where my files are.

Can we please go back to the finder file selector. please?

[Emile Wim]

++ Sequential printing ( mainly for filaments that droop a lot i.e. polycarbonate & nylon)
++ Brim

[funBart]

Rick, as I finally found the option that everybody can edit his /her own post: would you mind to make a short-list in your first post to collect all the wishes?

Bart 

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

Would like to see KS launch maximized as KS was when it was last closed. I keep maximizing the window, but it never is when re-launched. Does seem to re-launch the same when the window is down sized.

[Robert Eaton]

If you're using Windows, create a shortcut on the desktop and in the shortcut properties you can set it to start maximized.

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

Thanks Robert,

Never thought of that because any other apps I run launch to previous state.

[Robert Eaton]

Yup. The program could save its current window state and then use it next time it runs. But this is a workaround.

[Bartlomiej Ceglik]

idea for "fake quality improvement" 

I think it is possible to implement

idea for solving created problems.

- print prime shell in first place ( then it will be possible to make more then one sub layer )

- for dimension and material volume amount maintain regularity by adding: 

flow tweak (material amount) in sub layers 

sub layer width. 

Now there is "Extrusion width" and "Infill Extrusion Width"

benefits of that solution are grate! 

- almost same speed of printing

- double or triple or quadruple (depends of sub layers count) visual quality

[Rick Zehr]

Set the thin layer height you desire. Set Stacked Sparse Infill to 2 - every other layer. Basically same result as what you propose.

[Mimo]

Thanks Rick,

Just wondered what the stacked sparse infill means :)

Is there a way to get Infill overlap?

I tried to print the attached model but I could get only reasonable results using Cora (which I dont like for is support handling).

The top of the model did not look full and there were gaps between the perimeters and the infill, I believe Infil Overlap could have help to solve this.

[Bartlomiej Ceglik]

yes and no

- there is no option for set flow in layer that make infill

- it make in that configuration all yours shell not only prime => no time save

[frozen...@yahoo.com]

Infill overlap is under Printer>Hardware tab.

[Isaac Thompson]

Ability to make the bottom, flat, skin thickness separately from other skins. for example, say i want to print something with very low infill, with a large flat bottom, curvy top areas, and no raft. the flat bottom is going to print really well, even if it's only 2 layers thick, because it's starting out on a perfect surface. i've printed quite a few things lately where almost half the print time is taken up by printing just the lower surface, because i needed a thicker skin somewhere else (like on the top)

a lot of this can be taken care of by setting the skin thickness very low, and then increasing the number of loops, but it would be nice to be able to make the top surfaces a little thicker than what this method allows

[lonesock (Jonathan)]

Just a quick update: I am currently working on sequential printing.  It's more complicated than I had hoped, naturally.  (I am about 80% through what I had *hoped* to have to do, and about 40% through what I now expect to have to do [8^)   Then I am leaning toward brim, followed by an arbitrary top & bottom thickness setting.

Also, my wife has volunteered to help me and has joined this forum, bringing my attention to posts I miss, helping my memory, and in general just being an awesome wife!  I tend to only pop on the forum when I have something new to show off, which can take time.  But in the meantime, if you see 'Mrs. Lonesock' around, that's my better half!

Thanks,

Jonathan

[Jonathan Lawrence]

Infill that can be thicker walled and provide structural integrity.  For example I would like a only 5%-10% filled part, but with infill walls that are "x" number of loops thick, or a specific dimension thick.

I print parts that need strong and rigid.  A simple thick shell is not enough. The best current infill is octagonal where the traces are mostly overlapping every layer.  All other infills provide very poor layer adhesion inside the part.  

[Emile Wim]

Great! Those two options are what I miss the most in kisslicer!

What also would be nice, if it was possible to read the config settings of a kisslicer generated .gco file back into kisslicer.

But I don't know if there are other users that would find such an option usefull?

Emile

[Plamen Barzakov]

As far as I see this only works if the infill is less than 100%. Am I missing something?

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:21:08 PM UTC+3, Rick Zehr wrote:

[Plamen Barzakov]

And if you can give us more control on the support density it will be just great... what I really miss is solid top layers of the support, so I can get perfect surfaces when support is dissolved..

Thank you!

[sec master]

Hi Jonathan,
Another suggestion would be allow plugin e.g support plugin or infill pattern plugin
Such that people can build their own plugin and kisslicer will become more extensible

[Rick Zehr]

Excellent. 

I've been looking at Cura's support for sequential, and it seems like you almost have to allow the user to lay out the pieces, because every printer has a different amount of clearance for a gantry, smoothrods, or something above and near the extruder. 

[Konrad Schreiner]

If there is not already a way to lock different profiles, that would be a nice feature. In the way, that the values locked are greyed out. Having the profile open is great for tweaking, but at least I tend to unintentionally change the settings of working configurations... 

[k...@csscon.dk]

As using multiheads, for me it would be preferable if you could se used material of each extruder. gr cc og m is a bit "evindent" because anybody should be in able to calculate. Obvius it would be most userfriendly in gr. because it is the shortest way to veight the amount of left material.

I am aware that this is allmost neard-univers, but sometimes a vocabular, explanations about, for some, obvius things, and a collection of states allready given, could hold the "line" free off repeating evident questions.

You get exciting from the many posibilities, and want more, so a way to stop, between support generation and slicing, to edit the given support, or even just the possibility to remove some of the support things.

Greeting

[Rick Zehr]

My biggest current issue is that I have to manually ride the fan speed, because when KS starts the fan at the full set speed, it immediately confuses the PID extruder temperature setting, and the temp drops by 10-12C, then overshoots by 6-8C, then drops back again to well below the set speed, overshoots again, etc., until the PID averaging finally settles back down to the set speed.

I'd like to see a setting for percentage increase per layer for the extruder temperature (like that for the initial print speed increase) so the fan slowly ramps up to the set speed. This would allow the extruder temperature to stabilize with less extreme swings when the fan starts, and would give significantly better print quality on the first layers. Even if it were not settable, the fan should slowly ramp up at a slow rate over several layers to reduce temp swings.

[Lawrence LaRocque]

Joao if you click on the right hand side slider you can use the arrow keys on the keyboard to move later by layer

[ok pail]

On www.topolabs.com they show some nifty thinking: 

The question is simple: do we have to 'slice' only in horizontal layers... or are there other ways. 

For inspiration only ;-)

Regards,

Onno

[funBart]

Nice @ topolabs! 

Maybe nice to see something related I found at the Ultimaker group: 

Joris  has made a script to really print in 3D dimensions:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ultimaker/fL64GdN1VUs/qRAZgbBL6mAJ see the video as well to see how it's works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j40gCYFXdm8

Even more interesting IMO are the first test by him to print in the air. Really amazing. It mimics the way 3Doodler works, but steered by the printer.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ultimaker/IeJb2sZWKKk/h0O9t5quvLQJ

https://www.youmagine.com/designs/printing-in-3-dimensions-part-2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcefY6Lnt7E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1uTsJJ_f-8

(Joris as known from the Joris style printing as well: single extrusion Vase, the extrusion spiralising upwards, each segment a bit higher, not each layer)

Bart

[Markku Lehtola]

Hi,

my biggest problem currently:

Quite high (z) model with support, ABS..

support is too weak to hold because there's tension in the model and it gets bent little bit in many cases. So there should be option to make support really strong...I think the part of the support that is against the model is ok, but what's between raft and upper part of the support is sooo weak.

[Bunson Lui]

I would like to suggest a new structure of perimeter and infill to enhance contact surface between them.

Add one more parameter for "Number of Loops". Let say 4 and 2 loops. You will see following a demostration of new perimeter and infill structure.  That will dramatically increase contact surface. Therefore, stronger structure of model.

 

[garr...@gmail.com]

I would like this too. I suggested this to Slic3r's author a while ago but nothing has shown up in Slic3r yet. I think it would be a great feature. I think a minimum of two perimeters would be needed; that way infill always runs into one perimeter loop.