events.joomla.org

[Mike Carson]

Robert,
You mentioned that the events.joomla.org site is currently in the process of development.

Would you mind letting us know the following so that we know what's going on?

• Who is working on it?
• Are more volunteers needed to finish it faster? Can any of us help?
  
• Can we have a list of features this site will have? (it doesn't appear that there was much discussion with actual Joomla Day organizers regarding features)
• What resources and tools will be available to organizers?
• Do we need to create more documentation/tools for this site? Or are they already finished somewhere?
• What do you need from the rest of us in preparation of both launch and pre-lauch of this new site?
  

[Victor Drover]

I'm interested in this also.

[hagengraf]

I am interested too ...

[Laura Gordon]

Anything that I can do to help, please let me know.   I have run 2 joomladay events in NYC (2009, 2011), and I have run JoomlaCamp (2011), Installfest (2010) as well, which were smaller more local type  of events.

I have lists upon lists that could be shared with other group organizers, also a spreadsheet that I used for budgeting and running the event, I could easily create a 'blank one' for others to work off of.

Just let me know I would love to help.

thanks,
Laura

[brian teeman]

Laura can you look at the wiki and see if there is anything you can
add/edit/delete

[Brian P Sullivan]

I am confused about the rationale for proliferating yet another Joomla! subdomain. Is there a compelling reason why events can’t be more fully built out under the community subdomain? The more domains we add, the further away we get from the desire of the community for a universal login to all Joomla.org assets.

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[hagengraf]

fully agree
I think it would be much better to integrate all events related information in an existing environment.
And "community" fits of course best.

[brian teeman]

On a technical note while c.j.org is still on 1.5 then it wouldnt be possible to provide the acl requirements. Lets concentrate on getting the relevant information published and available and then this site will just be one of many that can join the PLT list of sites to be evaluated and considered for merging etc Personaly I wouldnt want to hold my breadth for any decision about sites from the plt and we need to get that information out now and available

[Brian P Sullivan]

Sorry, but isn’t that adding an additional layer of complexity? Why can’t we have events-dot as part of the information architecture of an appropriate existing Joomla! site? Especially as it is mostly JUGs that produce the events, I don’t right now see a good rationale for further fracture of our websites. Though—I can be convinced.

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[hagengraf]

Just two little question because it seems that it is already something defined
Which ACL requirements are defined?
What is the relevant information?

[hagengraf]

[brian teeman]

Hagen if you look at the original ideas for the site https://groups.google.com/d/topic/joomla-events/Mf6Tip17T8o/discussion you will see that it has both public parts and parts that are only relevant for event organisers and not for public consumption

[Mike Carson]

Guys I think we are getting WAYYYY off topic of my original post and questions I asked.
Obviously this is happening and there is nothing that can be changed about the fact that the site is in progress. Fine, let's move on.
The real questions are -  what is happening with this site? Who is involved?  What features will it have? Period.
Bickering about all this other stuff is trivial and really doesn't matter at this point and time.

[hagengraf]

thanks for the link, I missed that discussion totally.
When I understand it right it is already decided that a new site
http://events.joomla.org will be build by T.C.
... coming back to the original question from Mike ... :)
I am still interested in the answers to his questions.

And I still think it would be ... maybe more complicate ...but from a "Jumla" point of view much better to integrate the events list and the speaker list in the "community area" than build something new.

[Brian P Sullivan]

I’m sorry if this is a diversion from your original post, Mike, but how it happens matters to a larger picture and I am not backing off of that.

 

It is major complaint of our community that Joomla.org is an unwieldy set of sites which require multiple accounts, have no global search functions, and poorly purposed assets. For instance, where do you go on Joomla.org for support? How is a newcomer meant to know that People different from Community from Forum from Resources? Ad-hoc decisions without a global site strategy have resulted in the default creation of among the largest and most complex sites in the world and this presents a major barrier to entry for newbies.

 

So forgive me if I am extremely reluctant to see us add to that problem without thoughtful consideration. I think there are fine places to prominently locate our increasing numbers of events without adding to the complexity facing our increasing numbers of new Joomla! users. Before we put yet another subdomain up, I want to know it’s necessary.

 

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Guys I think we are getting WAYYYY off topic of my original post and questions I asked.

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[Mike Carson]

Mr. Sullivan, I am not saying you cannot discuss your issues, however THIS topic, and the event team list is not the place to raise concerns of site segregation and single sign-on issues. Perhaps you should post about these types of issues in a more appropriate place.
Your issues have nothing to do with the topic of this discussion and the questions I have raised.
We aren't here to talk about the other Joomla.org suite of websites.
The topic is about THIS website and ONLY this website and its features. This is the site we want to know answers about. Not the rest.
Not sure what is so hard to understand about that.
Perhaps you would be better focusing your attention of your concern to the Joomla.org site redesign team. you would have more impact there and speak to the actual people that can address your concerns.

[TJ Baker]

Thanks for keeping the discussion alive Mike et al!

As for what's been done - I've installed Joomla, and was awaiting some followup for items that I was asked to install for security etc.  I should have the site fully ready to be developed by the end of the day, and will start adding access for those who wish to work on it.

What we need is to get a list going of exactly what we're going to put on the site, perhaps with goals for 'phases' of implementation, and get started developing.

I really like the ideas that Justin presented as an 'overall' idea of what we hope to accomplish:

1) Promote all upcoming J! events
2) An archive of past J! events (i.e. historical timeline) 
3) Documentation for event organizers (like Brian and Mike mentioned) 

 

Also like the idea of having a directory of speakers and individual 
profiles for each where speakers can display which events they spoke 
at etc.

What else? 

I think that first and foremost the idea of getting searchable JDay / Joomla Events up and running should be our focus, with the other items coming  even after we get the site launched ... unless anyone feels otherwise?

Does anyone object to us using an actual system to manage a project, so that we can set goals, tasks, assign things / let people assign themselves etc?  Or does this need to continue to be done via a google group?  

You'll have to forgive me, I am not a fan of google groups for managing things that need to get done, as it seems to me that all that gets done in google groups is talking .... BUT, if we must use this system then so be it :)

[hagengraf]

I can offer a group in our intranet.
Disclaimer: It's Open Atrium :)
If you agree - register here http://intranet.cocoate.com/user/register
I will add you to a group tomorrow - now time to sleep.

[Justin Herrin]

Glad to see that the site is moving forward. I'd love to pitch in and
contribute where I can. Unfortunately I don't have experience (yet!)
in running or hosting a J!Day event, but I do have event planning
experience in general. And the historical timeline aspect of the site
certainly interests me!

Cheers all,
Justin

[Robert Deutz]

We have a basecamp account we can use organizing the work.

Cheers,
Robert

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[Mike Carson]

Let's use base camp. That's a really good system.

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[Robert Deutz]

Hi Mike,

Hi all,

some answers are already made I will add my thoughts between the lines :-)

Cheers,

Robert

Am 17.11.2011 um 19:50 schrieb Mike Carson:

Robert,
You mentioned that the events.joomla.org site is currently in the process of development.

Would you mind letting us know the following so that we know what's going on?

• Who is working on it?

I spoke with TJ about this on this years JAB and I have asked him some weeks ago to take the lead on this. Main goals for the site are:

* Directory of events (first Joomla!Day, but later also Joomla!nights, Joomla!whatever, maybe JUG meetings, ....)
* Directory of speakers/presentations
* Not sure but might be an option, a directory of sponsors

• Are more volunteers needed to finish it faster? Can any of us help?
  

I think yes, but I'll let this in TJ hands how and when he will involve more people.

• Can we have a list of features this site will have? (it doesn't appear that there was much discussion with actual Joomla Day organizers regarding features)

There was an option to voice opinions, some did, but nothing is build in stone. I'm a fan of starting small and extending later.

• What resources and tools will be available to organizers?

That depends on what we all produce.

• Do we need to create more documentation/tools for this site? Or are they already finished somewhere?

We had already started to document some things here: http://docs.joomla.org/How_to_Organize_a_Joomla!Day feel free to add whatever you find useful.

• What do you need from the rest of us in preparation of both launch and pre-lauch of this new site?
  

Also something for TJ tolist.

Cheers,

Robert

[hagengraf]

How can I join our basecamp group?


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> We have a basecamp account we can use organizing the work.
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> Cheers,
> Robert
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> Am 18.11.2011 um 00:50 schrieb hagengraf:
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> > I can offer a group in our intranet.
> > Disclaimer: It's Open Atrium :)

> > If you agree - register herehttp://intranet.cocoate.com/user/register

[TJ Baker]

Basecamp works! What are the details of the account so we can all join up?

Cheers,

tj

[TJ Baker]

Ok, so we have a Basecamp project set up for us to use.

I think we should keep the discussion going here for ideas etc, but
would like to get those who want to help develop the site added to the
project so we can get to work building it out.

I think it would be wonderful to shoot for a launch right around the
new year, if we can make that happen?

Please let me know if you are interested in doing work on the site,
and I'll get you added. For the sake of sanity, we'll want to keep
the list of people working on the site small, however, all are
welcomed to continue in the discussion of ideas / wishes etc.

[Mike Carson]

TJ, I am interested.

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[Hagen Graf]

I want to join the group!
Please add me :)

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[TJ Baker]

Thanks guys!

I'll need your preferred email address for setting up Basecamp
access. Once in the project I'll get you added to the site as well.

Anyone else who wants to help, please be sure to provide you're
preferred email address .. if you wish to keep it private feel free to
send to me via skype @ tj.baker or email tj.b...@zaridan.com

Cheers!

[Robert Deutz]

Hi TJ,

Hagen has already a account I can add him to the project, should I?

Cheers,
Robert

[TJ Baker]

Hi Robert,

Yes, please do add Hagen, as well as Mike and Brian Sullivan if they are already in the system?

Thanks Robert!

tj

[Guillermo Willin Bravo]

Hi TJ

I can help too... Also can help spreading the word in spanish :)

Kind Regards from Chile

Guillermo "Willin" Bravo

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[Laura Gordon]

I would be interested in assisting in any way that I can. I
coordinated the joomladays in NYC in 2009 and 2011...

I have lots of lists, documentation, and sample budgets that could be
used for other coordinators.

thanks,
-- Laura

[Pixel Praise]

Hello and thank you for allowing the pleasure to become part of this discussion.  Kyle and I planned Joomla Day Austin this September.  Although, I have experience planning events it was my first Joomla Day and an events website would have been helpful.  Thank you Mike for taking the time to provide a few pointers during the planning process. 

With regards to the site, allowing users to select type of event is useful (Joomla Days, Meetups, Training Classes, etc).  There are many trainers who post on their own sites, meetups, etc but it'd be nice to see an official list of classes by region.  Make sense?  See http://groups.drupal.org/event  Don't hate, just throwing thoughts out there and wishing I were a programmer.  ;)

I'd be happy to assist with documentation if help is needed.

Regards,
Mel

[Mike Carson]

I guess since I opened my big mouth (be careful what you ask for LOL) I will be answering my own questions soon.
I would think in about another week we should have detailed answers to the questions that I have asked at the beginning of this thread.
We should also have a better understanding of the exact types of documentations and resources that we will need contributions/suggestions from the community.

If not myself, someone from the site building team will be able to answer all these questions soon. We are still working out some ideas.
Just to note, the site has not been officially started yet as of this posting.

Thanks
Mike

[saurabh ds16]

I am interested in this too. Is there any preview to see about the site  http://events.joomla.org/  or screenshot ? 

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[Mike Carson]

Saurabh,
As I already stated, there is no site to show yet at this point. We have just begun official planning stages.

[saurabh ds16]

Ya got it :-)

I can get the designs done if u want and we can make the site better than any other CMS events site / pages ;)

[Mike Carson]

We will be using the newly redesigned template that is being used on Joomla.org so the site is consistent. Kyle has told me that he already sent it to TJ for this site.

 

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[zhous1998@gmail]

Wow, what a good news!

 

Derek Joe

[Pixel Praise]

I'm sure the Joomla community will make the site look super great.  Sometimes it's not about being better than other CMS's, it's about what best for the people and that's what makes us better.  Love our designers ;).  Thanks for getting this together.    

[Justin Herrin]

Hello Mike and the events site crew,

Just wondering if there was a plan to add in the "events archive" portion to the new events site? I don't care about all the past JUG meetups, but the Joomla Days and conferences for sure...

http://docs.joomla.org/index.php?title=Joomla!Days&oldid=66872

Thanks for all the hard work and efforts put into the new site!

Justin

[Mike Carson]

Justin,
I have just added this to our suggested features list.
We will definitely be adding additional enhancements for the events website as time and resources permit.

Regards,
Mike

[Twahir Mohamed]

Good job,
But you.forgot to add joomladay nairobi.kenya held on the march 16th 2012.
Regards
Twahir

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Justin,
I have just added this to our suggested features list.
We will definitely be adding additional enhancements for the events website as time and resources permit.

Regards,
Mike

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[Mike Carson]

No we did not "forget" anything. We have not added any past events to the system. Only new events have been added by the community.
Addition of already past Jdays will be discussed soon by the events team.

On Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:33:03 AM UTC-5, Twahir Mohamed wrote:

Good job,
But you.forgot to add joomladay nairobi.kenya held on the march 16th 2012.
Regards
Twahir

[Twahir Mohamed]

Ok mike thanks

On 10 May 2012 18:56, "Mike Carson" <mi...@itdwebdesign.com> wrote:

No we did not "forget" anything. We have not added any past events to the system. Only new events have been added by the community.
Addition of already past Jdays will be discussed soon by the events team.

On Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:33:03 AM UTC-5, Twahir Mohamed wrote:

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> Good job,
> But you.forgot to add joomladay nairobi.kenya held on the march 16th 2012.

> Regard...

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>> Justin,

>> I have just added this to our su...

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[Justin Herrin]

Great, thanks Mike! And if you guys need any assistance with data entry or tracking down venue data, etc. just let me know. I'd be glad to help wherever needed.

Take care,

Justin

[Mike Carson]

Hey Justin, thanks for volunteering. Go ahead and do that. No take backs now, too late, you are assigned to this task. LOL ;-)
Just let us know when you have the data assembled and ready.

Thanks
Mike

[Yves Zieba]

I am intererested in this too and would like to organise the Joomla! day in Switzerland.

Le jeudi 17 novembre 2011 19:50:32 UTC+1, Mike Carson a écrit :

Robert,
You mentioned that the events.joomla.org site is currently in the process of development.

Would you mind letting us know the following so that we know what's going on?

• Who is working on it?
• Are more volunteers needed to finish it faster? Can any of us help?
  
• Can we have a list of features this site will have? (it doesn't appear that there was much discussion with actual Joomla Day organizers regarding features)
• What resources and tools will be available to organizers?
• Do we need to create more documentation/tools for this site? Or are they already finished somewhere?
• What do you need from the rest of us in preparation of both launch and pre-lauch of this new site?
  

[Justin Herrin]

Be sure to read through the Event Resources List on the Joomla Events website:

http://events.joomla.org/event-resources-list.html

Lots of good information on there for event organizers.