Berlin 29.8.2020 Huge demonstration against the Corona-Dictatorship

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Children who died of Covid-19 were already seriously ill, new study shows
Ross Clark
It has been clear from the start of the Covid-19 crisis – from Wuhan’s experience, before cases were confirmed in Britain – that it was a disease with relatively little impact on children. A broad study led by Liverpool University and published in the British Medical Journal today confirms that – and sheds a lot more light on how Covid-19 affects children. The study looks at data from 260 hospitals in England, Scotland and Wales, to which 69,516 patients were admitted with Covid symptoms between 17 January and 3 July. Of these, 651 were aged under 19 and 225 were aged under 12 months. Serious underlying medical conditions were present in 42 per cent of the children.

Most were successfully treated on hospital wards but 116 went on to be admitted to critical care and 58 ended up on mechanical ventilation. In 52 cases, the patients were judged to be suffering from Multi-System Inflammatory Syndrome associated with Covid-19 (MIS-C), a condition similar to Kawasaki disease and Toxic Shock Syndrome, that was first identified in London hospitals in March. Six children went on to die. Three were aged under 28 days, had been born very premature and had complex congenital anomalies and bacterial sepsis. The other three who died were in the 15-18 age bracket, two of whom had profound neurodisabilities which compromised their respiratory systems. The other had a suppressed immune system as a result of cancer treatment and was also suffering from bacterial sepsis. No children without a serious comorbidity of an additional illness died, and neither did any child between the ages of 28 days and 15 years. However, the age group 10–14 years was over-represented among those admitted to critical care.

As in the adult population, males were more at risk of being hospitalised than females – boys made up 56 per cent of those admitted to hospital. Ethnic minorities, too, were over-represented, with 12 per cent of those hospitalised from South Asian ethnicity and 10 per cent of black ethnicity. By comparison, 4.7 per cent of children in England and Wales and one per cent of children in Scotland are black. The symptoms suffered by children who were hospitalised varied a little from the symptoms reported in adults. Only 39 per cent had a cough. Fever was present in 70 per cent of cases, nausea/vomiting in 32 per cent and shortness of breath in 30 per cent. Those who went on to be admitted to critical care were especially likely to present with three symptoms: diarrhoea, conjunctivitis and altered consciousness/confusion.

Those who required critical care were especially likely to have been in hospital several days before they showed symptoms – suggesting that, in their case, Covid might have been a hospital-acquired infection. Coming just before schools are set to return to full-time teaching next week, the study is bound to be taken up by those arguing on both sides of the debate. The study shows that children are not immune from Covid-19, but the chances of them getting seriously ill are extremely rare and deaths vanishingly small.

(28 August 2020, Spectator)

[Ross Clark is a British journalist and author whose work has appeared in The Spectator, The Times and other publications. He is the author of several books, including How to Label a Goat: the silly Rules and Regulations that are strangling Britain and The Great Before, a novel which satirised the pessimism of the green movement. He is a frequent critic of British government policy, especially on its interventions in the housing market. ]

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Many thanks for posting this important article. It reinforces the crucial knowledge that Covid-19 is nothing like the predatory killer it has been portrayed as in the mainstream.

It would be important to know what initial treatment was given to the 116 children who had been in hospital wards prior to being moved to critical care - and whether it is possible that the initial treatment itself, or some factor within the hospital environment, may have contributed to their worsening condition, and in particular to the three conditions listed: diarrhoea, conjunctivitis and altered consciousness.

In the light of other studies which have shown a greater susceptibility to Covid infection in those who have previously received the ’normal’ winter flu vaccine, it would also be important to know which, if any,  of the children had been previously vaccinated, and if so which vaccines had been administered. 

Earlier this evening I read a brief post - actually little more than a headline - on the GreenMed website to the effect that the CDC had just drastically reduced the number of deaths directly attributed to Covid:

"The CDC surreptitiously updated their COVID-19 death statistics on August 26th, revealing that less than 10k of the so-called 'COVID-19 deaths" were actually caused solely by the virus”.

Perhaps we can expect more ‘downgradings’ of Covid lethality in the days and weeks to come - or perhaps not, as this would be far too embarrassing for certain parties.

What yesterday’s large rallies in Berlin and London have shown is that there is a growing wave of rebellion towards the authoritarian handling of the pandemic and the mainstream media’s over-dramatisation of the threat.

Millions are waking up to the realisation that fear has been, and continues to be, used as a psychological weapon. The same is true of the way the alleged existential threat from a non-existent ‘anthropogenic’ global warming was used to instil fear, especially among young people.

Kind regards,

Paul

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How is it indeed that anyone can be so antiscientific and in fact cynical to believe that Covid is some sort of figment or even a ploy by Capitalists/Dictators/Whoever visited upon the populace.  Such an insane waste of progressive intelligence to concoct such abject nonsense.  It is accurate to say that in fact powerful entities- governments, empires, the ultrarich take advantage of natural calamities and tragedies to further their consolidation of wealth and power but to suggest therefore that the natural disasters or epidemics are therefore false or an elaborate hoax is just irresponsible.  



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""non-existent" anthropogenic global warming".  Anyone who says such things should be dismissed as a hack immediately.  A dangerous one at that.


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I fully agree with Romi. Those who are demonstrating in the US and now in Europe belong mostly to the right who have some individual centred notion of freedom that speaks against collective responsibility and the greater common good etc. That being said of course we should guard against the heavy-handedness of the state and the way it might use such pandemics to stifle dissent and push through policies bypassing discussion and public participation.

Ajit

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How is it indeed that anyone can be so antiscientific and in fact cynical to believe that Covid is some sort of figment or even a ploy by Capitalists/Dictators/Whoever visited upon the populace.  Such an insane waste of progressive intelligence to concoct such abject nonsense.  It is accurate to say that in fact powerful entities- governments, empires, the ultrarich take advantage of natural calamities and tragedies to further their consolidation of wealth and power but to suggest therefore that the natural disasters or epidemics are therefore false or an elaborate hoax is just irresponsible.  



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Dear folks and dear Ajit,

The claim that the demonstrators in Europe are « mostly to the right » is untrue. In Berlin hundreds of thousands of demonstrators against the Corona-Dictatorship came from all walks of life and all political colours, including socialists, communists and liberals. In such a movement it is not possible to exclude people who bring in right-wing ideology. They are entitled, like anyone else, to oppose the dictatorship and should even be encouraged to do so. Anyone willing to stand against a police state is welcome to the protest.

There is an inherent confusion in the demand for discussion and public participation in the context of dictatorship. It is precisely the dictatorship that must be abolished in order to permit democratic debate. It is impossible to debate with state authorities who stand above you with a gun.

Elias

Felix Padel

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It's horribly true that most of those visibly objecting to face masks and denying the pandemic are on the far right like Trump. This is why the Left in most countries has capitulated so easily to the new medically justified power structure, even tho Lockdowns are used for unspeakable abrogation of rights. In India as other countries, demonstrations were in full force, all stopped and now protestors arrested in large numbers. This is I fear why the conspiracy is so clever! Conspiracy is a loaded word now. But no one denies the CIA for example has always worked thro conspiracies, and this has become normal for intelligence agencies if every land.... 


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The following email using the above ID of prodi...@gmail.com was sent inadvertently without completing the text, by Joya Roy of New Delhi, India. It reflects my views on the hidden agendas of simulating pandemics before deliberately releasing them on the global population for a.variety of undisclosed ends. 

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 15:33 Prodipto Roy, <prodi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm a reasonably intelligent person and have seen enough evidence in the form of US govt documents of the role of some US universities, big pharma and the Gates' Foundation as well as Fauci in supporting 'gain of function' experiments on SARS-1Corona virus in Wuhan's BSL4 Lab. Trump and his right aligned media friends are flogging the 'Chinese Virus' story as if the US and several other countries including India weren't doing similar bio-weapons research. Millions of US taxpayer's money is known to have been funnelled into Wuhan by Fauci's team after Congress outlawed such research on US soil as 'too dangerous'. Thus it's now easy for the US to say that the lethal bio-engineered mutant 'escaped' from the lab, for the US and whoever it is who really makes its policies to blame China for imposing the deadly virus and the harshest public order regimes on world populations since WWII, for 'their own safety and well-being'!

That it was indeed probably pre-planned is evident from the convening by Gates' Foundation, the WEF, and John Hopkins U. of Event201, a pandemic simulation exercise involving governments, UN agencies, business, media and pharma houses, held in NY in the October 2019, a month before the first Covid-like case appeared in the news. Then, there are different genetic strains in different countries and RNA of HIV and another pathogen in the SARS2 Covid affected cells of patients in many countries. We also know how IT companies dominate the world these days and that the earlier suggestion of 30' social distancing that was reduced to 6' later was prompted by Google to better carry out surveillance of population through satellites. 

As far as conspiracy theories or rather, cover ups go, many YouTubers have linked the severity of the pandemic with the roll-out of 5G networks around the world. Wuhan had the densest 5G deployment in November 2019. Iran had just installed it, no doubt for surveillance purposes. It was alleged that the Spanish flu of 1918 coincided with the installation of radars during WWI around the world, creating new electro-magnetic fields that living bodies take time to adjust to rendering them vulnerable to immunity loss and subsequent disease

The progress of Covid19 in India which does not have 5G yet could well be due to mismanagement of its containment by health authorities, much delayed and inadequate testing, no preparation of well-equipped health facilities to deal with a pandemic, undetected pre-existing co-morbidities and malnutrition rates, a vast illiterate or semi-literate rural population that doesn't have access to news of any kind and the flow of millions of desperate migrant labour from cities under lockdown to their homes in other states.

Elias Davidsson

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Has anyone factual evidence that « most of those visibly objecting to face masks » are « on the far right »? There is, however, evidence that some far right groups have been encouraged by the police to demonstrate in order to feed media images of « right wing hoodlooms" and discredit the entire democratic movement. Mass media desperately need such images in order to maintain the public in ignorance that there is a huge democratic movement.

Please don’t disseminate here mainstream propaganda. The claim that « most » of the mask objectors are « on the far right » is unsubstantiated and constitutes slander on a huge democratic movement that opposes the growing totalitarian society. I live in Germany. Two of the main internet platforms supporting the demonstration are Ken FM and Rubikon News. Neither can be labeled « right », let alone « far right ». These platforms are part of the democratic movement, that is committed to social justice, peace and human rights. I cannot vouch for other countries. The claim of the author is certainly not applicable to Germany.

Elias Davidsson

Ajit Menon

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I guess the question then is was the dictatorship not already there? Or did the virus suddenly create it? Regarding who is involved you probably know more. But what i see is lots of people talking about freedom in a very liberal individualistic way.

Ajit

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Here are more air pictures of the Berlin demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1OEPd_jSxA

Elias Davidsson

Prodipto Roy

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I'm a reasonably intelligent person and have seen enough evidence in the form of US govt documents of the role of some US universities, big pharma and the Gates' Foundation as well as Fauci in supporting 'gain of function' experiments on SARS-1Corona virus in Wuhan's BSL4 Lab. Trump and his right aligned media friends are flogging the 'Chinese Virus' story as if the US and several other countries including India weren't doing similar bio-weapons research. Millions of US taxpayer's money is known to have been funnelled into Wuhan by Fauci's team after Congress outlawed such research on US soil as 'too dangerous'. Thus it's now easy for the US to say that the lethal bio-engineered mutant 'escaped' from the lab, for the US and whoever it is who really makes its policies to blame China for imposing the deadly virus and the harshest public order regimes on world populations since WWII, for 'their own safety and well-being'!

That it was indeed probably pre-planned is evident from the convening by Gates' Foundation, the WEF, and John Hopkins U. of Event201, a pandemic simulation exercise involving governments, UN agencies, business, media and pharma houses, held in NY in the October 2019, a month before the first Covid-like case appeared in the news. Then, there are different genetic strains in different countries and RNA of HIV and another pathogen in the SARS2 Covid affected cells of patients in many countries. We also know how IT companies dominate the world these days and that the earlier suggestion of 30' social distancing that was reduced to 6' later was prompted by Google to better carry out surveillance of population through satellites. 

As far as conspiracy theories or rather, cover ups go, many YouTubers have linked the severity of the pandemic with the roll-out of 5G networks around the world. Wuhan had the densest 5G deployment in November 2019. Iran had just installed it, no doubt for surveillance purposes. It was alleged that the Spanish flu of 1918 coincided with the installation of radars during WWI around the world, creating new electro-magnetic fields that living bodies take time to adjust to rendering them vulnerable to immunity loss and subsequent disease

The progress of Covid19 in India which does not have 5G yet could well be due to mismanagement of its containment by health authorities, much delayed and inadequate testing, no preparation of well-equipped health facilities to deal with a pandemic, undetected pre-existing co-morbidities and malnutrition rates, a vast illiterate or semi-literate rural population that doesn't have access to news of any kind and the flow of millions of desperate migrant labour from cities under lockdown to their homes in other states.

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Paul Carline

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Dear Romi,

please consider for a moment the track record of the WHO and people like Anthony Fauci and Neil Ferguson in relation to ‘pandemics’

If we consider only the supposed “swine flu pandemic’ of 2009 - which killed relatively few people worldwide (but resulted in thousands of young people becoming crippled with narcolepsy as a direct consequence of their having been given a dangerous vaccine) - it is striking that the WHO was only able to declare a pandemic because its director, Margaret Chan, had shortly before announced a change to the definition of a pandemic, removing the criterion of large-scale mortality.

There is at least a justified suspicion that the WHO knew beforehand that a new - and supposedly deadly - pandemic was coming. Agreements had already been signed between all governments and various vaccine makers. The lucrative agreements would only come into effect once a ‘pandemic’ was declared.

The vaccine makers made a killing (literally for some people, as in Sweden). Only one health minister - that of Poland - refused to comply, saving her country millions. She stated correctly that she had seen no evidence of a pandemic.

What is far worse, however, is the fact that an attempt was made - under the auspices of the WHO - to ’spike’ the H1N1 vaccine with live bird flu virus. Had this conspiracy not been discovered (‘by chance’ - or perhaps, more accurately, by the grace of God), there could have been enormous numbers of deaths - which would presumably have been attributed to the virus.

There is a trail of (deliberately?) exaggerated, fear-mongering, predictions of mass casualties from sudden, supposedly ’naturally occurring’ diseases, especially viruses; all of them ‘coincidentally’ involving Neil Ferguson and/or Anthony Fauci.

There is abundant evidence that the Covid-19 pandemic - and the immensely destructive measures which followed - were pre-planned. I believe one would have to be very naive not to see that evidence - such as Event 201, the WEF preparations etc, in fact the whole sequence of events and published material on the plans of the globalists, going back at least to 1972 and the Club of Rome’s “Limits to Growth” - which included the mass population reduction proposal now being pushed especially by Bill Gates.

Simply put, it is impossible to assert with any certainty that this latest pandemic was a ’natural’ event. Preparations for such an event can be traced back at least to 2007 and perhaps earlier. The term ’social distancing’ was in use from at least 2004, though its exact provenance is not clear.

There is credible suspicion that Covid-19 was bio-engineered - possibly at Fort Detrick - from where it could have been taken to Wuhan - and released - by members of the American military contingent to the World Military Games. Two members of that contingent fell ill during their time in Wuhan. Shortly before that, Fort Detrick had been shut down for reasons that have not been revealed.

If one simply looks at how the deliberate creation of fear - through the invention of a terrifying ‘external enemy’-  has been used again and again to advance a political, geo-political, social or economic agenda, it seems ‘unscientific’ to dismiss the possibility that Covid-19 was the latest in that long line (and that we can reasonably expect there to be more - especially as the ‘elites’ will now be looking for ways to crush the burgeoning resistance to their evil designs).

Kind regards,

Paul



On 30 Aug 2020, at 23:12, romi mahajan <ro...@thekkmgroup.com> wrote:

How is it indeed that anyone can be so antiscientific and in fact cynical to believe that Covid is some sort of figment or even a ploy by Capitalists/Dictators/Whoever visited upon the populace.  Such an insane waste of progressive intelligence to concoct such abject nonsense.  It is accurate to say that in fact powerful entities- governments, empires, the ultrarich take advantage of natural calamities and tragedies to further their consolidation of wealth and power but to suggest therefore that the natural disasters or epidemics are therefore false or an elaborate hoax is just irresponsible.  



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Esteemed colleagues:

Let us be clear that the coronavirus is real. It is  contagious and spreads like familiar viruses including influenza. It has a relatively high case fatality ratio of 2.5-3%. All this should cause concern and we must collectively develop protocols to minimize its spread and loss of human life to the extent possible. However, this virus has made governments opt for lockdown as a common protocol which needs review. Associated problems such as loss of wages, compulsory relocations, inadequate quarantine (particularly for those with limited means), and indifference of the governments towards enabling the poor to survive cannot be ignored and we must redraw our plans of how to tackle the problems without causing asymmetric disadvantages. Let us not take a sectarian view of the pandemic.


Pramod Yadava



On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:32 AM romi mahajan <ro...@thekkmgroup.com> wrote:
How is it indeed that anyone can be so antiscientific and in fact cynical to believe that Covid is some sort of figment or even a ploy by Capitalists/Dictators/Whoever visited upon the populace.  Such an insane waste of progressive intelligence to concoct such abject nonsense.  It is accurate to say that in fact powerful entities- governments, empires, the ultrarich take advantage of natural calamities and tragedies to further their consolidation of wealth and power but to suggest therefore that the natural disasters or epidemics are therefore false or an elaborate hoax is just irresponsible.  



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Where is my letter to you written today under the.above ID name?
Joya Roy
New Delhi

romi mahajan

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Well-put.  Indeed, one can only speculate as to the motives of anyone who dismisses its "realness."  The "Left" loves to hang itself with the chains of "revolution" it attempts to forge.  Conspiracies and concoctions are unnecessary deus ex machinas always introduced by people who have no particular commitment to the truth.

Medha Patkar

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thanks for this inspring news......

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Frederick Noronha

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There are a lot of extreme Right ideologues who are pushing their own fundamentalism and agendas through the pandemic -- from Bolsonario to Trump and others. At the same time, the cashing in on it to tighten (often arbitrary and sometimes even unscientific) restrictions on the citizen is also very real. But the piece below strikes me as anything but a conspiracy theory....  Let me know if you agree. FN

Journalism’s Gates keepers (Tim Schwab, cpr.org)

Frederick Noronha <frederic...@gmail.com>

Sun, 23 Aug, 04:17 (9 days ago)
 

Journalism’s Gates keepers

By Tim Schwab

AUGUST 21, 2020
Bill Gates, chairman of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, in 2019. Samuel Habtab/AP Photo

LAST AUGUST, NPR PROFILED A HARVARD-LED EXPERIMENT to help low-income families find housing in wealthier neighborhoods, giving their children access to better schools and an opportunity to “break the cycle of poverty.” According to researchers cited in the article, these children could see $183,000 greater earnings over their lifetimes—a striking forecast for a housing program still in its experimental stage.

If you squint as you read the story, you’ll notice that every quoted expert is connected to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which helps fund the project. And if you’re really paying attention, you’ll also see the editor’s note at the end of the story, which reveals that NPR itself receives funding from Gates.

NPR’s funding from Gates “was not a factor in why or how we did the story,” reporter Pam Fessler says, adding that her reporting went beyond the voices quoted in her article. The story, nevertheless, is one of hundreds NPR has reported about the Gates Foundation or the work it funds, including myriad favorable pieces written from the perspective of Gates or its grantees.

And that speaks to a larger trend—and ethical issue—with billionaire philanthropists’ bankrolling the news. The Broad Foundation, whose philanthropic agenda includes promoting charter schools, at one point funded part of the LA Times’ reporting on education. Charles Koch has made charitable donations to journalistic institutions such as the Poynter Institute, as well as to news outlets such as the Daily Caller, that support his conservative politics. And the Rockefeller Foundation funds Vox’s Future Perfect, a reporting project that examines the world “through the lens of effective altruism”—often looking at philanthropy.

As philanthropists increasingly fill in the funding gaps at news organizations—a role that is almost certain to expand in the media downturn following the coronavirus pandemic—an underexamined worry is how this will affect the ways newsrooms report on their benefactors. Nowhere does this concern loom larger than with the Gates Foundation, a leading donor to newsrooms and a frequent subject of favorable news coverage.

I recently examined nearly twenty thousand charitable grants the Gates Foundation had made through the end of June and found more than $250 million going toward journalism. Recipients included news operations like the BBC, NBC, Al Jazeera, ProPublicaNational JournalThe Guardian, Univision, Medium, the Financial TimesThe Atlantic, the Texas Tribune, Gannett, Washington MonthlyLe Monde, and the Center for Investigative Reporting; charitable organizations affiliated with news outlets, like BBC Media Action and the New York Times’ Neediest Cases Fund; media companies such as Participant, whose documentary Waiting for “Superman” supports Gates’s agenda on charter schools; journalistic organizations such as the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, the National Press Foundation, and the International Center for Journalists; and a variety of other groups creating news content or working on journalism, such as the Leo Burnett Company, an ad agency that Gates commissioned to create a “news site” to promote the success of aid groups. In some cases, recipients say they distributed part of the funding as subgrants to other journalistic organizations—which makes it difficult to see the full picture of Gates’s funding into the fourth estate. 

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The foundation even helped fund a 2016 report from the American Press Institute that was used to develop guidelines on how newsrooms can maintain editorial independence from philanthropic funders. A top-level finding: “There is little evidence that funders insist on or have any editorial review.” Notably, the study’s underlying survey data showed that nearly a third of funders reported having seen at least some content they funded before publication.

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Gates’s generosity appears to have helped foster an increasingly friendly media environment for the world’s most visible charity. Twenty years ago, journalists scrutinized Bill Gates’s initial foray into philanthropy as a vehicle to enrich his software company, or a PR exercise to salvage his battered reputation following Microsoft’s bruising antitrust battle with the Department of Justice. Today, the foundation is most often the subject of soft profiles and glowing editorials describing its good works. 

During the pandemic, news outlets have widely looked to Bill Gates as a public health expert on covid—even though Gates has no medical training and is not a public official. PolitiFact and USA Today (run by the Poynter Institute and Gannett, respectively—both of which have received funds from the Gates Foundation) have even used their fact-checking platforms to defend Gates from “false conspiracy theories” and “misinformation,” like the idea that the foundation has financial investments in companies developing covid vaccines and therapies. In fact, the foundation’s website and most recent tax forms clearly show investments in such companies, including Gilead and CureVax. 

In the same way that the news media has given Gates an outsize voice in the pandemic, the foundation has long used its charitable giving to shape the public discourse on everything from global health to education to agriculture—a level of influence that has landed Bill Gates on Forbes’s list of the most powerful people in the world. The Gates Foundation can point to important charitable accomplishments over the past two decades—like helping drive down polio and putting new funds into fighting malaria—but even these efforts have drawn expert detractors who say that Gates may actually be introducing harm, or distracting us from more important, lifesaving public health projects.

From virtually any of Gates’s good deeds, reporters can also find problems with the foundation’s outsize power, if they choose to look. But readers don’t hear these critical voices in the news as often or as loudly as Bill and Melinda’s. News about Gates these days is often filtered through the perspectives of the many academics, nonprofits, and think tanks that Gates funds. Sometimes it is delivered to readers by newsrooms with financial ties to the foundation.

The Gates Foundation declined multiple interview requests for this story and would not provide its own accounting of how much money it has put toward journalism. 

In response to questions sent via email, a spokesperson for the foundation said that a “guiding principle” of its journalism funding is “ensuring creative and editorial independence.” The spokesperson also noted that, because of financial pressures in journalism, many of the issues the foundation works on “do not get the in-depth, consistent media coverage they once did.… When well-respected media outlets have an opportunity to produce coverage of under-researched and under-reported issues, they have the power to educate the public and encourage the adoption and implementation of evidence-based policies in both the public and private sectors.”

As CJR was finalizing its fact check of this article, the Gates Foundation offered a more pointed response: “Recipients of foundation journalism grants have been and continue to be some of the most respected journalism outlets in the world.… The line of questioning for this story implies that these organizations have compromised their integrity and independence by reporting on global health, development, and education with foundation funding. We strongly dispute this notion.”

The foundation’s response also volunteered other ties it has to the news media, including “participating in dozens of conferences, such as the Perugia Journalism Festival, the Global Editors Network, or the World Conference of Science Journalism,” as well as “help[ing] build capacity through the likes of the Innovation in Development Reporting fund.”

The full scope of Gates’s giving to the news media remains unknown because the foundation only publicly discloses money awarded through charitable grants, not through contracts. In response to questions, Gates only disclosed one contract—Vox’s—but did describe how some of this contract money is spent: producing sponsored content, and occasionally funding “non-media nonprofit entities to support efforts such as journalist trainings, media convenings, and attendance at events.”

In the same way that the news media has given Gates an outsize voice in the pandemic, the foundation has long used its charitable giving to shape the public discourse on everything from global health to education to agriculture.

Over the years, reporters have investigated the apparent blind spots in how the news media covers the Gates Foundation, though such reflective reporting has waned in recent years. In 2015, Vox ran an article examining the widespread uncritical journalistic coverage surrounding the foundation—coverage that comes even as many experts and scholars raise red flags. Vox didn’t cite Gates’s charitable giving to newsrooms as a contributing factor, nor did it address Bill Gates’s month-long stint as guest editor for The Verge, a Vox subsidiary, earlier that year. Still, the news outlet did raise critical questions about journalists’ tendency to cover the Gates Foundation as a dispassionate charity instead of a structure of power. 

Five years earlier, in 2010, CJR published a two-part series that examined, in part, the millions of dollars going toward PBS NewsHour, which it found to reliably avoid critical reporting on Gates

In 2011, the Seattle Times detailed concerns over the ways in which Gates Foundation funding might hamper independent reporting: 

To garner attention for the issues it cares about, the foundation has invested millions in training programs for journalists. It funds research on the most effective ways to craft media messages. Gates-backed think tanks turn out media fact sheets and newspaper opinion pieces. Magazines and scientific journals get Gates money to publish research and articles. Experts coached in Gates-funded programs write columns that appear in media outlets from The New York Times to The Huffington Post, while digital portals blur the line between journalism and spin.

Two years after the story appeared, the Seattle Times accepted substantial funding from the Gates Foundation for an education reporting project.

These stories offered compelling evidence of Gates’s editorial influence, but they didn’t attempt to investigate the full scope of the foundation’s financial reach into the fourth estate. (For perspective, $250 million is the same amount that Jeff Bezos paid for the Washington Post.)

When Gates gives money to newsrooms, it restricts how the money is used—often for topics, like global health and education, on which the foundation works—which can help elevate its agenda in the news media. 

For example, in 2015 Gates gave $383,000 to the Poynter Institute, a widely cited authority on journalism ethics (and an occasional partner of CJR’s), earmarking the funds “to improve the accuracy in worldwide media of claims related to global health and development.”

Poynter senior vice president Kelly McBride said Gates’s money was passed on to media fact-checking sites, including Africa Check, and noted that she is “absolutely confident” that no bias or blind spots emerged from the work, though she acknowledged that she has not reviewed it herself. 

I found sixteen examples of Africa Check examining media claims related to Gates. This body of work overwhelmingly seems to support or defend Bill and Melinda Gates and their foundation, which has spent billions of dollars on development efforts in Africa. The only example I found of Africa Check even remotely challenging its patron was when a foundation employee tweeted an incorrect statistic—that a child dies of malaria every 60 seconds, instead of every 108. 

Africa Check says it went on to receive an additional $1.5 million from Gates in 2017 and 2019. 

“Our funders or supporters have no influence over the claims we fact-check…and the conclusions we reach in our reports,” said Noko Makgato, executive director of Africa Check, in a statement to CJR. “With all fact-checks involving our funders, we include a disclosure note to inform the reader.” 

Earlier this year, McBride added NPR public editor to her list of duties, as part of a contract between NPR and Poynter. Since 2000, the Gates Foundation has given NPR $17.5 million through ten charitable grants—all of them earmarked for coverage of global health and education, specific issues on which Gates works.

NPR covers the Gates Foundation extensively. By the end of 2019, a spokesperson said, NPR had mentioned the foundation more than 560 times in its reporting, including 95 times on Goats and Soda, the outlet’s “global health and development blog,” which Gates helps fund. “Funding from corporate sponsors and philanthropic donors is separate from the editorial decision-making process in NPR’s newsroom,” the spokesperson noted.

NPR does occasionally hold a critical lens to the Gates Foundation. Last September, it covered a decision by the foundation to give a humanitarian award to Indian prime minister Narendra Modi, despite Modi’s dismal record on human rights and freedom of expression. (That story was widely covered by news outlets—a rare bad news cycle for Gates.)

On the same day, the foundation appeared in another NPR headline: “Gates Foundation Says World Not on Track to Meet Goal of Ending Poverty by 2030.” That story cites only two sources: the Gates Foundation and a representative from the Center for Global Development, a Gates-funded NGO. The lack of independent perspectives is hard to miss. Bill Gates is the second-richest man in the world and might reasonably be viewed as a totem of economic inequality, but NPR has transformed him into a moral authority on poverty. 

Given Gates’s large funding role at NPR, one could imagine editors insisting that reporters seek out financially independent voices or include sources who can offer critical perspectives. (Many NPR stories on Gates don’t: hereherehere, here, here, here.) Likewise, NPR could seek a measure of independence from Gates by rejecting donations that are earmarked for reporting on Gates’s favored topics.

Even when NPR publishes critical reporting on Gates, it can feel scripted. In February 2018, NPR ran a story headlined “Bill Gates Addresses ‘Tough Questions’ on Poverty and Power.” The “tough questions” NPR posed in this Q&A were mostly based on a list curated by Gates himself, which he previously answered in a letter posted to his foundation’s website. With no irony at all, reporter Ari Shapiro asked, “How do you…encourage people to be frank with you, even at risk of perhaps alienating their funder?”

In the interview, Gates said that critics are voicing their concerns and the foundation is listening.

In 2007, the LA Times published one of the only critical investigative series on the Gates Foundation, part of which examined the foundation’s endowment holdings in companies that hurt those people the foundation claimed to help, like chocolate companies linked to child labor. Charles Piller, the lead reporter on the series, says he made strenuous efforts to get responses from the Gates Foundation during the investigation. 

“For the most part they were unwilling to engage with me. They were unwilling to answer questions and pretty much refused to respond in any sort of way, except in the most minimal way, for most of my stories,” Piller said.“That’s very, very typical of big companies, government agencies—to try to hope that whatever controversial issues have been raised in reporting will have limited shelf life, and they’ll be able to go back to business as usual.”

Asked about the dearth of hard reporting on Gates, Piller says the foundation’s funding may prompt newsrooms to find other targets.

“I think they would be kidding themselves to suggest that those donations to their organizations have no impact on editorial decisions,” he says. “It’s just the way of the world.”

Two journalists who have investigated Gates more recently cite what appear to be more explicit efforts by the foundation to exercise editorial influence. 

Writing in De Correspondent, freelance journalists Robert Fortner and Alex Park examined the limitations and inadvertent consequences of the Gates Foundation’s relentless efforts to eradicate polio. In HuffPost, the two journalists showed how Gates’s outsize funding of global health initiatives has steered the world’s aid agenda toward the foundation’s own goals (like polio eradication) and away from issues such as emergency preparedness to respond to disease outbreaks, like the Ebola crisis. (This narrative has been lost in the current covid-19 news cycle, as outlets from the LA Times to PBS to STAT have portrayed Gates as a visionary leader on pandemics.)

During the course of Fortner and Park’s reporting these two stories, the foundation went over their heads to seek an audience with their editors. Editors at both publications say this raised questions about Gates attempting to influence editorial direction on the stories.

“They’ve dodged our questions and sought to undermine our coverage,” says Park.

During Park and Fortner’s investigation for De Correspondent, the head of Gates’s polio communications team, Rachel Lonsdale, made an unusual offer to the duo’s editor, writing, “We typically like to have a phone conversation with the editor of a publication employing freelancers we are engaging with, both to fully understand how we can help you with the specific project and to form a longer term relationship that could transcend the freelance assignment.”

The news outlet said it rejected the proposition because of its potential to compromise the independence and integrity of its journalistic work.

In a statement, the foundation said Lonsdale “was conducting normal media relations work as part of her role as a senior program officer. As we wrote to Tim in December 2019, ‘As with many organizations, the foundation has an in-house media relations team that cultivates relationships with journalists and editors in order to serve as a resource for information gathering and to help facilitate thorough and accurate coverage of our issues.’ ”

Park says his editors stood behind his work on both stories, but he doesn’t discount the foundation’s efforts to put “a wedge between us and the publication…if not to assert influence outright, to give themselves a channel through which they could assert influence later.”

Fortner, meanwhile, says he mostly avoids pitching articles to Gates-funded news outlets because of the conflict of interest this presents. “Gates funding, for me, makes a good-faith pitching process impossible,” he says.

Fortner, who authored CJR’s 2010 story on Gates’s journalism funding, self-published a follow-up in 2016 that examined how Gates funding is not always disclosed in news articles, including fifty-nine news stories the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting funded in part with Gates’s money. The center also declined to tell Fortner which fifty-nine articles had Gates’s funding. 

If critical reporting about the Gates Foundation is rare, it is largely beside the point in “solutions journalism,” a new-ish brand of reporting that focuses on solutions to problems, not just the problems themselves. That more upbeat orientation has drawn the patronage of the Gates Foundation, which directed $6.3 million to the Solutions Journalism Network (SJN) to train journalists and fund reporting projects. Gates is the largest donor to SJN—supplying around one-fifth of the organization’s lifetime funding. SJN says more than half of this money has been distributed as subgrants, including to Education Lab, its partnership with the Seattle Times.

SJN acknowledges on its website “that there are potential conflicts of interest inherent” in taking philanthropic funding to produce solutions journalism, which SJN cofounder David Bornstein elaborated on in an interview. “If you are covering global health or education and you are writing about interesting models,” Bornstein said, “the chances that an organization [you are covering] is getting money from the Gates Foundation are very high because they basically blanket the whole world with their funding, and they’re the major funder in those two areas.” Asked if he could provide examples of any critical reporting about Gates emerging from SJN, Bornstein took issue with the question. “Most of the stories that we fund are stories that look at efforts to solve problems, so they tend to be not as critical as traditional journalism,” he said. 

That is also the case for the journalism Bornstein and fellow SJN cofounder Tina Rosenberg produce for the New York Times. As contract writers for the “Fixes” opinion column, the two have favorably profiled Gates-funded educationagriculture, and global health programs over the years—without disclosing that they work for an organization that receives millions of dollars from Gates. Twice in 2019, for example, Rosenberg’s columns exalted the World Mosquito Project, whose sponsor page lands on a picture of Bill Gates.

“We do disclose our relationship with SJN in every column, and SJN’s funders are listed on our website. But you are correct that when we write about projects that get Gates funding, we should specifically say that SJN receives Gates funding as well,” Rosenberg noted in an email. “Our policy going forward with the NY Times will be clearer and will ensure disclosures.”

My cursory review of the Fixes column turned up fifteen installments where the writers explicitly mention Bill and Melinda Gates, their foundation, or Gates-funded organizations. Bornstein and Rosenberg said they asked their editors at the Times to belatedly add financial disclosures to several of these columns, but they also cited six they thought did not need disclosure. Rosenberg’s 2016 profile of Bridge International Academies, for example, notes that Bill Gates personally helps fund the project. The writers argue that SJN’s ties are to the Gates Foundation, not to Bill Gates himself, so no disclosure is needed.

This is a significant distinction,” Rosenberg and Bornstein stated in an email.

Months after Bornstein and Rosenberg say they asked their editors to add financial disclosures to their columns, those pieces remain uncorrected. Marc Charney, a senior editor at the Times, said he wasn’t sure if or when the paper would add the disclosures, citing technical difficulties and other newsroom priorities. 

Likewise, NPR said it would add a financial disclosure to a 2012 story it published on the Gates Foundation, but did not follow through. (In the vast majority of articles about Gates, NPR makes disclosures.)

Even perfect disclosure of Gates funding doesn’t mean the money can’t still introduce biasAt the same time, Gates funding, alone, doesn’t fully explain why so much of the news about the foundation is positive. Even news outlets with no obvious financial ties to Gates—the foundation isn’t required to publicly report all of the money it gives to journalism, making the full extent of its giving unknown—tend to report favorably on the foundation. That may be because Gates’s expansive giving over the decades has helped influence a larger media narrative about its work. And it may also be because the news media is always, and especially right now, looking for heroes.

A larger worry is the precedent the prevailing coverage of Gates sets for how we report on the next generation of tech billionaires–turned-philanthropists, including Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg. Bill Gates has shown how seamlessly the most controversial industry captain can transform his public image from tech villain to benevolent philanthropist. Insofar as journalists are supposed to scrutinize wealth and power, Gates should probably be one of the most investigated people on earth—not the most admired.

Reporting for this piece was supported by a fellowship from the Alicia Patterson Foundation.

Pramod Ranjan

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Thank you Frederick Noronh.
Same case is in India also. Professor Madhav Nalapat (Editorial Director of Itv network (India) & The Sunday Guardian) is also a member in this fouram. In one of his article he quoted a journalist, saying "almost every health correspondent is being bombarded with favourable information about the Bill and melinda gates foundation".

Here is is his piece :

Bill Gates prescribes costly foreign drugs for India’s poor

BY MADHAV NALAPAT
  • Published : February 6, 2016,

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I think you are mistaken about the news. It is a scary conspiracy theory and right wing organised demonstration. Nothing inspiring about it. 

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 23:47, Medha Patkar <medha....@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks for this inspring news......

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 23:43 Elias Davidsson <elia...@t-online.de> wrote:

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That’s a fine report by Tim Schwab on the relation of money to media (Gates financing of media). It is actually nothing new in structural terms. What is new is not the buying of good press by money, but the role played by the Gates Foundation as a front for the world’s oligarchy to accustom the peoples of the world to do as they are told. The medical channel (Corona) is the tool used for that purpose and the income from medical products enrich some of these folks, but the strategic aims are far greater, namely to permanently beat out the will of the people for democracy. That’s why the oligarchs view China with envy. Corona is the best tool to keep the people subdued. And that’s only the second phase (the first was played on 9/11).

All the best for India. Wake up, folks!

Elias

> On 31 Aug 2020, at 20:40, Frederick Noronha <frederic...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> There are a lot of extreme Right ideologues who are pushing their own fundamentalism and agendas through the pandemic -- from Bolsonario to Trump and others. At the same time, the cashing in on it to tighten (often arbitrary and sometimes even unscientific) restrictions on the citizen is also very real. But the piece below strikes me as anything but a conspiracy theory.... Let me know if you agree. FN
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> Journalism’s Gates keepers (Tim Schwab, cpr.org)
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Sampadak DelhiPress

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This conspiracy theory seems to be far fetched without a firm basis. Corporates, a few, are making money out of tragic pandemic but that there's a plan behind is not correct. Corporates world over are losing heavily due to the lockdowns, work from home, closure of hotels etc. Even religion is losing money. Religious organisations are first to detect any conspiracy that can rival them. No businessman can be more shrewd than the priest. 

Let's fight the disease and see that human labour and work of scientists is not used by pharma companies alone. 

Paresh Nath

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I was also happy to see this news report, but it turned out that it was v misleading. the demonstration against the covid restrictions was taken over by fascist and other right wing extremists, and were even holding the Reich flag. BBC and Guardian had given accurate but short reports. Here is a detailed report and pics, German, sent by a German friend. Pl use google translate to read in english
Faizi
 

janaki srinivasan

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I was refering to the Berlin protest which had QAnon and AfD participants, and people boycotting masks and denying the pandemic. 
That the pandemic is being used by authoritarian and fascist elected leaders to curb dissent and sanction plunder of resources is not disputed at all. 

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This is totally false. A small demonstration by rightwingers (300 people) was hyped by the media whores who ignored mostly the large demonstration of about 80,000 people, who were fighting for democracy and distanced themselves very clearly from this fringe group. I am shocked by your trust in the media whores.

Elias

Elias Davidsson

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Wrong! Amazon. Google and Facebook increased their value during the Corona period by dozens of billions of dollars. The same is with all corporations and investors who bet on the digital age.

And there is plenty of evidence that the plandemic was planned long ago, in fact as far as 2010. Please make your homework.

Elias

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Over more that 4 decades I have witnessed how a fringe is planted to change the narrative
This happened at World Bank rallies in Berlin in 1988
It happened in WTO protests in Seattle
It was attempted in Cancun
Democracy means citizens stay in control of the narrative
If we leave it to the billionaires who control the institutions and the media to shape the narrative , they will spin it to maintain their power through deflection in order to undermine people’s movements and subvert democracy , and prevent people from listening to people’s voices

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> On 01-Sep-2020, at 4:26 AM, Elias Davidsson <elia...@t-online.de> wrote:
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> This is totally false. A small demonstration by rightwingers (300 people) was hyped by the media whores who ignored mostly the large demonstration of about 80,000 people, who were fighting for democracy and distanced themselves very clearly from this fringe group. I am shocked by your trust in the media whores.

Sunalini Kumar

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Elias, disagreements apart, your use of misogynistic language to describe media corruption (media whores) is unfortunate. Do consider this in your future communication.

Paul Carline

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The Berlin protest was open to everyone. No-one is denying that there were some members of far-right organisations present, but it is entirely incorrect to assert that the demo was organised by members of any such organisation. The main call was for the government to respect the freedoms inscribed in the German Basic Law.

The behaviour of a small group of fascists was immediately condemned by the main organiser, Michael Ballweg.

That most of those present chose not to wear a mask is actually a sign of their intelligence and refusal to be ‘muzzled’ by the government. Masks are more dangerous to health than of any use in protecting one from the Covid-19 bogeyman.

Have you seen the latest news from the CDC - that only 6% of those who were listed as having died from the coronavirus were actually killed by the virus. The remaining 94% all had serious co-morbidities.

This is a remarkable admission by the CDC. Hopefully it signals an overdue reassessment of the seriousness of this pandemic and the appalling way it has been handled by most governments.

Paul



Pramod Ranjan

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Agree, Dr. Vandana Shiva.

Elias Davidsson

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For you folks, who are unaware of German alternative and progressive platforms, I urge to take a look at at least one article including a short video from the mass demonstration in Berlin. The article deals with the media lies about an alleged right-wing mass demonstration. I did not mean by the term « media whores » to disparage genuine and honorable prostitutes. Sorry for the mistake. There are dozens of articles by progressive German intellectuals denouncing the machinations of the media and the tricks used by the media to stage agents provocateurs playing a « right wing demonstration ».

Here is one of the links (please scroll down to view the video): https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/die-nazi-inszenierung

The platform Rubikon is dedicated to progressive issues and has been at the forefront in opposing the liberticide measures. It is to be hoped that progressive people in other countries emulate this project.

elias

Paul Carline

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There is evidence that the planning began even earlier than 2010. The first recorded use of the term ’social distancing’ has been traced to 2004, but that was in a Texas newspaper article and it seems obvious that the journalist did not invent it! In fact, he (or she) explained that it meant the same as “quarantine” , which is obviously incorrect.

I found the term (in English) in the new draft pandemic law of 2010 in Switzerland, but the footnotes explain that work on the law had been going on since at least 2007.

We should remember that there was an attempt by the WHO to stage a deadly pandemic in 2009. It fortunately failed, but the plan was obviously not abandoned.

Paul

Madhav Nalapat

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What is obvious is that across the world, WHO guidelines for fighting the pandemic have given enormous powers to the bureaucracy. At the same time,the spread of the disease and fatalities keep rising even as livelihoods disappear
Madhav
> On 01-Sep-2020, at 5:15 PM, Dr Vandana Shiva <vandan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Over more that 4 decades I have witnessed how a fringe is planted to change the narrative

Paul Carline

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Dear Dr. Shiva,

thank you for that confirmation. Unfortunately, we are seeing more and more subversion of the democratic process by organisations - such as the mainstream media and others - which claim to represent the moderate view.

Twitter appears to have become the preferred tool of those who wish to destroy the reputation of anyone they consider a threat - such as Jeremy Corbin - or who challenges any aspect of the new ‘woke’ culture.

Kind regards,

Paul



Ajit Menon

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I am really perplexed by what the conspiracy theorists seem to be using as evidence. This 6% is the same data being used by guys like Trump to suggest that he really has not done so badly with Covid. And if this is a conspiracy hatched in 2010 please share that evidence. And what was the purpose of this grand conspiracy. It's not like the people were on the streets threatening the end of capitalism prior to the pandemic.

Ajit

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Elias Davidsson

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Pramod Ranjan

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Agree with professor Nalapat.

Pramod Ranjan

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Thank you for this video Elias Davidsson.
Few days ago Rubicon published German translation of my article "COVID-19, science and responsibility of the intellectuals".  


Ish Mishra

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agree with Dr Vandana Shiva


Ish Mishra 
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Dept. of Political Science
Hindu College, University of Delhi
Delhi


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:02 PM Ish Mishra <mish...@gmail.com> wrote:
Nalpat's write up is meaningful but corona affair is totally a hox in not believable seeing the real cases.

Ish Mishra 
Associate Professor
Dept. of Political Science
Hindu College, University of Delhi
Delhi


Ish Mishra

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Nalpat's write up is meaningful but corona affair is totally a hox in not believable seeing the real cases.

Ish Mishra 
Associate Professor
Dept. of Political Science
Hindu College, University of Delhi
Delhi


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 5:34 PM Pramod Ranjan <janv...@gmail.com> wrote:

Elias Davidsson

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