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Ivar Grimstad
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With all respect, I think it's important to look at this from the standpoint of someone that doesn't have a lot of time to be abreast of all specification development. So far, the only way to understand what changed is essentially to navigate each specification document and see if the exact delta is well-documented somehow. Sometimes it is and sometimes it is not (I would assess the quality of this information currently at something like 50%). If you like I can go over it again and list the specific rough spots that are very hard to track down.
In the meanwhile, if folks could do an old fashioned review, I
would really appreciate it. I do need to deliver this talk as soon
as a few weeks from now.
Unfortunately PPT and OneDrive does not make this easy. The only real way is to give everyone edit access, which isn't exactly too reliable.
Please provide feedback here in the form of "On slide X, Y is not accurate - Z would be accurate".
I plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to map the contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10 contributor guide (https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/guide-to-contributing-to-jakarta-ee-10/) to what actually made it into Jakarta EE 10 and what seems committed although it did not make it. You could think of it as a score card of sorts.
The items in dark green are the things that made it into Jakarta
EE 10. The items in light green are the things that looks like
they are going to happen but just did not make it into Jakarta EE
10. The items in black are important gaps that really have not
been addressed yet to my knowledge. I considered putting these
items in light red, but I think readability really suffers if I
did that. I tried different color schemes but I think this is the
best I could figure without complicating the slide any more with
animations, etc.
Hi Reza,
How can we provide feedback on some slides? I can't make some comments, it seems.
For example, slide 8 contains some items that are not in Jakarta EE 10 (and they are also not repeated later on when each spec is covered in more detail)
ThxRudy
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With all respect, I think it's important to look at this from the standpoint of someone that doesn't have a lot of time to be abreast of all specification development. So far, the only way to understand what changed is essentially to navigate each specification document and see if the exact delta is well-documented somehow. Sometimes it is and sometimes it is not (I would assess the quality of this information currently at something like 50%). If you like I can go over it again and list the specific rough spots that are very hard to track down.
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Yep, looked at all these. Unfortunately was unsure of their accuracy and completeness too (which is why I tried to also look at the specification documents themselves in addition to what Ivar managed to get for me).
Thanks for pointing these out though.
Thanks for checking/confirming. Repeating from my earlier email:
"I plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a
chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to map the
contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10 contributor guide
(https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/guide-to-contributing-to-jakarta-ee-10/)
to what actually made it into Jakarta EE 10 and what seems
committed although it did not make it. You could think of it as a
score card of sorts.
The items in dark green are the things that made it into Jakarta
EE 10. The items in light green are the things that looks like
they are going to happen but just did not make it into Jakarta EE
10. The items in black are important gaps that really have not
been addressed yet to my knowledge. I considered putting these
items in light red, but I think readability really suffers if I
did that. I tried different color schemes but I think this is the
best I could figure without complicating the slide any more with
animations, etc."
Good point on some of the CDI deprecation. Let me see how I can
add them.
Reza,
CDI Context Propagation (slide 10) did not make EE 10 and should be switched to an EE 11 goal (slide 25). In place of it on slide 10, you could list Context Propagation for third-party context providers.
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Thanks for checking/confirming. Repeating from my earlier email: "I plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to map the contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10 contributor
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Thanks for the review. I'll make the updates ASAP.
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Thanks for the review. Responses below, extra text removed for
brevity.
Context propagation didn't make it to EE 10 as Nathan wrote
- Not mentioned: Support for ForkJoinPool threads and parallel streams in a managed context
Standardized providing a custom default configuration of JSON-B mapping for REST services
- Provider Extensions - allow extend REST services from outside of the deployed WAR
Good point. Added.
- Deprecation of @Context injection
Slide 18 (Persistence), this is not mentioned:
- Expressions as conditions in Criteria CASE expressions - see https://newsroom.eclipse.org/eclipse-newsletter/2022/march/what%E2%80%99s-new-jakarta-persistence-31
Servlet immutable request and response wrapper - to safely pass request and response asynchronous processes
- URI security protection
- Cookie extra attributes
This is actually already mentioned.
- Removal of deprecated methods
I would also move "better CDI support for Batch" from slide 25 (EE 11 themes) to slide 24 (Other changes), because Batch has already improved CDI alignment a lot in the latest release, see (Batch 2.1 changes
On slide 27 (Summary), I would mention that work on Jakarta EE 11 has already started, and people can already get involved with it.
at the bottom, /<f:selectItemGroup> should be </f:selectItemGroup>
I have replaced "/" with "and". That was the intent.
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