MS, June, 2023/10 Curcuma sp. for id

[M Sawmliana]

Location : Lurh tlang, Mizoram

Altitude : 1,600-1,700 m

Date : 31-05-2019

Habit : Herb

Habitat : Wild

With regards,

M.Sawmliana

[Saroj Kasaju]

Curcuma angustifolia Roxb.??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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From: Mamiyil Sabu 
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 11:36
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:449579] MS, June, 2023/10 Curcuma sp. for id
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Let leaves o come.

Thanking you,

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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From: M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul, 2023, 17:00
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:449579] MS, June, 2023/10 Curcuma sp. for id
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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From: M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul, 2023, 17:16
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:449579] MS, June, 2023/10 Curcuma sp. for id
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

On Mon, 3 Jul, 2023, 5:00 pm M Sawmliana, <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Jul, 2023, 12:33 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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From: Mamiyil Sabu 
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:50
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:449579] MS, June, 2023/10 Curcuma sp. for id
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

May be Curcuma latifolia?

Thanking you,

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

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[Tabish]

This looks like the plant whose identity is being debated in the attached paper. Compare with the illustration and images of Curcuma zedoaria  in the paper. In my opinion, it may be treated as Curcuma zedoaria, which is called White turmeric because of the whitish inside of the rhizome, and is found in NE India.

    Tabish

[J.M. Garg]

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J.M.Garg

[Tabish]

Yes, Curcuma latifolia is very close to Curcuma zedoaria. The purple midrib of the leaf is missing in Sawmliana plant.

   Tabish

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[Tabish]

The flowers are distinctly protruding from the bracts. This feature doesn't agree with Curcuma latifolia and Curcuma zedoaria. In these two species, the flowers are shorter than the bracts. The only plant I could find in the NE region with this feature is Curcuma rubescens. There could be others which I am not aware of.

   Tabish

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On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 10:26 AM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tabish ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

May be Curcuma latifolia? Thanking you, Sincerely yours, M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

This looks like the plant whose identity is being debated in the attached paper. Compare with the illustration and images of Curcuma zedoaria  in the paper. In my opinion, it may be treated as Curcuma zedoaria, which is called White turmeric because of the whitish inside of the rhizome, and is found in NE India.     Tabish

Yes, Curcuma latifolia is very close to Curcuma zedoaria. The purple midrib of the leaf is missing in Sawmliana plant.    Tabish

The flowers are distinctly protruding from the bracts. This feature doesn't agree with Curcuma latifolia and Curcuma zedoaria. In these two species, the flowers are shorter than the bracts. The only plant I could find in the NE region with this feature is Curcuma rubescens. There could be others which I am not aware of.    Tabish

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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From: Mamiyil Sabu <>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul, 2023, 20:37
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:449579] MS, June, 2023/10 Curcuma sp. for id
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

I have compared this one with the Roxburgh icon of C. rubescens and it matches. 

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 20:23, Mamiyil Sabu <msa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok, I will check. 

Thanking you,

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

[Tabish]

Good to hear that! Thanks a lot Sabu ji!

   Tabish

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