Do we have Aechmanthera gossypina in our database?? Uploading from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata-GSAUG02

[Gurcharan Singh]

I post in Indian Flora and identified as Aechmanthera gossypina led me to scrutinize my files and those in our database. I found that there are two populations identified in my Chakrata collections, one from Mussoorie Chakrata Road which I unfortunately I uploaded as Aechmanthera gossypina but is actually Strobilanthus, and second from Tiger Fall Area of Chakrata, which is real Aechmanthera gossypina, differentiated by by narrower lanceolate upper leaves, its light blue flowers, smaller in size, usually not longer than 2.5 cm, in one sides clusters in a panicle and linear capsule.  

     My earlier upload as Aechmanthera may be Strobilanthes, perhaps S. glutinosus because of petioled leaves, foliaceous looking persistent bracts although calyx is not glandular pubescent. Pl. suggest ID

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Aechmanthera/indiantreepix/tn-8hMg-AJ4/D2JnoLo4VhAJ

The upload by Balkar ji from Chakrata road as Aechmanthera gossypina, to me appears a Strobilanthes dalhousieanus. pl. validate.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Aechmanthera/indiantreepix/25NCwbKe4p8/aYEL4JtAUrkJ

The upload by Ushaprabha ji may also be some species of Strobilanthes-pl validate

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/DpefAeCXjpE

And finally upload on Flowers of India by Balkar ji may be similar to mine and may be similarly S. glutinosus, because it also has dark blue flowers unlike true Aechmanthera gossypina

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

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From: John Wood
Date: 6 September 2014 21:17
Subject: RE: Do we have Aechmanthera gossypina in our database?? Uploading from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata-GSAUG02
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

This is Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J.R.I. Wood which is the correct name for Aechmanthera gossypina.
 
Regards
 
John Wood

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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 20:51:55 +0530
Subject: Fwd: Do we have Aechmanthera gossypina in our database?? Uploading from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata-GSAUG02
From: jmg...@gmail.com
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Dear Sir,

Forwarding for validation of these pictures as Aechmanthe​ra gossypina pl.

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Date: 6 September 2014 20:44
Subject: Fwd: Do we have Aechmanthera gossypina in our database?? Uploading from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata-GSAUG02
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Garg ji

Did you forward this one to Dr. wood?, please do it if not already forwarded.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

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Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks to Dr. Wood.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

[Gurcharan Singh]

This plant also identified by Dr. Woodas Aechmanthera gossypina now known as Strobilanthes tomentosa,  

To me looks totally different from other plant 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Aechmanthera$20gossypina$20from$20Chakrata$20Mussoorie$20Road$20pl.$20validate/indiantreepix/tn-8hMg-AJ4/D2JnoLo4VhAJ

After having seen some photographs of S. kunthiana, I have a strong feeling that our plant is very much similar to it in inflorescence and flowers. Can this Western Ghats endemic plant (or its close relative) can occur in Western Himalayas, our experts may thrown light on this.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Strobilanthes species- Arunachal

Group discussion at

Do we have Aechmanthera gossypina in our database?? Uploading from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata-GSAUG02 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Strobilanthes species- Arunachal

Group discussion at

Do we have Aechmanthera gossypina in our database?? Uploading from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata-GSAUG02 (google.com)

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