Kalatope id al190411

[Alok Mahendroo]

Dear friends,
A small one for id,

Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mt
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 3 inches

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Alok
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[Nidhan Singh]

Hi,
This looks like Mazus pumilus.
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[Alok Mahendroo]

Thank you, Nidhan ji
regards
ALok
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 21:53 +0530, Nidhan Singh wrote:
> Mazus pumilus

[JM Garg]

To me it appears more closer to the images at Mazus surculosus D. Don

[Anil Thakur]

To me, it appears more like Mazus delavayi.
Three species (M. delavayi, M. pumilus and M. surculosus) are reported to occur in Chamba district (H.P). by Singh and Sharma

Regards
ANIL  THAKUR

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji.

Calyx seems certainly different from other two species.

However does not seem to match with illustration at http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=4701&flora_id=2

As per keys at FOC (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001250), it appears more closer to Mazus pumilus var. pumilus rather than Mazus pumilus var. delavayi (Bonati) T. L. Chin ex D. Y. Hong

Surprisingly we do not have any post so far on Mazus delavayi in efi.

Pl. also see keys in efi at  Mazus surculosus D. Don

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[Anil Thakur]

Respected Garg Ji

It does not match well with any of the two species (M. pumilus and M.
surculosus) listed in efloraindia. What prompted me to think of M.
delavayi on the basis of description given in "FLORA OF CHAMBA" is:
i. Small pedicel
ii. More hairy than other two
iii. Not appearing to have runners (found in M. surculosus).


Still, I am not sure about its correct identity.

Regards
ANIL THAKUR

On 7/16/16, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Anil ji.
> Calyx seems certainly different from other two species.
> However does not seem to match with illustration at
> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=4701&flora_id=2
>
> As per keys at FOC (
> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001250), it

> appears more closer to *Mazus* *pumilus* var. *pumilus* rather than *Mazus*
> *pumilus* var. *delavayi* (Bonati) T. L. Chin ex D. Y. Hong

>
> Surprisingly we do not have any post so far on Mazus delavayi in efi.
>

> Pl. also see keys in efi at *Mazus surculosus D. Don*
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/phrymaceae/mazus/mazus-surculosus>

>
>
> On 15 July 2016 at 20:48, Anil Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To me, it appears more like Mazus delavayi.
>> Three species (M. delavayi, M. pumilus and M. surculosus) are reported to
>> occur in Chamba district (H.P). by Singh and Sharma
>>
>> Regards
>> ANIL THAKUR
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:10:55 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>>>

>>> To me it appears more closer to the images at *Mazus surculosus D. Don*
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/phrymaceae/mazus/mazus-surculosus>

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

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[J.M. Garg]

Can it be from some other genera.

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[J.M. Garg]

Seems to match with images of Mazus goodenifolius at

http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/mazus,mazusgoodenifolius/Interesting

http://flowers2.la.coocan.jp/Phrymaceae/Mazus%20goodenifolius.htm

But as per  Annotated checklist of the flowering plants of Nepal, it is stated to be a syn. of Mazus pumilus

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Date: 14 July 2016 at 13:10
Subject: [efloraofindia:247238] Fwd: Kalatope id al190411
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Alok Mahendroo <alokis...@gmail.com>, Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com>, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>, "D. S Rawat" <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>

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[Anil Thakur]

You are right, Garg ji
This plant by Alok ji is matching very closely with Mazus
goodenifolius (Syn. Mazus delavayi auct., non Bonati). Flora of Chamba
has described Mazus delavayi Bonati only.

Regards

On 7/22/16, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems to match with images of Mazus goodenifolius at
> http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/mazus,mazusgoodenifolius/Interesting
> http://flowers2.la.coocan.jp/Phrymaceae/Mazus%20goodenifolius.htm
>
> But as per Annotated checklist of the flowering plants of Nepal

> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=210001250>,
> it is stated to be a syn. of *Mazus* *pumilus*
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=210001250>

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
> Date: 14 July 2016 at 13:10
> Subject: [efloraofindia:247238] Fwd: Kalatope id al190411
> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Alok Mahendroo <
> alokis...@gmail.com>, Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com>, Gurcharan
> Singh <sing...@gmail.com>, "D. S Rawat" <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>
>
>

> To me it appears more closer to the images at *Mazus surculosus D. Don*
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/phrymaceae/mazus/mazus-surculosus>
>

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

>
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> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

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> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Mazus goodeniifolius ?

Group discussion at

Kalatope id al190411 (google.com)  

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Mazus goodeniifolius ?

Group discussion at

Kalatope id al190411 (google.com)  

[Tabish]

This one should be Mazus delavayi, as Anil ji said. See the image here:

  https://uk.inaturalist.org/taxa/736932-Mazus-delavayi

It agrees well with the description at Flora of China too.

   Tabish

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[J.M. Garg]

There is only one observation at https://uk.inaturalist.org/taxa/736932-Mazus-delavayi

Can not say with this one. 
Pl. see 
http://flowers2.la.coocan.jp/Phrymaceae/Mazus%20goodenifolius.htm also. 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

https://www.google.com/imgres?q=Mazus%20delavayi&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F363662721%2Ffigure%2Ffig1%2FAS%3A11431281085079789%401663609463726%2FA-Mazus-delavayi-habit-B-Mazus-pumilus-habit-D-capsule-E-stamen-F-pedicel.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Ffigure%2FA-Mazus-delavayi-habit-B-Mazus-pumilus-habit-D-capsule-E-stamen-F-pedicel_fig1_363662721&docid=A5sQ2OWwY3eUhM&tbnid=Fafw9rH_XboIFM&vet=12ahUKEwir4IOEl-qIAxUDV2wGHWtaGGgQM3oECBwQAA..i&w=850&h=1124&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwir4IOEl-qIAxUDV2wGHWtaGGgQM3oECBwQAA

https://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/2916891

https://www.google.com/imgres?q=Mazus%20delavayi&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Finaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fphotos%2F46899197%2Foriginal.jpeg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.inaturalist.org%2Ftaxa%2F736932-Mazus-delavayi&docid=QwhGAko1s-j91M&tbnid=6oC38pTCT0GH8M&vet=12ahUKEwir4IOEl-qIAxUDV2wGHWtaGGgQM3oECGMQAA..i&w=2048&h=1536&hcb=2&itg=1&ved=2ahUKEwir4IOEl-qIAxUDV2wGHWtaGGgQM3oECGMQAA

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Yes, Mazus delavayi appears a possibility. POWO also gives its distribution. 

Appears to match with GBIF specimen from India. 

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