IBG today : Arecaceae : unknown11

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surajit koley

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Aug 23, 2014, 12:56:05 PM8/23/14
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This has glaucous abaxial. The last pic is of an unknown small snail, I think.
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surajit koley

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Aug 25, 2014, 2:05:03 PM8/25/14
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It is not glaucous but silvery - Arenga engleri Becc.?

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J.M. Garg

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It is not glaucous but silvery - Arenga engleri Becc.?

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 9, 2014, 2:14:21 AM9/9/14
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Some earlier relevant feedback:

It is not glaucous but silvery - Arenga engleri Becc.?

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Surajit

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This has glaucous abaxial. The last pic is of an unknown small snail, I think.

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 9, 2014, 4:32:34 AM9/9/14
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Thanks a lot, Dr. John.
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Without details of inflorescences/fruits this is not straightforward. If as you say cult in Kolkata then it could be any one of several Arenga spp

John

surajit koley

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Sep 9, 2014, 12:30:41 PM9/9/14
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Thank you very much Sir. This palm is growing in the Calcutta Botanical Garden, presently known as Acharya Jagadish Chandra Bose Indian Botanic Garden.

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Surajit


On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:53 PM, John Dransfield <J.Dran...@kew.org> wrote:

Without details of inflorescences/fruits this is not straightforward. If as you say cult in Kolkata then it could be any one of several Arenga spp

John

 

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surajit koley

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Sep 9, 2014, 12:33:10 PM9/9/14
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Thank you very much Garg Sir.

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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Dec 12, 2020, 9:13:04 AM12/12/20
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Arenga engleri Becc. ??  Since this sp. is planted there.

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Dec 19, 2020, 2:21:53 AM12/19/20
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Thanks, Saroj ji.
But looks different from closeup details at 
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This has glaucous abaxial. The last pic is of an unknown small snail, I think.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 28, 2021, 8:33:00 AM4/28/21
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Forwarding for ID
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surajit koley

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Apr 28, 2021, 10:32:27 AM4/28/21
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Sir,

I accept it as Arenga sp. only, as suggested by Dr. Dransfield.

However, the garden does have Arenga engleri Becc. - https://bsi.gov.in/garden-page/en?rcu=140,38

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Surajit Koley

J.M. Garg

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May 2, 2021, 6:55:24 AM5/2/21
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Thanks, Surajit ji.
Does it matches ?

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surajit koley

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May 2, 2021, 10:00:05 AM5/2/21
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Sir,
BSI developed a mobile app that can be downloaded from the playstore.
Arenga species listed in that app are -
  1. A. wightii - 
  2. A. tremula
  3. A. australasica
  4. A. otusifolia
  5. A. pinnata
  6. A. undulatifolia
Surprisingly, Arenga engleri doesn't show up in that app search. One reason might be that this particular species is housed inside the "palm house".

I visited the site - palmpedia.net, to find if I could id this species out of those above listed six spp.
I think Arenga wightii comes closer to my species, but base of the pinnae looks different. And of-course the species also features in the group site.

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looks similar to
my photo no. P1110619.jpg 

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Surajit Koley

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