Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila?

[Samir Takaochi]

Dear Friends, Thank you always for your kind advice.

 

I think attached photo is Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila which I took Ramgarh near Nainital. But could you advice name?

 

If possible could you advice varaety further ?

 

Samir Takaochi 

[Pankaj Kumar]

This seems like Pear (Pyrus sp.) to me and not Apple (Malus sp.), cant
say which species or variety.
Regards
Pankaj.

[Gurcharan Singh]

It can be a good puzzle, the young emerging leaves of pear often look like apple, but mature leaves are much different, acuminate at tip and glossy and glabrous. Here although the fruits look like pear, the mature leaves alongside definitely look like apple.

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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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[tanay bose]

This is Pyrus because the fruits of pear snorted base whereas the apple has a tapering base. Kindly see the attached picture for what I exactly wanna say.

Tanay

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Tanay

That is what I also wrote, the fruits look like pear (but not the mature leaves).

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[tanay bose]

A chimeric plant !!
Tanay

[Pankaj Kumar]

I think fruits are too young but tending to by pyriform, meaning,
narrowly ovoid with tapering base, which made me think it to be a
pear. This is what its name is based on. I happened to be to Ramgarh
during my recent trip to Pithoragarh with one of my best friends, Dr.
Jyotsna Sharma, and we saw trees of both in the area. We were there on
23rd July. And there are more than one variety which are cultivated in
the region. Those who want to see the wilderness should or must visit
this area. We saw a Leopard with cub and a red fox in the area which
was really a great experience and offcourse some very interesting
orchids..... It much better than Nainital which is around 1.30hr
journey from there.

Pankaj

[Samir Takaochi]

Pankaji ji,  Gurcharan ji, Tanay ji, thank you so much for your kind advices.

 

Can I say it as Pyrus pyrifolia at least? In fact I ate nashpati at Ramgarh and taste similar to Pyrus pyurifolia.

It was not Pyrus communis which is very soft and sweet.

 

Nashpati available at market in Delhi generally is Pyrus pyurifolia?

 

 

2010/7/31 Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com>

[Kenneth Greby]

Sorry, I hadn't seen this 'til just now.

I'm voting for Malus due to leaf serration and pink tinge of flowers. Pyrus typically has pure white flowers and glossy, smooth-margined leaves.

Were there any thorns? Pyrus often has them; Malus does not.

Regards--
Ken.

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Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 1:36:45 PM
Subject: [efloraofindia:42880] Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila?

[Gurcharan Singh]

Didn't I say it is a great puzzle?. To add to the confusion I downloaded the file to my desktop and enlarged it to see details. My wife who was sitting besides me immediately said "where did you photograph baghgosha fruits" (Pyrus). What will the poor leaves alongside will now do?

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[tanay bose]

Thanks Aunty Ji for supporting me !!
Tanay

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Pankaj ji......................................................This seems like Pear (Pyrus sp.) to me and not Apple (Malus sp.), cant

say which species or variety.

Me.............................................................It can be a good puzzle, the young emerging leaves of pear often look like apple, but mature leaves are much different, acuminate at tip and glossy and glabrous. Here although the fruits look like pear, the mature leaves alongside definitely look like apple.

Tanay........................................................This is Pyrus because the fruits of pear snorted base whereas the apple has a tapering base. Kindly see the attached picture for what I exactly wanna say.

For me it is still a puzzle.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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From: Samir Takaochi <band...@gmail.com>
Date: 2010/7/30
Subject: [efloraofindia:42880] Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila?

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“This seems like Pear (Pyrus sp.) to me and not Apple (Malus sp.), cant

say which species or variety.

Regards
Pankaj.”

 

“It can be a good puzzle, the young emerging leaves of pear often look like apple, but mature leaves are much different, acuminate at tip and glossy and glabrous. Here although the fruits look like pear, the mature leaves alongside definitely look like apple.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“This is Pyrus because the fruits of pear snorted base whereas the apple has a tapering base. Kindly see the attached picture for what I exactly wanna say.

Tanay”

"I'm voting for Malus due to leaf serration and pink tinge of flowers. Pyrus typically has pure white flowers and glossy, smooth-margined leaves.

Were there any thorns? Pyrus often has them; Malus does not.

Regards--
Ken."

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Date: 2010/7/31
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[Gurcharan Singh]

I still go with Malus

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

2010/10/14 J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Malus species or Pyrus species ? 

I still go with malus

Group discussion at

  Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila? (google.com)  

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Malus species or Pyrus species ? 

I still go with malus

Group discussion at

  Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila? (google.com)  

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Subject: Pyrus pyrifolia or Malus pumila?
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[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess this is close to Malus pumila Mill.!

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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