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Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary

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Jan 11, 2020, 3:13:46 AM1/11/20
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Dear Members,
Requst help in identifying  a small, very hirsute herb from Meghalaya.

Location: Cherrapunjee area, Meghalaya
Altitude: about 1500m asl
Habitat: in a damp place
Habit: small herb, < 15 cm tall
Leaves: petiolate, opposite decussate. Could not see stipules. Nerves prominent below.

Warm regards,
KL Chaudhary
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Nidhan Singh

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Jan 11, 2020, 3:15:04 AM1/11/20
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Seems from Rubiaceae, like any Neanotis sp.

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 15, 2020, 7:07:43 AM1/15/20
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Thanks, Nidhan ji.
Could not find any match as per comparative images at Neanotis




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Jan 22, 2020, 11:56:55 PM1/22/20
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Seems from Rubiaceae, like any Neanotis sp.- from Nidhan ji. 

Thanks, Nidhan ji.
Could not find any match as per comparative images at Neanotis  - from me



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surajit koley

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Jan 29, 2020, 12:55:23 AM1/29/20
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No idea Sir, though it appears to me to be a Rubiaceae member, as Nidhan Sir suggested, because of its hairy (fimbriate?) growth at the throat of corolla. An investigation in line of Argostemma or ally may (or may not) yield result.

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

J.M. Garg

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Feb 5, 2020, 2:09:44 AM2/5/20
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Seems from Rubiaceae, like any Neanotis sp.- from Nidhan ji. 

Thanks, Nidhan ji.
Could not find any match as per comparative images at Neanotis  - from me

No idea Sir, though it appears to me to be a Rubiaceae member, as Nidhan Sir suggested, because of its hairy (fimbriate?) growth at the throat of corolla. An investigation in line of Argostemma or ally may (or may not) yield result.

Thank you.
With regards,
Surajit Koley 

I checked Argostemma species in efi site as per details herein, but these look a bit different- from me.



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surajit koley

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Feb 5, 2020, 8:19:13 AM2/5/20
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Certainly, Sir, I too couldn't find any Sarcostemma entry in 'FLora of British India' that can be linked with this submitted species. It must be some other taxon that I don't know.


Thank you.

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Surajit Koley

J.M. Garg

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Feb 12, 2020, 2:02:34 AM2/12/20
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Seems from Rubiaceae, like any Neanotis sp.- from Nidhan ji. 

Thanks, Nidhan ji.
Could not find any match as per comparative images at Neanotis  - from me

No idea Sir, though it appears to me to be a Rubiaceae member, as Nidhan Sir suggested, because of its hairy (fimbriate?) growth at the throat of corolla. An investigation in line of Argostemma or ally may (or may not) yield result.

Thank you.
With regards,
Surajit Koley 

I checked Argostemma species in efi site as per details herein, but these look a bit different- from me.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 16, 2021, 9:21:36 AM1/16/21
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Rubiaceae member- Meghalaya 
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 16, 2021, 9:22:16 AM1/16/21
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Rubiaceae member- Meghalaya 
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 23, 2021, 4:44:52 AM1/23/21
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Hi, Kanhaiya Lal ji,
Could you identify it ?

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 23, 2021, 6:32:26 AM1/23/21
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Thanks, Kanhaiya Lal ji

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 at 15:19, Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary <klchau...@gmail.com> wrote:
Not yet Garg ji.

Boea herbacea may be a possibility, but I couldn't access herbarium sheets or photos to match it.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 23, 2021, 7:02:26 AM1/23/21
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I guess iBoea herbacea is not matching according to net images
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


J.M. Garg

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Jan 29, 2021, 7:26:08 AM1/29/21
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Yes, looks different as per GBIF specimens.



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Jan 29, 2021, 7:28:57 AM1/29/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.


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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 29, 2021, 8:01:46 AM1/29/21
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Thank you Mr. Garg!

Saroj Kasaju


J.M. Garg

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Thanks a lot, Ramesh ji.

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It may be Chiratia sp.

Dr. Ramesh Kumar Paliwal
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AJCB, Indian Botanic Garden
Howrah - 3


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  Thanks a lot, Ramesh ji.  

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Microchirita sp.

Dr. Ramesh Kumar Paliwal
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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 7, 2021, 8:11:17 AM2/7/21
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Flower shape looks different from Microchirita sp.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Seems from Rubiaceae, like any Neanotis sp.- from Nidhan ji 

Thanks, Nidhan ji.

Could not find any match as per comparative images at Neanotis- from me 

No idea Sir, though it appears to me to be a Rubiaceae member, as Nidhan Sir suggested, because of its hairy (fimbriate?) growth at the throat of corolla. An investigation in line of Argostemma or ally may (or may not) yield result.
Thank you.
With regards,

Surajit Koley 

I checked Argostemma species in efi site as per details herein, but these look a bit different- from me. 

Certainly, Sir, I too couldn't find any Sarcostemma entry in 'FLora of British India' that can be linked with this submitted species. It must be some other taxon that I don't know.
Thank you.
With regards,

Surajit Koley 

Boea herbacea may be a possibility, but I couldn't access herbarium sheets or photos to match it.- from Kanhiaya lal ji 

I guess Boea herbacea is not matching according to net images
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Yes, looks different as per GBIF specimens.- from me 

It may be Chiratia sp.

Dr. Ramesh Kumar Paliwal 

Flower shape looks different from Microchirita sp.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

 

 

 

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Thanks, Manudev ji

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May be a member of Gesneriaceae.

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member of Rubiaceae only

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May be a member of Gesneriaceae.

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Scrophulariaceae!!

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Yes, does not appear to be a Gesneriaceae as per 
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Thanks, Lalithamba ji

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member of Rubiaceae only

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May be a member of Gesneriaceae.

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I tried Scrophulariaceae also as suggested by Tapas ji, but could not find any match. 
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Not Gesneriaceae and Scrophulariaceae,
It is a Rubiaceae member.

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Psychotria ??
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 2, 2023, 12:02:42 AM3/2/23
to Saroj Kumar Kasaju, efloraindia, Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary, Gurcharan Singh, Paradesi Anjaneyulu, Nidhan Singh
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J.M.Garg

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 2, 2023, 5:06:02 AM3/2/23
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