SK 2920 13 July 2021

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Kathmandu, Central Nepal

Altitude:  1500m.

Date: 09 July 2021

Habit : Wild 

Curcuma angustifolia Roxb. ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

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[Saroj Kasaju]

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Location was difficult so it was not possible to collect rhizome.

I guess flowering was over !

Thank you Dr. Sabu !

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Mamiyil Sabu <msa...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: SK 2920 13 July 2021
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Check the rhizome colour. Any flower photos?

Thanking you,

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Check the rhizome colour. Any flower photos? Thanking you, Sincerely yours, M. Sabu

Location was difficult so it was not possible to collect rhizome.

I guess flowering was over ! Thank you Dr. Sabu ! Saroj Kasaju

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Other images can be seen at 

SK 2920 13 July 2021

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Thanks, Sabu ji

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From: Mamiyil Sabu <>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul, 2021, 8:43 pm
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I could not see the images.

Thanking you,

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

[Saroj Kasaju]

The plant size is taller than 2 m. Could it be Curcuma xanthorrhiza D.Dietr. ??

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwirxI3DxtKAAxVCxTgGHbTLDnoQFnoECA4QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hindawi.com%2Fjournals%2Fecam%2F2021%2F9960813%2F%23%3A~%3Atext%3Dxanthorrhiza%2520is%2520an%2520annual%2520plant%2C18%2520cm)%2520%255B25%255D.&usg=AOvVaw0oOiBwFneCLXc2ltlMLBTH&opi=89978449

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[PreSam]

Curcuma xanthorrhiza has purple along the midvein running through the entire length of the dorsal surface as well as on either side of the midvein on the ventral surface. Additionally the rhizomes are yellow on the inside. I have attached a picture of both the dorsal and ventral surfaces for you to look over. 

Best regards

Prejith Sampath

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Dr. Sampath. 

Any opinion about my sp.?  As I have mentioned before, the sp. is more than 2 m. tall.

I am trying to get rhizomes ASAP.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Prejith Sampath]

From the appearance of the leaves, it looks more like C.aeruginosa which only has a partial purple streak on the dorsal surface. I have not seen the flowers of zanthorrhiza so I can't comment on that. The rhizome I believe could help since I presume it is the only one besides C.longa that has this dark yellow colouration within. I could be wrong though since I only have some experience with the peninsular curcuma.

Best wishes

Prejith 

[Prejith Sampath]

I'm not sure how dependable that article you've attached is. The flower pictured in it is that of a curcuma hybrid called Twister. 

On Fri, 18 Aug, 2023, 3:22 pm Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Saroj Kasaju]

Todai I got  some images which I am enclosing herewith.

The plant measured 2.44 m excluding rhizomes, the tallest I could measure, maybe a  little more taller.

There is a faint tint of dark purple or maroon color in the mid-rib of the leaf, a little  higher from the base

of the leaf.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 6:25 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Smoe images using flash and some without!

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Did you see the additional images,  Dr. Sampath ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 10:38 PM Prejith Sampath <pres...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Dr. Sabu,

This years also I missed the flowers but able to measure the height of the plant 

and get some  rhizomes. I have sent some images . Please have a look at it ! 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Prejith Sampath]

I'm sorry for the late reply. I've been traveling and the last three days have kept me totally busy. I did see the cut rhizome sections but I'm still confused. C.zanthorrhiza has an interior colour that appears similar to C.longa. This appears green to me. Could it be a problem with the software processing on the camera? Does it actually appear yellow to the eye?

Best wishes

Prejith Sampath 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Color of the cut rhizome is light green, not like dark yellow in domestic Turmeric rhizomes.

Oder is slightly like domestic turmeric but does not have a strong smell.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Dr. Sampath.

Can you please tell me the  names of species having a height of above 2.4m.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Prejith Sampath <pres...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:453564] Re: SK 2920 13 July 2021
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

All I can say is it is not aromatica, aeruginosa, longa, zanthorrhiza, amada or haritha... The 6 species found here that propagate through fingers on the rhizomes.

Regards

Prejith Sampath 

[Prejith Sampath]

I have seen zanthorrhiza, aeruginosa and a species with green leaf devoid of the purple midvein (possibly amada or aromatica) grow to that height at higher altitudes.

Best regards

Prejith Sampath 

[J.M. Garg]

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Thanks, Saroj ji

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Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

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Thanks, Saroj ji

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Thanks a lot, Sabu ji

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From: Mamiyil Sabu 
Date: Sun, 24 Sept 2023 at 19:53
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:453564] Re: SK 2920 13 July 2021

To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

C. zanthorrhiza rhizomes are dark orange red in colour like that of C. longa.

Thanking you,

Sincerely yours,

M. Sabu Ph. D., FNA, FASc.

CSIR-Emeritus Scientist, Malabar Botanical Garden & IPS

Calicut, 673014.
Formerly Professor & Head
Department of Botany
University of Calicut
Kerala, 673 635, India
Phone: 91--4952431545
Mobile: 91- 09447636333
Website: www.gingersofindia.com
https://botany.uoc.ac.in/index.php/sunojkumar?id=58

Google scholar:https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=BkXpK9IAAAAJ&hl=en

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Dr. Sabu.

Net images are so confusing that different links give different 

colors of rhizomes. Which to believe ?

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

I have brought a rhizome and planted it at home. It is coming up.

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Young leaves shot today !

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Present status due to wildfire !  Waiting for the flowers !

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https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/qSFHJujlcqU/m/wHGK3Fe0AwAJ

Curcuma aromatica Salisb., only confusion is the height of the plant which is 2.44m. plus 

whereas it has been described as 1 m. everywhere.

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 2:20 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[J.M. Garg]

So, should I take it as Curcuma aromatica Salisb.?

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dr. Sabu has suggested accordingly.

Only confusion is the height of the plant which is 2.44m. plus 

whereas it has been described as 1 m. everywhere.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju