Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sourav ji 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Sourav Mahmud <nature...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu 20 Sep, 2018, 9:29 AM
Subject: Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Picture take, Sep,2018 from Sonadia Island, Cox's Bazar

Md Sharif Hossain Sourav

Junior Specialist 

Ecology, Forestry and Biodiversity Division

CEGIS

www.cegisbd.com

Cell: +88-01716633633

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for id pl 

[Ushadi Micromini]

karabi gaachh

usha di

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--

Usha di
===========

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ushadi.

What is that? 

[Ushadi Micromini]

oleander

--

Usha di
===========

[Ushadi Micromini]

there is a pic that matches this plants leafing habit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerium#/media/File:Nerium_oleander_Ouarzazate_wild2.jpg

not all neriums show that sort of growing vertically up habit of its branches

many droop

usha di 

--

Usha di
===========

[Sourav Mahmud]

Nerium oleander  seems to me, however  it is fully a mangrove habitat. 

Md Sharif Hossain Sourav

Junior Specialist 

Ecology, Forestry and Biodiversity Division

CEGIS

www.cegisbd.com

Cell: +88-01716633633

[Ushadi Micromini]

happens

parts of ganges delta is often much below sea level, but we see karabi gaachh all over, culivated or wild

and thriving

usha di

--

Usha di
===========

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ushadi and Sourav ji.

I initially thought of this but stayed away for some unknown reasons. 

[Ushadi Micromini]

yes i was going to also

but i see a lot of these around my home

and felt ok by calling its bangla name

usually the branches and leaves droop, but this case it was upright

but that's not entirely unheard of

as in the link i found.

i also hope and wish that by now sourav would have acquired how to take telling pictures,but he does not  take enough or appropriate pictures

stem //trunk of this tree would have also helped, and possible fruits

but what can you do

usha di

--

Usha di
===========

[Sourav Mahmud]

Thanks Ushadi ji, actually where the plant is located, it is not possible to reach me easily. I have taken through my tle lens from a moving boat. Mangrove fprest in coastal line is mixed with muddy mudflats, huge erect pnematophore, mud snke and thorny shurbs.

Regards

Sourav

[Ushadi Micromini]

thats ok  sourav.  i made do with one

and gave you the dx. in this case

but when you are on solid grounds

do follow those great photographers we have

like Dinesh valke

anurag sharma

Prashant awale

etc

thats all

usha di

--

Usha di
===========

[J.M. Garg]

Could not find a match as per comparative images at Apocynaceae‎

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 09:55
Subject: Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Sourav Mahmud <nature...@gmail.com>

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia. 

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which 1,00,000 are directly displayed).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

[Ushadi Micromini]

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/nerium/nerium-oleander

look at leaves

longish narrow leaves with a single whitish vein

look esp at dinesh's photos

question remains 

the leaves are paired in the twigs here in this picture

we need to either finf a herbariun picture or tommorow when i go out i will stop at several neriun trees on my way to the market

and inspect the leaf attachment/

usha di 

--

Usha di
===========

[Ushadi Micromini]

also see this pic on that page in our website

https://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/8d802d2948848188/DSCN7545.jpg?part=0.5&view=1&vt=ANaJVrF4Olj-ivID94FGYbFt0K7_ypRxDGCsc8M86Mga2GVUk5u6mll0VFRdR7rhQohKI_mYGbx9u_Lbt4pcPacPAC5w2mM6boaParWj2GARQtRgWWOHZ18

and see balkar's case for leaf attachments

--

Usha di
===========

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ushadi.

I have checked all these before. But the posted plant is different. On the right hand side in the posted image, it also shows remnants of flowers. But it is difficult to guess based on these. 

[Ushadi Micromini]

I have deleted thread my my gmail

so went back to forum

looked at it

i do see some vague out of focus brown debris on the 

and some round cup shaped receptacle like something

but i think

its mangrove

lots of debris is possible

i dont see anything like a withering flower

may be i am missing it?

can you circle the area you mean?

thanks

--

Usha di
===========

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. see right most portion just above the middle. 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu 20 Sep, 2018, 9:55 AM
Subject: Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Sourav Mahmud <nature...@gmail.com>

[Ushadi Micromini]

i did, 

some brown stuff

and a linear brown?

i still think its debris

===

may be Tapas da could help himself or suggest someone who knows ganges /padma river delta well

and may be they would know if other trees/shrubs have these nerium like leaves

==

the sender has no more information

he has not even responded if Karabi/rakta karabi gaacch is seen in the area he was observing.

he does not seem to take part in these discussion, which are really for his benefit.

==

FOc says: 

Nerium indicum Miller; N. odorum Solander.

Stem to 6 m tall. Leaves very narrowly elliptic, 5-21 X 1-3.5 cm, leathery, base cuneate or decurrent on petiole, apex acuminate or acute

the only few trees or shrubs i am familiar with that have such narrowly elliptical leaves are olive and false olive.

1:   Olea europaea 

2: Phillyrea angustifolia

i donot know if either of these would be found growing wild in bangladesh southern most watery marshes

if i had to bet, i would chose Phillyrea as my second choice.

3. one could also take a stab at looking up

Osmanthus sp. some have narrowly elliptical leaves

==

i am going to stop here

i have spent a great deal of energy and time  remembering and searching and looking up,

 for something that the sender almost has no input in all these days.

iti / fini for me

good luck

and

thank you for your true diligence for the true id.

i appreciate it

usha di 

--

Usha di
===========

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Nerium species ?- Sonadia

Group discussion at

Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Nerium species ?- Sonadia

Group discussion at

Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2 (google.com)

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 9:55:43 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Cc: nature...@gmail.com <nature...@gmail.com>

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Island, Cox's Bazar, Bangladesh

Group discussion at

Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Island, Cox's Bazar, Bangladesh

Group discussion at

Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2 (google.com)

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 9:55:43 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: Plant ID from Bangladesh_SM_4009-2
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: nature...@gmail.com <nature...@gmail.com>

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

May or may not be, 

Need more information,

With regards.

Sender notified by Mailtrack 04/16/21, 07:28:26 PM

--

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.

To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/f1a7d3fe-c863-43d8-b538-3d3d4ce7e4ecn%40googlegroups.com.

[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

This does not  look like Nerium.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju