Nilgiris: Rubiaceae for identification 311012MK02

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Muthu Karthick

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:09:12 AM10/31/12
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Dear all,

Please help me to identify this tree species found planted in an urban area of Ooty. Tree height is up to 6 metres.

Leaf: 18 x 6 cm
Flower: 2cm long
Fruit: 3 x 0.5 cm

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Muthu Karthick

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:27:21 AM10/31/12
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Place: Ooty town, Nilgiris, TN
Date: 12 Oct 2012
Alt: c. 2100 m asl

ushadi Micromini

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Oct 31, 2012, 7:45:19 AM10/31/12
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GORGEOUS flowers...

Me too I would love to know what it is, and can it grow in hot wet tropics with black clay soil as in WB ?

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Muthu Karthick <nmk...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Aarti S. Khale

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Nov 2, 2012, 1:24:26 PM11/2/12
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Very beautiful flowers
Sterculia species? Just a guess
Aarti

jmgarg1

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Nov 7, 2012, 3:33:03 AM11/7/12
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

 Very beautiful flowers

Sterculia species? Just a guess
Aarti


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Franklin Charles Jose

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:09:25 AM11/7/12
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It is Cinchona plant
regards
Franklin

ushadi Micromini

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Nov 7, 2012, 9:14:01 AM11/7/12
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Franklin might just be very right...
I had forgotten these flowers...
this reminds me...
it may be...

usha di

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Satish Phadke

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:30:54 AM11/7/12
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Yes I could find similar images on searching for Cinchona....
It looks like Cinchona pubescens.

Dr Satish Phadke


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jmgarg1

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Nov 12, 2012, 3:45:28 AM11/12/12
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

 It is Cinchona plant

regards
Franklin

 Franklin might just be very right... I had forgotten these flowers...


this reminds me... it may be...
usha di

 Yes I could find similar images on searching for Cinchona....


It looks like Cinchona pubescens.
Dr Satish Phadke

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Date: 31 October 2012 12:39
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jmgarg1

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Nov 13, 2012, 1:39:14 AM11/13/12
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"A beautiful addition to our floral data. I liked the plant and the photographs." from Mahadeswara ji.

Muthu Karthick

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Dear Sathishji,
The link http://www.tropicos.org/Name/27900681 shows pictures of C. pubescens (C. succirubra); which does not match the tree I posted.

I think the tree may be C. officinalis L. as in http://www.tropicos.org/Name/27900157

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 8, 2021, 6:50:54 AM1/8/21
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Cinchona officinalis ? 
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 8, 2021, 6:55:32 AM1/8/21
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Cinchona officinalis ? 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 8, 2021, 8:34:35 AM1/8/21
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Looks more close to Cinchona calisaya Wedd.  FoPI
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 8, 2021, 11:13:31 AM1/8/21
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Thanks Saroj ji




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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 8, 2021, 11:15:39 AM1/8/21
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My pleasure.
Thank you Gurucharan sir!

Saroj Kasaju


J.M. Garg

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Jan 13, 2021, 2:04:51 AM1/13/21
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There seems to be some confusion here about it's correct identity.  

All three species listed in Flora of Penionsular India are cultivated here from South America and appear quite close. But it does not give any keys. 
According to M.Sanjappa ji's images in Flora of Peninsular India, it may be close to Cinchona calisaya. But it shows its distribution in Idukki district of Kerala.
FOI lists similar plant from Niligirs (from where Muthu ji has posted) as Cinchona pubescens Vahl (syn: Cinchona subsessilis Miq.), identified by Santhosh ji. Flora of Peninsular India gives its distribution in the area. 
GBIF also gives a specimen from this area, which appears close. 

Flora of China gives keys as per which it is more likely to be C. pubescens
It say:
"Several species of Cinchona are the natural source of quinine, which has long been used worldwide as a treatment for malaria. Quinine is found along with several other alkaloids in high concentrations in some species of Cinchona, particularly the bark; these alkaloids give the plants their bitter taste. Cinchona is native to South America, where its species are not all well differentiated, are morphologically variable, and hybridize freely especially in cultivation, where numerous artificial hybrids have been created. Cinchona was recently monographed by Andersson (Mem. New York Bot. Gard. 80: 1-75. 1998), followed here, who clarified the identities of the commonly cultivated species. "
 
In view, I feel it may be Cinchona pubescens Vahl (syn: Cinchona subsessilis Miq.),


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J.M. Garg

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Aug 4, 2022, 12:54:15 PMAug 4
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Taking it as Cinchona calisaya Wedd.as per distribution given in BSI Flora of India Checklist

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