Ocimum??060410-PKA1

[Prashant awale]

Dear Friends,
Came across this herb at Mizoram. Resembles some Ocimum sp??. This was found in wild in the forest cover.

Botanical name:	Ocimum sp??
Family:	Lamiaceae ?
Date/Time-	10th November /11:20 AM
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-	Mizoram (Ailang)
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-	Wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-	Herb
Height/Length-	20 to 40 cm high
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-	Hairy, Opposite, 1 to 2 cm X 0.5 to 1.5 cm ,  base rounded, tapered towards apex,   margins toothed,  petioles 8 to 10mm,
Inflorescence Type/ Size-	-
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-	-
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-	-
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-	--

regards
Prashant

[tanay bose]

Dear Prasant Ji,

The stem of this plant looks cylindrical to me, Lamiaceae has a square stem ...... can please validate from the original photos where my observation is right?

Regards

Tanay

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[Prashant awale]

Dear Tanay ji,
I checked with other photos. Not able to conclude but as u said, it does look some what cylindrical. A close up of stem would have helped us.
 I was initially thinking that it could be some Mentha sp. .
regards
Prashant

[tanay bose]

Dear Prasant Ji,

As you said I am also confirmed that the stem is cylindrical and if it is so then Mentha sp can be ruled out because it has a square [4-angled] stem as far as I know. Most of the Lamiaceae members have square stem which is diagonistic character if the family. But I am referring a name because the stem can be 4-angled but due to photographic angle its not visible. then i will say.......

 

Mentha asiatica Borissova Bekrjasheva, Bot. Mater. Gerb. Bot. Inst. Komorova Akad. Nauk S.S.S.R. 6: 280. 1954.

 

Herbs rhizomatous, perennial. Stems erect, (30-)50-120(-150) cm, few branched, densely minutely tomentose. Petiole 0.1-0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic to oblong-lanceolate, 3-8 × 1-2.5 cm, sometimes folded and curved downward, sometimes glaucous, appressed crisped minutely tomentose, glandular, base rounded to broadly cuneate, margin remotely unequal dentate, apex acute. Verticillasters in terminal cylindric spikes 3-8 × 1-1.4 cm; bracts linear to subulate, 5-7 mm; bracteoles subulate, nearly as long as calyx. Pedicel ca. 1 mm. Calyx ± purple-red, campanulate to funnelform, 1.5-2 mm, appressed pubescent, obscurely veined; teeth linear, close together in fruit. Corolla purple-red, 4-5 mm, pilose, tube gradually dilated, lobes ca. 1 mm; upper lobe oblong-ovate, ca. 2 × 1.5 mm, apex emarginate. Nutlets brown, ca. 1 mm, apex pilose, pitted. Fl. Jul-Aug, fr. Aug-Oct.

 

I find most character of this plant matches with with your specimen hence I am suggestion it. Characters which I have found common i coloured them in blue with bold letter please donot Take it otherwise I have only done this so that you can try to compare them with the original photos. Kindly validate ot wait for more better suggestions by experts.

 

Regards

Tanay

[Satish Chile]

Dear Tanay ji,

I also agree with you for Mentha asiatica color of corrlla and calyx and some other characters of the photographs match with the description of the said sp. Hope the id is correct.

Satish

Dr. Satish Kumar Chile

[tanay bose]

Dear Satish ji ,

I also hope for the best!! This plant made me go through several floras and now if it is wrong then I will be extremely sad !!

Regards

Tanay

[Gurcharan Singh]

Tanay

Perhaps you may not have to be sad, it is closest call. I have seen a lot of M. longifolia (from which it is not very distinct) in Kashmir, the only thing which worries me that the inflorescence is unusually long in in ourplant today.

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[Parjanya guru]

Dear All.

 Any possibility of  Pogostemon...???

 

[tanay bose]

Dear Gurcharan ji,
You have caught my thought, this inflorescence is too long and also robust but sir  due to the leaf character I feel hard to identify it as M longifolia.
Regards
Tanay

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear Tanay

Dear Tanay, I did'nt mean to call it M. longifolia. If it can be identified with M. longifolia, then surely it is more correctly M. asiatica, I meant inflorescence is too long and robust for both the species.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[tanay bose]

Dear Gurcharan Ji,
I Just told you that as u discussed the matter with me. Sorry if you have thought that I meant to say that you suggested M longifolia, you never told this name. Sorry For the misunderstanding I have created please pardon me for the innocence.
Regards
Tanay

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Dear Prasant Ji,

As you said I am also confirmed that the stem is cylindrical and if it is so then Mentha sp can be ruled out because it has a square [4-angled] stem as far as I know. Most of the Lamiaceae members have square stem which is diagonistic character if the family. But I am referring a name because the stem can be 4-angled but due to photographic angle its not visible. then i will say.......
 
Mentha asiatica Borissova Bekrjasheva, Bot. Mater. Gerb. Bot. Inst. Komorova Akad. Nauk S.S.S.R. 6: 280. 1954.
 
Herbs rhizomatous, perennial. Stems erect, (30-)50-120(-150) cm, few branched, densely minutely tomentose. Petiole 0.1-0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic to oblong-lanceolate, 3-8 × 1-2.5 cm, sometimes folded and curved downward, sometimes glaucous, appressed crisped minutely tomentose, glandular, base rounded to broadly cuneate, margin remotely unequal dentate, apex acute. Verticillasters in terminal cylindric spikes 3-8 × 1-1.4 cm; bracts linear to subulate, 5-7 mm; bracteoles subulate, nearly as long as calyx. Pedicel ca. 1 mm. Calyx ± purple-red, campanulate to funnelform, 1.5-2 mm, appressed pubescent, obscurely veined; teeth linear, close together in fruit. Corolla purple-red, 4-5 mm, pilose, tube gradually dilated, lobes ca. 1 mm; upper lobe oblong-ovate, ca. 2 × 1.5 mm, apex emarginate. Nutlets brown, ca. 1 mm, apex pilose, pitted. Fl. Jul-Aug, fr. Aug-Oct.
 
I find most character of this plant matches with with your specimen hence I am suggestion it. Characters which I have found common i coloured them in blue with bold letter please donot Take it otherwise I have only done this so that you can try to compare them with the original photos. Kindly validate ot wait for more better suggestions by experts.
 
Regards

Tanay”

 

“Dear Tanay ji,

I also agree with you for Mentha asiatica color of corrlla and calyx and some other characters of the photographs match with the description of the said sp. Hope the id is correct.

Satish”

 

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[Satish Chile]

Mentha asiatica as per earlier opinion.

Satish  

Dr. Satish Kumar Chile

[Prashant awale]

Dear friends,
While interacting with Dr V.Sampath Kumar ji, he indicated that this could  be some sp. of "Elsholtzia". I had cropped few pics. Requesting you to have a fresh look.

regards
Prashant

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Prashant awale <pka...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

E. stauntonii seems to be the closest call

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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“While interacting with Dr V.Sampath Kumar ji, he indicated that this could  be some sp. of "Elsholtzia". I had cropped few pics. Requesting you to have a fresh look.

regards
Prashant”

 

“E. stauntonii seems to be the closest call.

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Mint shrub.

promila

[JM Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“While interacting with Dr V.Sampath Kumar ji, he indicated that this could be some sp. of "Elsholtzia". I had cropped few pics. Requesting you to have a fresh look.

regards
Prashant”

“E. stauntonii seems to be the closest call.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

 

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A reply:

"Well. The close look shows it might be Ocimum or Orthosiphon (the stamens are much longer)

Sampath Kumar
DR. V. SAMPATH KUMAR
Scientist,
Central National Herbarium,
Botanical Survey of India,
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Thanks a lot, Dr. Tapas & Dr. Sampath Kumar.

 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID 

Distributed as  Ocimum species ?- Ailang, Mizoram

As suggested earlier elsholtzia stauntonii seems closest call

Group discussion at

Ocimum??060410-PKA1 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID 

Distributed as  Ocimum species ?- Ailang, Mizoram

As suggested earlier elsholtzia stauntonii seems closest call

Group discussion at

Ocimum??060410-PKA1 (google.com)

[Saroj Kasaju]

Pogostemon hispidus (Benth.) Prain

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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