Gentiana species 03 from Paddar valley J&K

[Suresh Kumar Rana]

Request for identification

Kindly identify this Gentiana species

Location: Paddar valley J&K

Altitude: 2000 meters asl

Date: 19th April 2012

Habit/habitat: Wild herb

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Suresh Rana

[Gurcharan Singh]

Perhaps Gentiana aquatica. Please upload a close up of flower.

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[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

“Perhaps Gentiana aquatica. Please upload a close up of flower.” from Singh ji.

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[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again forId confirmation orotherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

“Perhaps Gentiana aquatica. Please upload a close up of flower.” from Singh ji.

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Date: 27 June 2012 01:22
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[Gurcharan Singh]

Gentiana aquatica for confirmation

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/jZZRygk8-00

Gurcharan

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji

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[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

The photos not being fully in focus or the exposure satisfactory (it is often difficult to expose correctly white and yellow flowers on sunny days) make this especially hard.

Gentiana (and now related genera) is a difficult genus, as I have said previously.  Which Gentiana aquatica is suggested as an ID?  Stewart lists 4 under this name with 3 reduced to synonyms.  He had G.aquatica L. from N.Pakistan and Ladakh (not Kashmir) with G.humilis Stev., G.prostrata Boiss (non Haenke) as synoyms also cf. G.pseudoaquatica Kusnez. 

Dickore & Klimes in the most up-to-date check-list for Ladakh (2005) list none of these - only G.prostrata Haenke.

But the low elevation and spring flowering will eliminate some gentians from consideration.

At some stage, I would like to take a serious look at Gentianaceae of NW Himalaya but this is quite a challenge and have yet to find the time to focus properly on the family.   SO many other genera belonging to other families also urgently need attention (indeed revision).  So many families and genera are poorly known in the Himalaya.

So this is all I can do at this stage.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ki

[J.M. Garg]

Does not seem to match with images of Gentiana aquatica at

http://floragreif.uni-greifswald.de/floragreif/taxon/?flora_search=Image&record_id=15399

http://www.gentians.be/?page=plant_portraits&pic=38

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/54503.html

http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=213061&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=9&size=1

http://linnean-online.org/32861/

http://tropicos.org/Image/100143079?projectid=1

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Shabir ji,

May I request for id of this post.

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Date: 27 June 2012 at 01:22
Subject: [efloraofindia:120417] Gentiana species 03 from Paddar valley J&K

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Gentiana species- Paddar valley, J & K

Group discussion at

Gentiana species 03 from Paddar valley J&K (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Gentiana species- Paddar valley, J & K

Group discussion at

Gentiana species 03 from Paddar valley J&K (google.com)

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