Small Tree For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 090814 : AK-2

[Aarti S. Khale]

Found this small tree with unusual leaves on 29/7/14.

No flowers or fruits.

Id please.

Aarti

[girish kumar ellezhuthil]

Leaves look like a bignoniaceae...even simple...

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Resurfacing for id please.

Aarti

[Aarti S. Khale]

This remains unidentified.

Adding pictures taken in April this year.

Aarti

[Ushadi Micromini]

Aarti

many of these leaves seem eaten up

or torn, physically

do you have pictures of some intactleaves showing the different shapes of leaves?

and the tree trunk and bark pics???

If it is really different leaf shape

i know what it is 

but i would like to have the data from you first

thanks

usha di

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[Mahadeswara]

Blind guess :  Pterygota alata  or related plant.

[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,

It's a very small tree. Don't have the pictures of bark or tree trunk.

These are the leaves I had added in my first post.

Regards,

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.

I also feel the same. 

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[Ushadi Micromini]

well Mahadeswara ji is right, sort of. :)

its called the MAD tree// Pagla gachh 

a unique variant of Pterygota alata, 

called Pterygota alata diversifolia

budhhas coconut

on our page https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/pterygota/pterygota-alata

Padmini Raghavan has shown the diversity of the fallen leaves

so far from the discussions

i surmise

there is at least one specimen in Kolkata (Agri Horti,);  Shibpur ( Botanical garden,);   Chennai (Agri horti)  Bangalore (IISC campus)

and now Bangalore (Lalbagh)

good documentation of occurrence

I know you go back to Lalbagh often

next few years if you remember you can help guage its growth over the years.

usha di

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ushadi, 

One of the highest and straightish/ longish trees I have possibly seen in Kolkata. One is in Agri horticulture society, another in Turf view near race course and another one in Garden reach area of South Eastern Railway. 

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[Ushadi Micromini]

gargji

wow

they were all pagla gachh in so many locations?

?

or the regular buddhas coconut tree?

usha di

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[Raman Arunachalam]

I actually found a family but not the exact genus,  but let me try to remember and send a mail. 

Raman

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[Ushadi Micromini]

I wrote the following but by mistake went only to Raman 

hence for sake of completion , this is sent in usha di

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From: Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:300273] Re: Small Tree For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 090814 : AK-2
To: Raman Arunachalam <raman_ar...@yahoo.com>

Hi

i thought it is a Mad tree

Pterygotta alata diversifolia

please look at reponses above

in this thread

Re: Small Tree For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 090814 : AK-2

usha di

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[J.M. Garg]

Pterygota alata diversifolia is available only in Agri Horticulture Society. 

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Mahadeswara Ji, Garg Ji, Usha Di, Raman Ji,

Thanks a lot for the id of this long pending post of mine.

Pterygota alata var. irregularis could be a Syn?

Thanks again.

Regards,

Aarti

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[Ushadi Micromini]

yes Garg ji  

the shibpur notation was ffrom what i remembered something Tanay had 

said many years ago and i had even gone to shibpur

not finding it

i thought it was my failure

but today your comment reassures me. 

there are some regular pterygolta alatatrees , spectacularly tall ones in victoria memorial grounds, 

both eastern and western boundary 

most birds of prey like to nest on top to watch and be safe.

esp vultures as they tried to recover themselves from oblivion  from 

the diclofenac disaster.

usha di

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[Ushadi Micromini]

yea

but you dont have an id till raman get back to us with his memory of the flower 

and possible id

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[Ushadi Micromini]

Gargji

this case is not complete

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[Raman Arunachalam]

I tried to remember and searched, but not able to remember.

Will keep looking for it.

Raman

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Bignoniaceae member ?

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Bignoniaceae member ?

Group discussion at

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Gurcharan Ji,

Thanks for forwarding my earlier post from Lalbagh in Bangalore.

Regards,

Aarti