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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
Interesting Saussurea species. A trans-Himalayan one as I suppose. |
This is a new 'species' for me but I am doubtful it is S.inversa on the basis of the image taken in Paddar Valley named as such on the FOI site see: http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Inverse%20Snow%20Lotus.html which is presumably where the provisional name came from matching with? Not recorded from Ladakh or known in Stewart's day (assuming it is found in W.Himalaya). Not in 'Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal'. Many 'new' species have been described in the Himalaya in recent decades - a complicated genus (like so many). As for existing species, there is much confusion between S.simpsoniana and S.gossypiphora in the W.Himalaya. As two of our members named the image on the FOI site they are in a much better position to comment further, especially as I do not recognise these images or the one from the Paddar Valley but the images do not come close to me. Just noticed that an article on Research Gate, see: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272383552_The_genus_Saussurea_Compositae_Cardueae_in_China_Taxonomic_and_nomenclatural_notes states that S.sorocephala var. glabrata is raised to specific rank as S.inversa. Stewart had S.sorocephala Schrenk as a synonym of S.gnaphalodes (which is common in Laadkh); he thought this variety seemed to be the same as S.hypsipeta Diels (yet does not list this species in his Catalogue) and probably should be considered only to be a glabrate form. Saussurea hypsipeta is listed by Dickore & Klimes from Ladakh - there is an excellent image of it by our member Miroslav: http://www.butbn.cas.cz/ladakh/fotky/flora/subnival_eng.html. Clearly, Miroslav may be able to comment in a more informed way than me. |
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To me it appears close to Saussurea glacialis Herder as per image herein. |
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Interesting Saussurea species. A trans-Himalayan one as I suppose.
S. inversa is not known in Uttarakhand. DSRawat Pantnagar |
This is a new 'species' for me but I am doubtful it is S.inversa on the basis of the image taken in Paddar Valley named as such on the FOI site see: http://www.flowersofindia.net/ catalog/slides/Inverse%20Snow% 20Lotus.html which is presumably where the provisional name came from matching with? Not recorded from Ladakh or known in Stewart's day (assuming it is found in W.Himalaya). Not in 'Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal'. Many 'new' species have been described in the Himalaya in recent decades - a complicated genus (like so many). |
As for existing species, there is much confusion between S.simpsoniana and S.gossypiphora in the W.Himalaya. As two of our members named the image on the FOI site they are in a much better position to comment further, especially as I do not recognise these images or the one from the Paddar Valley but the images do not come close to me. |
Just noticed that an article on Research Gate, see: https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/272383552_The_ genus_Saussurea_Compositae_ Cardueae_in_China_Taxonomic_ and_nomenclatural_notes states that S.sorocephala var. glabrata is raised to specific rank as S.inversa. Stewart had S.sorocephala Schrenk as a synonym of S.gnaphalodes (which is common in Laadkh); he thought this variety seemed to be the same as S.hypsipeta Diels (yet does not list this species in his Catalogue) and probably should be considered only to be a glabrate form. Saussurea hypsipeta is listed by Dickore & Klimes from Ladakh - there is an excellent image of it by our member Miroslav: http://www.butbn.cas.cz/ ladakh/fotky/flora/subnival_ eng.html. |
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