For id- 140821- PK2

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 22, 2021, 6:59:33 AM8/22/21
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From Priya ji:
Location: Sanasar Meadow
2100m amsl
Date-14-08-2021
Habitat-wild

Earlier Feedback:
Pl. check comparative images at Cirsium- from me

Suggestion:Check for Cirsium quercetorum ???- from Mahadeshwara ji
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 29, 2021, 2:06:26 AM8/29/21
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Likely to be Cirsium argyracanthum DC., as per images and details herein.  
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 14, 2021, 7:18:51 AM12/14/21
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I think Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Spreng. as per images and keys herein.  
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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 16, 2021, 2:16:15 AM12/16/21
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C. falconeri without any doubt. See very fine long involucre bracts.

J.M. Garg

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Dec 21, 2021, 5:59:07 AM12/21/21
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Looks much different in all respects as per images at Cirsium falconeri

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 31, 2021, 7:31:23 AM12/31/21
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Very surely C. falconeri

J.M. Garg

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Dec 31, 2021, 10:17:43 AM12/31/21
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I feel different from your postings of C. falconeri

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 31, 2021, 11:51:27 AM12/31/21
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I don't think any other species such slender and long spines.

J.M. Garg

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Dec 31, 2021, 12:04:24 PM12/31/21
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As per keys from BSI Flora of India at Cirsium falconeri from Kashmir-GS31122021-1:
6a. Heads densely woolly, subsolitary, drooping3. Cirsium falconeri
b. Heads not densley woolly, usually glabrate, solitary or fascicled, inclined6. Cirsium verutum

Heads here are not drooping (as in C.falconeri) but inclined. 

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 6, 2022, 12:13:20 AM1/6/22
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:05:17 AM1/6/22
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Another C. falconeri I think

J.M. Garg

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:38:29 AM1/6/22
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 6, 2022, 2:49:05 AM1/6/22
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Pl. also see GBIF specimen- one and two, matching with it.
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