Michelia champaka -blooming in Chennai
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ajinkya gadave
Jul 12, 2010, 3:11:24 AM7/12/10
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Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
this is Desmos praecox
Family: Annonaceae
this is Desmos praecox
Family: Annonaceae
Tabish
Jul 12, 2010, 3:31:02 AM7/12/10
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This looks like Ylang Ylang (Cananga odorata)
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Ylang%20Ylang.html
- Tabish
On Jul 12, 12:11 pm, ajinkya gadave <ajinkyagad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
>
> this is Desmos praecox
> Family: Annonaceae
>
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Ylang%20Ylang.html
- Tabish
On Jul 12, 12:11 pm, ajinkya gadave <ajinkyagad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
>
> this is Desmos praecox
> Family: Annonaceae
>
mani nair
Jul 12, 2010, 3:31:11 AM7/12/10
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Yes this Desmos praecox from the Sitaphal family.
Regards,
Mani.
Tabish
Jul 12, 2010, 3:35:32 AM7/12/10
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I think Mani's suggestion is right, Desmos praecox. Looks quite
similar to Ylang Ylang.
- Tabish
On Jul 12, 12:31 pm, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes this Desmos praecox from the Sitaphal family.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.
>
similar to Ylang Ylang.
- Tabish
On Jul 12, 12:31 pm, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes this Desmos praecox from the Sitaphal family.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, ajinkya gadave <ajinkyagad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
>
> > this is Desmos praecox
> > Family: Annonaceae
>
>
> > Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
>
> > this is Desmos praecox
> > Family: Annonaceae
>
tanay bose
Jul 12, 2010, 7:39:28 AM7/12/10
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Desmos praecox indeed!!
Close up of the flowers from the link below
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Desmos_praecox.htm
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Close up of the flowers from the link below
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Desmos_praecox.htm
Tanay
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Rashida Atthar
Jul 12, 2010, 9:42:36 AM7/12/10
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Excellent comparative pictures Ajinkya ji. Thanks.
regards,
Rashida.
Padmini Raghavan
Jul 13, 2010, 1:29:34 PM7/13/10
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I can appreciate the fact that it is related to Sitaphal as the leaves were hanging down in pairs just like those of Sitaphal.
Padmini Raghavan.
malyada
Jul 13, 2010, 11:58:31 PM7/13/10
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Yes, the comparative pictures are great. Does anyone know the common
name for Desmos?
Checked out on flowersofindia, not present there as well.
On Jul 13, 10:29 pm, Padmini Raghavan <padi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can appreciate the fact that it is related to Sitaphal as the leaves were
> hanging down in pairs just like those of Sitaphal.
> Padmini Raghavan.
>
name for Desmos?
Checked out on flowersofindia, not present there as well.
On Jul 13, 10:29 pm, Padmini Raghavan <padi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can appreciate the fact that it is related to Sitaphal as the leaves were
> hanging down in pairs just like those of Sitaphal.
> Padmini Raghavan.
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:01 PM, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes this Desmos praecox from the Sitaphal family.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Mani.
>
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, ajinkya gadave <
> > Yes this Desmos praecox from the Sitaphal family.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Mani.
>
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, ajinkya gadave <
> > ajinkyagad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
>
> >> this is Desmos praecox
> >> Family: Annonaceae
>
>
> >> Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
>
> >> this is Desmos praecox
> >> Family: Annonaceae
>
Tabish
Jul 14, 2010, 12:51:16 AM7/14/10
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Desmos species are commonly known as Unona. Desmos praecox may be
called Early-Flowering Unona.
- Tabish
called Early-Flowering Unona.
- Tabish
Tabish
Jul 14, 2010, 2:41:33 AM7/14/10
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After looking at this closely, it appears to me that instead of being
Desmos praecox, this one could be Desmos chinensis (Syn: Unona
discolor), for the following reasons:
1. Desmos praecox is supposed to flower in February, much earlier than
other Desmos species, as indicated by the species name "praecox" which
means early flowering. Padmini's pictures were taken in early July.
So, flowering time doesn't quite agree.
2. Leaves of Desmos praecox are described as lanceshaped, long-pointed
(acuminate). Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described as ovate-
lanceshaped, with somewhat cordate base. Leaves in Padmini's pictures
appear to be with a flat base, not really a pointed base, and look too
broad to be called lanceshaped.
3. Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described to be smooth above, and
glaucous below. In Padmini's 3rd picture, the galucous underside of
some leaves is visible.
4. Flowers of Desmos chinensis are supposed to be very fragrant. I
could not find mention of any prominent fragrance in the description
of Desmos praecox.
Comments from experts are needed.
PS: Pictures on toptropicals.com may not be 100% trustworthy.
- Tabish
Desmos praecox, this one could be Desmos chinensis (Syn: Unona
discolor), for the following reasons:
1. Desmos praecox is supposed to flower in February, much earlier than
other Desmos species, as indicated by the species name "praecox" which
means early flowering. Padmini's pictures were taken in early July.
So, flowering time doesn't quite agree.
2. Leaves of Desmos praecox are described as lanceshaped, long-pointed
(acuminate). Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described as ovate-
lanceshaped, with somewhat cordate base. Leaves in Padmini's pictures
appear to be with a flat base, not really a pointed base, and look too
broad to be called lanceshaped.
3. Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described to be smooth above, and
glaucous below. In Padmini's 3rd picture, the galucous underside of
some leaves is visible.
4. Flowers of Desmos chinensis are supposed to be very fragrant. I
could not find mention of any prominent fragrance in the description
of Desmos praecox.
Comments from experts are needed.
PS: Pictures on toptropicals.com may not be 100% trustworthy.
- Tabish
Tabish
Jul 14, 2010, 2:43:04 AM7/14/10
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One more this which I forgot to add is that in Desmos praecox the
flowers appear either before the leaves, or with young leaves. Here,
they appear with seemingly mature leaves.
- Tabish
flowers appear either before the leaves, or with young leaves. Here,
they appear with seemingly mature leaves.
- Tabish
J.M. Garg
Sep 4, 2010, 6:21:01 AM9/4/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
Earlier relevant feedback:
“Padmini jee this is not Michelia champaka
this is Desmos praecox
Family: Annonaceae” from Ajinkya ji.
“Yes this Desmos praecox from the Sitaphal family.
Regards,
Mani.”
“Desmos praecox indeed!!
Close up of the flowers from the link below
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Desmos_praecox.htm
Tanay”http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Desmos_praecox.htm
"After looking at this closely, it appears to me that instead of being
Desmos praecox, this one could be Desmos chinensis (Syn: Unona
discolor), for the following reasons:
1. Desmos praecox is supposed to flower in February, much earlier than
other Desmos species, as indicated by the species name "praecox" which
means early flowering. Padmini's pictures were taken in early July.
So, flowering time doesn't quite agree.
2. Leaves of Desmos praecox are described as lanceshaped, long-pointed
(acuminate). Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described as ovate-
lanceshaped, with somewhat cordate base. Leaves in Padmini's pictures
appear to be with a flat base, not really a pointed base, and look too
broad to be called lanceshaped.
3. Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described to be smooth above, and
glaucous below. In Padmini's 3rd picture, the galucous underside of
some leaves is visible.
4. Flowers of Desmos chinensis are supposed to be very fragrant. I
could not find mention of any prominent fragrance in the description
of Desmos praecox.
Comments from experts are needed.
PS: Pictures on toptropicals.com may not be 100% trustworthy.
- Tabish"
Desmos praecox, this one could be Desmos chinensis (Syn: Unona
discolor), for the following reasons:
1. Desmos praecox is supposed to flower in February, much earlier than
other Desmos species, as indicated by the species name "praecox" which
means early flowering. Padmini's pictures were taken in early July.
So, flowering time doesn't quite agree.
2. Leaves of Desmos praecox are described as lanceshaped, long-pointed
(acuminate). Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described as ovate-
lanceshaped, with somewhat cordate base. Leaves in Padmini's pictures
appear to be with a flat base, not really a pointed base, and look too
broad to be called lanceshaped.
3. Leaves of Desmos chinensis are described to be smooth above, and
glaucous below. In Padmini's 3rd picture, the galucous underside of
some leaves is visible.
4. Flowers of Desmos chinensis are supposed to be very fragrant. I
could not find mention of any prominent fragrance in the description
of Desmos praecox.
Comments from experts are needed.
PS: Pictures on toptropicals.com may not be 100% trustworthy.
- Tabish"
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J.M. Garg
Sep 9, 2010, 8:44:20 AM9/9/10
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A reply from Mahadeswara ji:
" Looks like Desmos praecox only. Change in Blooming period may be due to change in climatic conditions."
J.M. Garg
Mar 15, 2014, 1:42:02 PM3/15/14
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please as Desmos chinensis or Desmos praecox pl.
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Saroj Kasaju
Apr 4, 2021, 6:23:52 AM4/4/21
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Desmos chinensis Lour. could be the closest match though
peduncle looks a bit longer .
Thank you.
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J.M. Garg
Apr 8, 2021, 7:33:22 AM4/8/21
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Thanks, Saroj ji, for the validation.
I also agree with you for Desmos chinensis as per Wikipedia, Useful tropical Plants, Toptropicals, POWO, Hong Kong herbarium, Gardino, FoPI
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navendu page
Apr 8, 2021, 7:34:53 AM4/8/21
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Looks like Cananga odorata
Navendu
J.M. Garg
Apr 8, 2021, 8:06:21 AM4/8/21
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Thanks, Navendu ji,
There was a long discussion at Michelia champaka -blooming in Chennai
I also go with you after seeing images at Cananga odorata
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J.M. Garg
Jun 12, 2021, 6:29:38 AM6/12/21
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it looks like Artabotrys harmandii- from Mohamed Shawqi ji
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From: JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 at 23:09
Subject: [efloraofindia:183974] Fwd: Michelia champaka -blooming in Chennai
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From: JM Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 at 23:09
Subject: [efloraofindia:183974] Fwd: Michelia champaka -blooming in Chennai
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Jun 12, 2021, 6:31:15 AM6/12/21
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Jun 12, 2021, 9:36:59 AM6/12/21
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Yes it's Garg Ji,
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 16:01, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Shawqi ji,It has been identified as Cananga odorata
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 15:58, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
it looks like Artabotrys harmandii- from Mohamed Shawqi ji
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 at 23:09
Subject: [efloraofindia:183974] Fwd: Michelia champaka -blooming in Chennai
To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>--Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please as Desmos chinensis or Desmos praecox pl.
On Monday, July 12, 2010 1:13:03 AM UTC+5:30, padirag wrote:This tree with fragrant flowers is blooming in Chennai now.Padmini Raghavan.
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Jun 13, 2021, 12:01:29 AM6/13/21
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It is Cananga odorata only. Common here .
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Yes it's Garg Ji,On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 16:01, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi, Shawqi ji,It has been identified as Cananga odorataOn Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 15:58, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:it looks like Artabotrys harmandii- from Mohamed Shawqi ji---------- Forwarded message ---------
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 at 23:09
Subject: [efloraofindia:183974] Fwd: Michelia champaka -blooming in Chennai
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>--Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please as Desmos chinensis or Desmos praecox pl.
On Monday, July 12, 2010 1:13:03 AM UTC+5:30, padirag wrote:This tree with fragrant flowers is blooming in Chennai now.Padmini Raghavan.
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