SK1187 09 JUNE 2018

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 9, 2018, 8:59:38 AM6/9/18
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Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India
Date : 12 May 2018
Elevation :  6900 ft.
Habit : Wild

Leaf only !


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 11, 2018, 12:30:44 AM6/11/18
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Thanks, Saroj ji 

J.M. Garg

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Jun 19, 2018, 6:37:33 AM6/19/18
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 23, 2020, 11:25:26 AM11/23/20
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Re-surfacing for ID !
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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Nov 25, 2020, 6:25:20 AM11/25/20
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I think Asteraceae. May be from from Cichorieae‎ with genus like Lactuca etc.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 25, 2020, 7:18:13 AM11/25/20
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Thank you Mr. Garg !
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 14, 2021, 11:12:43 AMJun 14
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Forwarding for ID
Group discussion at

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 14, 2021, 11:13:41 AMJun 14
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Forwarding for ID
Group discussion at

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surajitno...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2021, 10:14:25 AMJun 18
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If it is Asteraceae, it might be Notoseris khasiana (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian.

Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 18, 2021, 12:30:13 PMJun 18
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Thank you Surajit ji ! 
Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ??

Saroj Kasaju


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surajit koley

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Jun 18, 2021, 1:00:04 PMJun 18
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Actually, it is under the genus Prenanthes in Flora of British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need to be consulted - Lactuca, Notoseris,  Please check FoC http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, a similar sp. is N. triflora, ut with amplexicauled leaf - http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 18, 2021, 2:24:26 PMJun 18
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Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature!
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


surajit koley

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Jun 19, 2021, 1:33:39 AMJun 19
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As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft slender erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. But, KEW herbarium doesn't show cordate base - https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1.



It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may be some other asteraceae.


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surajit koley

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Jun 19, 2021, 1:35:47 AMJun 19
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Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry.


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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 19, 2021, 3:18:18 AMJun 19
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Looks according to the keys!
Thank you Surajit Ji !

Saroj Kasaju

surajit koley

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Jun 19, 2021, 8:30:48 AMJun 19
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Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its own room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from other sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified properly, it will be moved to a more furnished room!


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surajit koley

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Jun 19, 2021, 11:35:02 AMJun 19
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Thank you
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surajit koley

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Jun 19, 2021, 11:47:42 AMJun 19
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Thank you
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 25, 2021, 12:32:59 PMJun 25
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Thanks, Surajit ji.
Yes, May be as per GBIF- specimen and others like one and two



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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 19, 2021, 2:19:56 AMJul 19
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Dear Surajit Ji,

I have found  the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from 2200-2700m. 
Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you please find out the 
flowering phenology for this sp. ? 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 19, 2021, 2:20:10 AMJul 19
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 19, 2021, 2:20:45 AMJul 19
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surajit koley

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Jul 19, 2021, 11:11:04 AMJul 19
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Sir, in all literature, new or old, Lactuca decipiens C.B.Clarke (Melanoseris decipiens (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as an erect herb.

According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, stem 2-4 feet.

Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of the Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per one other document the flowering season is July to November, in Kashmir, a time that covers almost all Lactuca / Melanoseris spp.

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Surajit Koley

J.M. Garg

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:27:36 AMJul 28
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Thanks, Surajit ji and Saroj ji,
Pl. also examine the possibility of Lactuca brunoniana (DC.) Wall. ex C.B.Clarke as per images and details herein and as per GBIF specimens- one, two and three.
However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 28, 2021, 9:46:13 AMJul 28
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I want clarify here that this sp. is scandent or rather hanging from wall type 
whereas L. bruniniana is a erect shrub !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 31, 2021, 12:40:03 PMJul 31
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Senecio scandens var. incisus Franch. ??
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surajit koley

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Aug 1, 2021, 1:14:07 AMAug 1
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I tend to agree with you, Saroj ji, and perhaps you have solved another thread along with this one. But, presently, I cannot remember which one ... let me see ... I'll revert back

Thank you
Regards

Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 1, 2021, 1:15:37 AMAug 1
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OK Surajit JI !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

surajit koley

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Aug 1, 2021, 1:57:08 AMAug 1
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I attach again the relevant entry of FBI and illustrations referred therein. One illustration with auricle at leaf base and the other without.

Following the KEY in FoC, I think your id is correct.

Thank you
Regards

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Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 1, 2021, 2:38:40 AMAug 1
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Thank you Surajit Ji !

Saroj Kasaju


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