ID KANNUR 0501

[Girish Kumar]

Please identify this riparian shrub from Kannur district of Kerala collected on 21st May 2018.

GIRISH KUMAR .E

ASSISTANT PROFESSOR

P G DEPARTMENT OF BOTANY

MAHATMA GANDHI GOVT. ARTS COLLEGE

MAHE, U.T OF PUDUCHERRY

                  &

NSS PROGRAMME OFFICER

MGGAC, MAHE

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NSS REGIONAL CO-ORDINATOR

MAHE NSS CELL

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Ph: 09447833571

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

I identified this same image posted in Facebook as a Cleistanthus (Phyllanthaceae) and likely to be C. patulus.

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

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From: Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:295689] ID KANNUR 0501
To: Tapas Chakrabarty <tcha...@gmail.com>

thank yopu sir.

Cleistanthus patulus leaves is orbicular- ovate and Fruit Slightly lobed;

I think Glochidion or other Euphorbiaceae family member.

Thank you.

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Unfortunately the image is of low resolution and we can not observe the indumentum, if any.  However, if this is Phyllanthaceae then I can think of no genus other than Cleistanthus with such infructescence pattern and the typical fruits but the leave are broad and lacking typical cauda or acumen characteristic of the genus.  However, this could be C. pallidus as well, a Sri Lankan endemic.   If further high resolution images are uploaded and flowering specimens can be traced out then further observations can be made.

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:46 PM Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote:

thank yopu sir.

Cleistanthus patulus leaves is orbicular- ovate and Fruit Slightly lobed;

I think Glochidion or other Euphorbiaceae family member.

Thank you.

On 24 May 2018 at 19:42, Tapas Chakrabarty <tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tapas ji. 

[lalithamba]

yes I agree with Tpos ji, it is not glochidion; the leaf is not clear, the leaf is not ovate orbicular in Cleistanthus patulus, orbicular in Cleistanthus collinus

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140231536@N03/25997160106/in/album-72157666387824475/

A.Lalithamba

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Thank you Lalithamba ji,

Unfortunately Girish ji never writes back!

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I identified this same image posted in Facebook as a Cleistanthus (Phyllanthaceae) and likely to be C. patulus. - from Tapas ji

Cleistanthus patulus leaves is orbicular- ovate and Fruit Slightly lobed; I think Glochidion or other Euphorbiaceae family member. Thank you.

Paradesi Anjaneyulu

Unfortunately the image is of low resolution and we can not observe the indumentum, if any.  However, if this is Phyllanthaceae then I can think of no genus other than Cleistanthus with such infructescence pattern and the typical fruits but the leave are broad and lacking typical cauda or acumen characteristic of the genus.  However, this could be C. pallidus as well, a Sri Lankan endemic.   If further high resolution images are uploaded and flowering specimens can be traced out then further observations can be made. - from Tapas ji

yes I agree with Tapas ji, it is not glochidion; the leaf is not clear, the leaf is not ovate orbicular in Cleistanthus patulus, orbicular in Cleistanthus collinus https://www.flickr.com/photos/140231536@N03/25997160106/in/album-72157666387824475/ A.Lalithamba

Thank you Lalithamba ji, Unfortunately Girish ji never writes back!- from Tapas ji

I could not find a match with any of the existing species available in efi site at  Cleistanthus

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From: Girish Kumar <giri...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue 12 Jun, 2018, 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:295688] ID KANNUR 0501
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Hi

Sorry.....l will collect the specimen once more and check the details and will inform you in time.. extremely sorry..

Girish Kumar E
Assistant professor
P G Department of Botany
Mahatma Gandhi Government Arts College, Mahe
U T of Puducherry- 673311
                    &
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NSS, Mahe
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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ramachandran ji 

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Date: Tue 12 Jun, 2018, 4:04 PM
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To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Sir,

It looks like Glochidion sp.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Giby ji. 

On Tue 12 Jun, 2018, 11:57 PM Giby Kuriakose, <giby.ku...@shcollege.ac.in> wrote:

I think it is Cleistanthus malabaricus or C. travancorensis.

Flowers are required. Also, was it a large tree with thick vegetation with pale grey or whitish bark? 

Please mention the altitude as well. These two species are rare.

 

Regards,

Giby 

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:52 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
Assistant Professor and Research Guide
PG and Research Department of Botany
Sacred Heart College 
Thevara
Kochi- 682 013
Kerala, India
Phone - +914844044436 (office) +919947109987 (Mobile)

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 June 2018 at 13:34
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To: jmgarg1 <jmg...@gmail.com>

thank you

Thanks, Giby ji. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Giby ji 

On Tue 12 Jun, 2018, 11:58 PM Giby Kuriakose, <giby.ku...@shcollege.ac.in> wrote:

Most probably the later.

Regards

 

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:57 PM, Giby Kuriakose <giby.ku...@shcollege.ac.in> wrote:

I think it is Cleistanthus malabaricus or C. travancorensis.

Flowers are required. Also, was it a large tree with thick vegetation with pale grey or whitish bark? 

Please mention the altitude as well. These two species are rare.

 

Regards,

Giby 

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:52 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
Assistant Professor and Research Guide
PG and Research Department of Botany
Sacred Heart College 
Thevara
Kochi- 682 013
Kerala, India
Phone - +914844044436 (office) +919947109987 (Mobile)

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Girish ji 

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From: Girish Kumar <giri...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed 13 Jun, 2018, 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:295688] ID KANNUR 0501
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Hi experts

 I attach here the photos of the same plant which can be zoomed. This will solve our identification process, I think. The plant is not a tree but a large shrub of about 2 metre with morphological similarity with Mallotus in habit. It is riparian in nature and the altitude of the location is about 30 feet

GIRISH KUMAR .E

ASSISTANT PROFESSOR

P G DEPARTMENT OF BOTANY

MAHATMA GANDHI GOVT. ARTS COLLEGE

MAHE, U.T OF PUDUCHERRY

                  &

NSS PROGRAMME OFFICER

MGGAC, MAHE

                    &

NSS REGIONAL CO-ORDINATOR

MAHE NSS CELL

giri...@gmail.com

Ph: 09447833571

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Giby ji. 

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

This may be a new species of Cleistanthus (not Glochidion). 

Thanks, Giby ji. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tapas ji 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  New species of Cleistanthus ?- Kannur district of Kerala 

Group discussion at

  ID KANNUR 0501 (google.com)  

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  New species of Cleistanthus ?- Kannur district of Kerala 

Group discussion at

  ID KANNUR 0501 (google.com)  

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Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 6:54:07 PM UTC+5:30
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[Girish Kumar]

This has been published as a new variety jaleelianus of Cleistanthus travancorensis.in Rheedea 

• June 2020
• Rheedea 30(2):278-281

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Girish ji.

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