Climber for ID

[M Sawmliana]

Location : Lengpui, Mizoram. Altitude : ca. 400 m. Date : 21-06-2014. Habit : climber. Habitat : wild

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji,

Do you have close of the flowers etc. ?

On 21 June 2014 19:02, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Location : Lengpui, Mizoram. Altitude : ca. 400 m. Date : 21-06-2014. Habit : climber. Habitat : wild

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From: M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>
Date: 21 June 2014 20:02
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191622] Climber for ID
To: "J. M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

No sir. I think i can have after 2-5 days

[J.M. Garg]

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From: M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>
Date: 23 June 2014 19:19
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191622] Climber for ID
To: "J. M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Same climber for ID(Asclepiadaceae) Tylophora sp. ??

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

No sir. I think i can have after 2-5 days

On 21-Jun-2014 7:41 pm, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[surajitkoley]

Good morning

Beautiful flowers, I could not help but enhancing one! And this looks like - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Hairy%20Ipecac.html

Thank you

Regards

On Tuesday, 24 June 2014 09:28:55 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:

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Date: 23 June 2014 19:19
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191622] Climber for ID
To: "J. M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Same climber for ID(Asclepiadaceae) Tylophora sp. ??

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

No sir. I think i can have after 2-5 days

On 21-Jun-2014 7:41 pm, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Sawmliana ji,

Do you have close of the flowers etc. ?

On 21 June 2014 19:02, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Location : Lengpui, Mizoram. Altitude : ca. 400 m. Date : 21-06-2014. Habit : climber. Habitat : wild

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[lalithamba]

It looks like Cosmostigma racemosum (Roxb.)Wt.

A.Lalithamba

On Tuesday, 24 June 2014 09:28:55 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:

[Prabhu kumar Km]

It is an Asclepiad but not Cosmostigma racemosum, Any Bidaria sp.?

Prabhu Kumar K M
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[J.M. Garg]

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Date: 25 June 2014 14:09
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191882] Climber for ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Pic. of same climber

[lalithamba]

It looks like Brachylepis nervosa W&A, 

http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=130376

thank you with regards

A.Lalithamba

[J.M. Garg]

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Date: 26 June 2014 12:22
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Cc: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com>

No. Decalepis nervosa is extremely different.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Beautiful flowers, I could not help but enhancing one! And this looks like - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Hairy%20Ipecac.html Thank you Regards

Surajit

It looks like Cosmostigma racemosum (Roxb.)Wt. A.Lalithamba

It is an Asclepiad but not Cosmostigma racemosum, Any Bidaria sp.?  Prabhu Kumar K M

Pic. of same climber- from Sawmliana ji.

It looks like Brachylepis nervosa W&A,  http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=130376 thank you with regards A.Lalithamba

No. Decalepis nervosa is extremely different. -- Prabhu Kumar K M

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Date: 23 June 2014 19:19
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191622] Climber for ID
To: "J. M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Same climber for ID(Asclepiadaceae) Tylophora sp. ??

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

No sir. I think i can have after 2-5 days

On 21-Jun-2014 7:41 pm, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

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Date: 2 July 2014 20:24
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191622] Climber for ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

leaves of same climber

[J.M. Garg]

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Date: 3 July 2014 16:32
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Gymnema sylvestre ??

On 25-Jun-2014 2:09 pm, "M Sawmliana" <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Pic. of same climber

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:36 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[J.M. Garg]

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Date: 3 July 2014 19:54
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it is not Gymnema sylvestre!!
A.Lalithamba

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Date: 4 July 2014 08:32
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:191882] Climber for ID
To: "J. M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Thanks sir Lalithamba Avadhanam for informaton

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Idassistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Beautiful flowers, I could not help but enhancing one! And this looks like - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Hairy%20Ipecac.html Thank you Regards Surajit

It looks like Cosmostigma racemosum (Roxb.)Wt. A.Lalithamba

It is an Asclepiad but not Cosmostigma racemosum, Any Bidaria sp.? Prabhu Kumar K M

Pic. of same climber- from Sawmliana ji.

It looks like Brachylepis nervosa W&A, http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=130376 thank you with regards A.Lalithamba

No. Decalepis nervosa is extremely different. -- Prabhu Kumar K M

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[surajit koley]

I may be wrong but I still think of all ID proposed in this thread this one is closer to T. ovata, Description can be found at FoC (leaf base rounded obtuse or cordate in T. hirsuta Wight, FBI.IV.43). Slender, acuminate poniard shaped follicles is another character.

Thank you

Regards

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Tylophora species ?- Lengpui, Mizoram

Group discussion at

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[surajit koley]

Sir, I think Tylophora ovata (Lindl.) Hook. ex Steud is a fairly probable id.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Surajit ji.

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

May I request you to pl. post high resolution images to check the details.

What are the species reported in your area?

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Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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[J.M. Garg]

  Thanks, Sawmliana ji  

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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 14:47
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:382822] Fwd: Climber for ID
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Only Tylophora longifolia was recorded in Mizoram

On Thu, 22 Apr, 2021, 11:42 am J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[surajit koley]

If the follicles (in this thread) @ https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/NzJJEegxLfE/m/FL2XumwYGkQJ look like the illustrations -

@ http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=85949&flora_id=2

and

@ http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=85951&flora_id=2 I still think there is a fair chance, even if it is not listed in Mizoram flora.

As for distribution one can view KEW map - http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:102807-1

Still, I can be wrong altogether.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Surajit ji.

Leaves here look glabrous unlike those in Tylophora ovata

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[surajit koley]

" Lianas to 5 m, rusty hispid, villous, or pubescent except for adaxial leaf surface and sometimes follicles. ..... "

Those are the exact words, copied from Flora of China.

Also, attached here Flora of British India entry.

and, also the picture shows hair ! - https://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/449994738eb8c/Thei-kelki-suak-chi-khat.jpg?part=0.1&view=1&vt=ANaJVrGDh8DFZNju2Grw7V5qzZptcpYXdF3n4hD3h14XiKzfkxI3hgPfsg8TZyyRqk3xNqifI06hWZ9oV2GYhaJzO9YGsPRgxi3zRaKR2mrxZ-NwoYsXOlU

And, also, here is the protologue - https://archive.org/details/mobot31753002640826/page/267/mode/1up?view=theater

But, that doesn.t conclude the id, I merely suggested the possibility!

Thank you.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley

[Saroj Kasaju]

Vincetoxicum hirsutum (Decne.) Kuntze ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

I agree with you. After going through GBIF (from India) images and specimens, I find that there is a lot of variation in the leaves' pubescence and flowers.

I think matches as per GBIF specimen and FOI images.

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[surajit koley]

Thank you, Sir, for the info.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley