Rosaceae plant for id, Upper Dzongu, Sikkim, April-15

[Paresh Churi]

Hello everyone,

Please identify the Rosaceae plant which was found on slopes, plant height was appx 3 fts., elevation appx 2800 asl.

Thanks in advance!

Paresh Churi.

[surajit koley]

Well, I do not know, very curious to know, searched a found something similar - https://www.google.co.in/search?q=pygeum+fruit&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIyu2ypcaNyAIVx0qOCh0RBQco#tbm=isch&q=rubus+sumatranus.

But it is not R. sumatranus, for the species has 5-7 leaflets (ref. FoC)

Thank you

Regards

(simply) surajit koley

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[Anurag N. Sharma]

Just now, this was identified as Rubus rosifolius by Gurcharan sir on Facebook.

While I was looking for the species earlier (and ultimately gave up due to lack of further clues!), I had disregarded this one because the initial description in FOC said 5-7 leaflets.

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[Ushadi Micromini]

ha ha

i am amused because i never really expected to see it in india

if this is really a rose than its what we call Cherokee rose

a n import from china , now naturalized in parts of USA and even has become weedy, and of all things its even a state flower in one of the southern states

MoBot used to have a grand display, and in fall these weird prickly pear lik hip, never to be forgotten

they still show picture of the profuse white flowered rambling rose, enjoy it at this url:

on the second thought if its in  in china, then its likely to be in the himalayas and all probability in Sikkim too. chinese herbal medicine uses it for spleen disorders.

googling for cherokee rose found a binomial: Rosa laevigata Michx. http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=rola

usha di

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Paresh Churi <pares...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Ushadi Micromini]

i forgot to ask

do you have a few more pictures of the habit, flower bud and  a full set of leaflets with the possible stipules and the prickles on the flower stem?

thanks

usha di

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[surajit koley]

Didi, you may be correct on roses but not on the species laevigata if efloras (FoC, FoP) descriptions are correct. Thanks Anurag Ji for the update, I am not a member of facebook-eflora.

Thank you

Regards

(simply) surajit koley

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[surajit koley]

Plants with glandular hairs (can have 9 leaflets) = sumatranus (R. rosifolius Smith subsp. sumatranus (Miquel) Focke)

Plants without glandular hairs, but with glands, sometimes with sparse short glandular hairs on flowering branchlets or pedicels = rosifolius

for more on the two taxa please visit - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=304119#KEY-1-22

see also http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=891547

Thank you

Regards

(simply) surajit koley

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[J.M. Garg]

So I am finally taking it as R. sumatranus.

Is it OK ?

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[surajit koley]

Sir,

Number of leaflets is not at all a strong point to determine the species.

Paresh Ji is expected to break his silence and give his view based on his observation and/or more photographs (if there is any) of this species. The attached photographs in the initiating posts are not sufficient to species level identification.

Thank you

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(simply) surajit koley

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Rubus sumatranus ? 

Group discussion at

  Rosaceae plant for id, Upper Dzongu, Sikkim, April-15 (google.com)  

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Rubus sumatranus ? 

Group discussion at

  Rosaceae plant for id, Upper Dzongu, Sikkim, April-15 (google.com)  

[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess this should be Rubus rosifolius Sm. according to the keys from Flora of Nepal ( Encl).

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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