SK 2818 03 November 2020

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Kathmandu Valley

Date:  October 2020 

Elevation: 2800m.

Habitat  : Wild

ID for this Elatostema sp. please !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I tried to check species in GBIF as per keys in Flora of Bhutan at Elatostema and also species which are listed in Checklist of Nepal, but could not find a match as per details below:

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4100801

https://www.gbif.org/species/4099704 (Elatostema grandidentatum W.T.Wang)

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=NP&country=IN&taxon_key=7300690 (E. sessile)

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=BT&country=IN&taxon_key=4100033 (E. sikkimense)

https://www.gbif.org/species/4099637 (Elatostema subincisum Wedd.)

https://www.gbif.org/species/7300859 (Elatostema parvum Blume ex Miq.)

https://www.gbif.org/species/5669749 (Procris crenata C.B.Rob.)

Is this some other related genus?

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Is it Lecanthus peduncularis ?

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J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

It could be . I had suggested for the possibility of Lecanthus petelotii  or its subsp.,

however not listed in Nepal !

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Is it Lecanthus peduncularis ?  - from me

It could be. I had suggested for the possibility of Lecanthus petelotii  or its subsp.,

however not listed in Nepal ! Thank you Mr. Garg ! Saroj Kasaju

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Appears so as per FoP illustration Flora of China FoC illustration

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J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Tabish,

Please have a look at : https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/MMtEOXHSE6Y/m/VsCjiQegAAAJ 

and suggest.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tabish]

This looks like Lecanthus obtusus to me.

   Tabish

[Saroj Kasaju]

How can we establish? This would be a new sp. for Nepal.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Checklist of Nepal already gives Lecanthus obtusus (Royle) Hand.-Mazz. as a syn. of Lecanthus peduncularis (Royle) Wedd.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes, that is there but it has not been updated and most of the databases like POWO, GBIF, CoL, IPNI and WP

have mentioned this  as different sp. Even the book by KK shrestha et all have not synonymized this sp. 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

The plant sp. is hardly 10-15 cm. in height, as such in my opinion 

this may not be Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.

Please have a look at the links and opine.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=117805

https://www.gbif.org/species/7300467

https://efloraofindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Lecanthus-obtusus.jpg

Peduncle length has a big difference compared to Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Lecanthus obtusus (Royle) Hand.-Mazz. and Lecanthus peduncularis (Royle) Wedd. both are different and accepted.

Pl. see 
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/lecanthus-obtusus/
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/lecanthus-peduncularis/

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J.M.Garg, 
https://efloraofindia.com/

[Saroj Kasaju]

So is this L. peduncularis?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

https://efloraofindia.com/efi/lecanthus-obtusus/

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Mr. Garg.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju