Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate Heads : 10072013MR04 wild herb from Pune for ID-MR04

[Bhagyashri]

Dear all,

05/07/2012 Pune

requesting identification of this weak wild herb with soft spiny leaves. 

one unopened bud was seen

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Regards

Bhagyashri 

[Bhagyashri]

Dear all,

11/07/2013

I found a half closed flower on the same plant attaching pixs of the same

Regards

Bhagyashri

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Regards

Bhagyashri 

[Bhagyashri]

Sorry pixs of leaves were attached again .Attaching pixs of flowers 

Regards

Bhagyashri

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Bhagyashri <iti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

11/07/2013

I found a half closed flower on the same plant attaching pixs of the same

Regards

Bhagyashri

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Bhagyashri <iti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

05/07/2012 Pune

requesting identification of this weak wild herb with soft spiny leaves. 

one unopened bud was seen

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Regards

Bhagyashri 

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Regards

Bhagyashri 

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Regards

Bhagyashri 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Attaching pixs of flowers  Regards Bhagyashri

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[Bhagyashri]

Garg ji,

Thank you for follow up of this post for Id assistance. Attaching pixs of flower and ?fruit of the plant. 

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Bhagyashri

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

05/07/2012 Pune requesting identification of this weak wild herb with soft spiny leaves.  one unopened bud was seen

Regards Bhagyashri  ---------------------------------------------

[Bhagyashri]

Dear all,

Resurfacing this post again for Id assistance please

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Bhagyashri

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Date: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Subject: Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate Heads : 10072013MR04 wild herb from Pune for ID-MR04
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Bhagyashri 

[Bhagyashri]

Dear all,

can this plant be Annual Sow-thistle Sonchus oleraceus

ref http://www.naturemanitoba.ca/sites/default/files/AnnualSowThistle.pdf

the description of the flower head beginning to open; a wide pink stripe colors the back of each ligule matches the description of the flower head in my post. attching the pic of half opened flower head again for ref 

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Bhagyashri

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[J.M. Garg]

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Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Sonchus oleraceus

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[surajit koley]

No efI post helps! I can only say that it can be S. oleraceus L. if we agree 1) phyllaries have more or less obtuse apices, 2) ligules of S. oleraceus can be hairy outside.

Thank you and regards

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

I imagine if this can be of help.

1. Perennial herb from long rhizomes; fruit ± compressed, 3–4-angled, 2-ribbed between angles ..... S. arvensis

2. Peduncles and phyllaries stalked-glandular ..... [subsp. arvensis]]

2' Peduncles and phyllaries generally sessile-glandular, rarely tomentose ..... subsp. uliginosus

1' Annual from taproots; fruit weakly to strongly flattened

3. Stem slender; leaves deeply lobed, lobes toothed and often with smaller 2° lobes; fruit only slightly flattened, transversely roughened; ligule > corolla tube; uncommon ..... S. tenerrimus

3' Stem stout; leaves toothed or with wide lobes; fruit flat, with thin edges, smooth or cross-roughened; ligule <= corolla tube; widespread and common

4. Proximal (clasping) lobes of leaves rounded, strongly curved to coiled; fruit 3-ribbed per side, otherwise smooth; ligule < corolla tube ..... S. asper subsp. asper

4' Proximal (clasping) lobes of leaves acute; fruit 2–4-ribbed and cross-wrinkled; ligule ± = corolla tube ..... S. oleraceus

Regards

Pankaj

[D.S Rawat]

Yes it is closest to S. oleraceous but leaves look totally different.

DSRawat Pantnagar

[Bhagyashri]

Many thanks Surajit ji, Pankaj ji and Rawat ji for the help to Id this plant.

Rawat ji yes the leaves look very different . The leaves were very thin and soft . the spines also were soft

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[Gurcharan Singh]

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[Gurcharan Singh]

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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Sonchus brachyotus DC.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju