2015april_sk07/07 : Citrus medica L.? one more time

surajit koley

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Apr 3, 2015, 12:02:53 PM4/3/15

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I photographed it this morning. A 10 ft shrub, didn't find flower, fruits are about 2 inches long. I think this is same as in my previous post.

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 7, 2015, 6:14:29 AM4/7/15

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Apr 11, 2015, 2:53:57 AM4/11/15

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I photographed it this morning. A 10 ft shrub, didn't find flower, fruits are about 2 inches long. I think this is same as in my previous post.

Thank you

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Pudji Widodo

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Apr 13, 2015, 9:41:42 AM4/13/15

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To me this is a cultivar of Citrus aurantiifolia

Pudji Widodo

surajit koley

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Apr 13, 2015, 10:05:35 AM4/13/15

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Pudji Ji,

Is Citrus aurantiifolia same as Citrus x aurantiifolia?

Is Citrus aurantiifolia same as C. aurantifolia?

Is Citrus aurantiifolia synonymous with C. medica var. acida?

Thank you very much.

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Pudji Widodo

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Apr 13, 2015, 11:30:31 AM4/13/15

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If I am not mistaken, yes it is.

PW

surajit koley

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Apr 13, 2015, 12:32:16 PM4/13/15

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Thank you very much again, Pudji Ji.

The problem is Flora of Pakistan treats C. medica var. acida and C. aurantifolia two different taxa.

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Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 13, 2015, 12:40:20 PM4/13/15

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eta gondhoraj lebu na?

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surajit koley

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Apr 13, 2015, 12:55:02 PM4/13/15

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Didi,

Lebu dekhe ami chinte parina konta gandhoraj ar kontai ba kagji, loke thik mato bolte pareo na!

Roxburgh Saheb Citrus acida R. er katokguli variety r katha likhechen -

1. pati leboo

2. kagji leboo

3. gora leboo

4. china-gora leboo

5. camaral leboo

6. Rungpore lime

7. taba neboo

8. Arabian lime

9. meetha lemoo

Roxburgh Saheb er C. medica Willd. holo "lemoo or nemoo"!

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surajit

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 13, 2015, 1:21:56 PM4/13/15

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Surajit:
roxburgh ki bolechhe jante chai na

onake jara help korto tara hoyto janto na ba sada lokera old indian language pronounciation bhalo kore shunte parto na.. onek bhul bhal transcripiton korechhe... sanskrit books gulo dekhleyi boja jayi..

amamder rangpur lime and gondhoraj lebu niye koyek jon modern sada lokera usa te niye giye nijer name patent koriye niyechhhe jemon... MEYERS lemon

India ke crdit o dayi na, but everybody knows lebu of all kinds arose in india....

google kore dekho

amra meyers lemon khub dam diye kintum ... gondharaj lebu khabo bole

bochhore ekad baar...

ar ote bij neyi je churi korte parbe...

amader lebu amaderi-i jante hobe, roxburgh er opore depend korle hobe na..

BSI hoyto list baniye che notun kore

we need to ask

May be tapasda janen

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surajit koley

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Apr 13, 2015, 1:28:14 PM4/13/15

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Yes, Didi, gandhoraj ar Rangpur er byapare Times ar Telegraph e article royeche.

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surajit

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 13, 2015, 1:41:17 PM4/13/15

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links?

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surajit koley

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Apr 13, 2015, 2:35:27 PM4/13/15

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Didi,

See below the links-

Rangpur lime is Ctrus limonia Osbeck as per http://www.niir.org/books/book/handbook-on-citrus-fruits-cultivation-oil-extraction/isbn-9788178331256/zb,,16e,a,22,0,3e8/index.html

Thank you

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surajit

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 14, 2015, 12:04:55 AM4/14/15

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Thanks for the links

USA r ekti botanical collection e eyi peyechhilum... onek bochhor age..

Inline image 1

label says citru X limonia
Rangpur lime

Lebur khub ekti chhobi tuli ni

ran out of film

but whatever is showing

these donot look anything like the gondhoraj lebu

I remember running my fingers on the yellow skin and scent inhaling... was nice but not gondhoraj scent

the gardener working "really keeping an eye on " visitors said the lebus had seeds and was quite sour to taste... he was not impressed with any nostalgia imposing scent...

please read these modern papers, right now I have to run but I promise I will also read it again.. i had discovered this edu site a few years ago, very thorough professors ...

http://websites.lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/Vol1/Chapter4.html#calssification

their 3 is also quite informative

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surajit koley

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Apr 14, 2015, 2:10:46 PM4/14/15

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Thank you Didi, I took a quick glance this afternoon, very informative, but not helpful to species level ID, I think.

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surajit

surajit koley

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Apr 14, 2015, 2:25:56 PM4/14/15

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I agree with Pudji Ji, this is likely to be C. aurantiifolia or hybrid.

Thank you

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surajit

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 14, 2015, 6:53:10 PM4/14/15

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that was the idea, SURAJIT

its one of the myriad hybrids

did it not strike you that out of the lemon seeds or saplings carried westward by the arab caravans and sold to italians et at ( venice was a trading post for them) ... so many cultivars and then hybrids developed in a span of only a couple of centuries...??

AND EVERYBODY AT EFLORAINDIA THAT GET THIS EMAIL:

think of the big picture and why was lemon a center of so..oo..o much activity, in the western world in several continents including australia, starting in the late 15th century to 17th century especially ... and in california and florida in 19th and 20th century...these chapters show us that activity...???

but why???

I know it, do you?

I want to hear all the stories and ideas

thanks

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surajit koley

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Apr 14, 2015, 10:53:45 PM4/14/15

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Didi,

Except for commercial exploitation I fail to think of any other cause. The Citrus is/was mostly Asian origin, rather SE Asia.

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Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 16, 2015, 4:31:02 AM4/16/15

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surajit

the chapter 3 ui said was more informative

that's where the keys are for the whole clan and kaboodle

citur is halfway down the page/chapter

you'll have more than what you want

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Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 16, 2015, 9:44:44 AM4/16/15

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sorry too many typos and forgot to include the link to chapter 3...

so here's corrections and the link...

surajit

the chapter 3 i said was more informative

that's where the keys are for the whole clan and kaboodle

citrus is halfway down the page/chapter

you'll have more than what you want

chapter title is :

The Botany of Citrus and Its Wild Relatives
BY WALTER T. SWINGLE
Revised by Phillip C. Reece CHAPTER 3

its from UC Riverside

they do a good job

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surajit koley

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Apr 16, 2015, 12:59:45 PM4/16/15

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Thank you very much Didi for the link and details. This shrub cannot be true Citrus aurantifolia for it has leaves as large as 10 to 15 cm., never small like our PATILEBU, petioles are not winged, even faintly. At best it can be a hybrid.

Thank you

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surajit

J.M. Garg

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Oct 13, 2021, 2:58:16 AM10/13/21

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Pl. also consider Citrus longilimon, as per images and details herein.

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I photographed it this morning. A 10 ft shrub, didn't find flower, fruits are about 2 inches long. I think this is same as in my previous post.

Thank you

Regards

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 13, 2021, 3:02:19 AM10/13/21

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I guess you are right Mr. Garg ! https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraofindia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F10%2FP1150217.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraofindia.com%2F2011%2F02%2F15%2Fcitrus-longilimon%2F&tbnid=zmikK9k5FfSnjM&vet=12ahUKEwi0vYKl6MbzAhW1n0sFHRIaAHgQMygHegQIARAz..i&docid=DniZ9Y3eN9cshM&w=800&h=600&q=citrus%20longilimon&hl=en&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwi0vYKl6MbzAhW1n0sFHRIaAHgQMygHegQIARAz

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surajit koley

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Oct 15, 2021, 9:10:55 AM10/15/21

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Very confusing, Sir, I would rather prefer Citrus sp. only.

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surajit

J.M. Garg

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Oct 21, 2021, 6:15:08 AM10/21/21

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Same as at Rutaceae week: Citrus sp. from Hooghly

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surajit koley

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Oct 21, 2021, 8:23:28 AM10/21/21

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Yes, Sir, I fully agree.

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