VoF Week :: DV :: 03 AUG 12 - 1239 :: intriguing flower along Hemakund - Ghangaria trail

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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 24, 2012, 1:35:33 PM8/24/12
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Brahmakamal near Hemakund
3 AUG 12
Hemakund - Ghangaria trail ... about 13500 ft
Dear friends, ID please.
Habitat: sloping meadow
Habit: small herb, about 30 cm high; flower about 5 - 7 mm across (not sure)
... this was the only plant. Not sure whether the flower has already lost its prime.

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Regards.
Dinesh

Tabish

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Aug 24, 2012, 3:34:00 PM8/24/12
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Looks like the petals have fallen off. The red one must be the lobed stigma. No idea about identity.
  - Tabish

Satish Phadke

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Aug 25, 2012, 10:42:51 AM8/25/12
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There are two flowers. One partially open and one full open. As Tabish ji has suggested the petals have fallen or there are only tepals.
Dr Satish Phadke


On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks like the petals have fallen off. The red one must be the lobed stigma. No idea about identity.

  - Tabish

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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 25, 2012, 2:16:00 PM8/25/12
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Many thanks Tabish and Satish ji.
Yes, now I see.
Regards.
Dinesh


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Satish Phadke

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Sep 19, 2012, 7:14:34 AM9/19/12
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Forwarding again for any inputs.
Dr Satish Phadke

Gurcharan Singh

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Feb 4, 2021, 7:46:56 AM2/4/21
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Forwarded for ID
Distributed as  Unidentified 5 
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Gurcharan Singh

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Feb 4, 2021, 7:48:06 AM2/4/21
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Forwarded for ID
Distributed as  Unidentified 5 
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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 16, 2025, 1:05:46 AM11/16/25
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Many thanks Saroj ji !!!
I glanced through some sites on the internet; the habitat of Juncus gerardii is coastal wetlands, marsh and pastures.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 9:25 AM Saroj Kumar Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Juncus gerardi Loisel., a new sps. for India ??

Thank you
Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 16, 2025, 3:27:15 AM11/16/25
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If the D is correct, you should go for a publication.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Tabish

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Nov 16, 2025, 1:07:43 PM11/16/25
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This could be Juncus compressus which is found in Western Himalaya. See the attached drawing. The structure of the flower agrees - there are only tepals, as Satish Phadke had suggested. Anthers are longer than the filaments, and there are 3 reddish stigmas.
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Tabish

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Nov 16, 2025, 1:10:35 PM11/16/25
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Also Juncus compressus is often confused with Juncus gerardi.
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Tabish

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Nov 16, 2025, 1:16:41 PM11/16/25
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Compare with the image here:
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:37:03 PM11/16/25
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At least it got ID after 13 years . Thanks to all.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 18, 2025, 1:02:34 AM11/18/25
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Thanks very much Saroj ji for resurfacing the post and many thanks to Tabish for suggesting the ID.
Regards.
Dinesh

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 18, 2025, 1:03:42 AM11/18/25
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Happy that it got the correct ID.
 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Tabish

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Nov 18, 2025, 10:53:37 AM11/18/25
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After Dinesh put this one on iNaturalist,  Jacques@iNat suggested that it agrees better with  Juncus duthiei which is endemic to the Himalayas. The part where Dinesh's flower did not agree well with Juncus compressus was that the tepals are supposed to be blunt in Juncus compressus whereas they are pointed in Dinesh's flowers. Since the species is very variable, I assumed it as variation. In Juncus duthiei  the tepals are reddish-brown to blackish, sometimes with paler tips and greenish midribs, narrowly lanceshaped, the inner narrower than the outer and with narrow membranous margins, all gradually tapered to pointed tip. This is an excellent agreement with Dinesh's flowers.
 Tabish
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 18, 2025, 11:11:42 AM11/18/25
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Thank you Tabish.

Saroj Kasaju

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 18, 2025, 11:33:30 AM11/18/25
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Thanks very much Tabish. Long pending ID is validated and resolved.
Many thanks Saroj ji for your resurfacing the post and proposing ID.
Regards.
Dinesh

Tabish

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Nov 18, 2025, 11:52:53 AM11/18/25
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Yes, Saroj's suggestion Juncus gerardi made me explore closely related species of the Himalayas. The plant is also a wonderful find! Is this the longest pending identification to get resolved in eFI?
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