ID of tree called Karap

[jui pethe]

date: 6.11.11

Location: Vihigaon Near Kasara Dist Thane Maharashtra

Locally called Karap

It is a tree almost 30-40 feet tall

bark: dark cracked 

Leaves at the ends of the branches

Leaves simple opposite 5-10 cm by 3-4 cm

Ovate petioles only 0.5 cm

younger leaves seen reddish and later light green.  

fruits are small and black when ripe edible and consumed by humans 

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Jui Pethe

Senior Research Fellow,

NAIP-ICAR Project,

Yashwantrao Chavan Maharashtra Open University

Nashik

[Satish Phadke]

Jui ji do you have any photographs? Please attach them if possible.

--
Dr Satish Phadke

[Tanay Bose]

I think you missed the attachments Juhi Ji

Tanay

--

Tanay Bose

Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)

           604-822-2019 (Lab)

           604-822-6089  (Fax)

ta...@interchange.ubc.ca

Webpages: 

http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html

http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

[Dinesh Valke]

... based on common name karap OR karpa, there is at least one species, which you may check for: Lepisanthes tetraphylla
Regards.
Dinesh

[jui]

Sir,
I have referred to the name Lepisanthes tetraphylla before. but it has
2 Major differences
1. the leaves of Lepisanthes tetraphylla are compound
2. the leaves of Lepisanthes tetraphylla are alternately arranged.

warm regards,

Jui

On Nov 8, 12:33 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... based on common name *karap* OR *karpa*, there is at least one species,
> which you may check for: *Lepisanthes tetraphylla*

> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Tanay Bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think you missed the attachments Juhi Ji
> > Tanay
>

> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:49 PM, jui pethe <juipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> date: 6.11.11
> >> Location: Vihigaon Near Kasara Dist Thane Maharashtra
> >> Locally called Karap
> >> It is a tree almost 30-40 feet tall
> >> bark: dark cracked
> >> Leaves at the ends of the branches
> >> Leaves simple opposite 5-10 cm by 3-4 cm
> >> Ovate petioles only 0.5 cm
> >> younger leaves seen reddish and later light green.
>
> >> fruits are small and black when ripe edible and consumed by humans
>
> >> --

> >> *Jui Pethe*

>
> >> Senior Research Fellow,
> >> NAIP-ICAR Project,
> >> Yashwantrao Chavan Maharashtra Open University
> >> Nashik
>
> > --

> > *Tanay Bose*

> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > Department of Botany.
> > University of British Columbia .
> > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca

> > *Webpages:*

[jui]

I have posted the photographs of karap here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69588091@N06/6327521967/in/photostream

date: 6.11.11
Location: Vihigaon Near Kasara Dist Thane Maharashtra
Locally called Karap
It is a tree almost 30-40 feet tall
bark: dark cracked
Leaves at the ends of the branches
Leaves simple opposite 5-10 cm by 3-4 cm
Ovate petioles only 0.5 cm
younger leaves seen reddish and later light green.

fruits are small and black when ripe edible and consumed by humans

Thanks regards,

Jui

[shrikant ingalhalikar]

Possibly Lagerstroemia microcarpa, Nana in marathi. A capsule picture
can confirm the ID. Regards, Shrikant

[jui]

I checked out for Nana but the plant has white bark while the one i
saw had a dark almost black bark.
leaves of Nana are lance shaped with a slight acuminate apex while the
tree i saw had ovate leaves.

I do not think it would be L. microcarpa

[Vijayasankar]

It may be Ixora arborea. But more details of the plant are needed to confirm the id.

 

Regards 

 

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

[jui pethe]

sir pls let me know what details u would need. i'll try revisiting the
place as soon as possible
thank you for your suggestion
regards

[Satish Phadke]

What do you mean by what details?You are a research fellow you must understand this. Just observe what most people are posting.
As per posting guidelines you have to attach photo images. No links.
Secondly on clicking the link; a picture of only one leaf can be seen that is also not complete. How can one go to the ID?
Sorry to be clear enough but whatever you have written neatly in the text shoud be supplemented with similar images in this digital era like flowers, leaves, stem and whatever character available.
We want your posts on this group but please follow the posting guidelines. There are many experts who can help you

--
Dr Satish Phadke

[Ushadi micromini]

I second Dr. Satish Phadke wholeheartedly...
I am glad he has said all that needs to be said clearly...

ITS UP TO YOU JUI TO follow up...

This would be good learning process for you...though you should have
learnt it by now during MSc and PhD before becoming a research
fellow...

BUT ITS NEVER TOO LATE TO LEARN, so you are lucky to be here in this
forum, and please take advantage of this and
read these comments positively and learn and grow... and become
successful..

all our good wishes are with you, but you must do your share of
teaching yourself...

usha di

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On Nov 10, 7:02 pm, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do you mean by what details?You are a research fellow you must
> understand this. Just observe what most people are posting.
> As per posting guidelines you have to attach photo images. No links.
> Secondly on clicking the link; a picture of only one leaf can be seen that
> is also not complete. How can one go to the ID?
> Sorry to be clear enough but whatever you have written neatly in the text
> shoud be supplemented with similar images in this digital era like flowers,
> leaves, stem and whatever character available.
> We want your posts on this group but please follow the posting guidelines.
> There are many experts who can help you
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, jui pethe <juipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > sir pls let me know what details u would need. i'll try revisiting the
> > place as soon as possible
> > thank you for your suggestion
> > regards

> > On 11/9/11, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It may be Ixora arborea. But more details of the plant are needed to
> > > confirm the id.
>
> > > Regards
>
> > > Vijayasankar Raman
> > > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > > University of Mississippi
>

[Vijayasankar]

Dear Jui ji,

Sorry for the delayed response. I appreciate your interest in collecting required details for identification. Hope now you are clear what to do and what not while posting an id query. Please don't forget to capture pictures of whole plant, a twig to see leaf arrangement clearly, close up of (entire) leaves, flowers and fruits whatever available. Observe any thorns, latex, stipules, etc are present. If you see flower record the number of stamens and other features. If you see fruit, try to count and picture the seeds also. Try to record local name and local use if available/possible. Read the posting guidelines in the group's webpage to know how to upload. You can post multiple pictures of the same species in one mail. If you have doubt, please let us know.

Hope this helps. Happy posting :)

 

Regards 

 

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

[jui]

Dear Sir,

fist of all I am sorry if i have infuriated you...I did not mean even
a bit of it.

I accept i am a research fellow but not one from botany stream i am
research fellow of agriculture education. I am working on a project on
technology mediated learning in agriculture distance education.

besides i have been sharing links because i cannot upload more than 4
mb in google group. uploading each photo differently would have caused
total confusion for identification. I created a flicker account for
this purpose itself. i have posted the entire leaf photo to illustrate
the underside of the leaf which is very close to the jamun leaf. I
have shared photos of the entire tree with leaves. a photo to
illustrate the leaf arrangement also.

I am really sorry to have not followed the guidelines but i did not
mean to do the same.

On Nov 10, 7:02 pm, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What do you mean by what details?You are a research fellow you must
> understand this. Just observe what most people are posting.
> As per posting guidelines you have to attach photo images. No links.
> Secondly on clicking the link; a picture of only one leaf can be seen that
> is also not complete. How can one go to the ID?
> Sorry to be clear enough but whatever you have written neatly in the text
> shoud be supplemented with similar images in this digital era like flowers,
> leaves, stem and whatever character available.
> We want your posts on this group but please follow the posting guidelines.
> There are many experts who can help you
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, jui pethe <juipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > sir pls let me know what details u would need. i'll try revisiting the
> > place as soon as possible
> > thank you for your suggestion
> > regards

> > On 11/9/11, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It may be Ixora arborea. But more details of the plant are needed to
> > > confirm the id.
>
> > > Regards
>
> > > Vijayasankar Raman
> > > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > > University of Mississippi
>

[Satish Phadke]

Don't worry Jui ji
The photos have to be only 800bye 600kb.reduced to size 200 kb.
There are simple free softwares like Faststone image viewer(I often use that . It is trouble free)Just search and download. Then you can easily send as many pictures as possible.
We as tree lover are also eager to know the identity of your tree. Try to catch more pictures and sen them when time permits.Take your own time.

--
Dr Satish Phadke

[jui pethe]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:25 PM, jui pethe <juip...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks a lot for this assistance.

I am uploading photographs of the trees as i have managed to capture.

I am willing to improve my skills to enable better identification.

regards,

Jui

--

Jui Pethe

Senior Research Fellow,

NAIP-ICAR Project,

Yashwantrao Chavan Maharashtra Open University

Nashik

--

Jui Pethe

[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Jui ji do you have any photographs? Please attach them if possible.” from Phadke ji.             

                

“... based on common name karap OR karpa, there is at least one species, which you may check for: Lepisanthes tetraphylla” from Dinesh ji.

 

"I have referred to the name Lepisanthes tetraphylla before. but it has
2 Major differences
1. the leaves of Lepisanthes tetraphylla are compound
2. the leaves of Lepisanthes tetraphylla are alternately arranged.

warm regards,

Jui"

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1860 members & 1,15,000 messages on 30/4/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 6500 species).

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 

[jmgarg1]

A reply:
"I happened to talk to a few people working in the same area who told
me that the local people call Memecylon umbellatum as karap. Now I
think I need to observe its flowers to confirm.

Thnaks and Regards,

Jui"

On 17/05/2012, jmgarg1 <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “Jui ji do you have any photographs? Please attach them if possible.” from
> Phadke ji.
>
>
>
> “... based on common name karap OR karpa, there is at least one species,

> which you may *check for: Lepisanthes tetraphylla*” from Dinesh ji.
>
>
> "I have referred to the name Lepisanthes tetraphylla before. but *it has
> 2 Major differences
> *1. the leaves of Lepisanthes tetraphylla are compound

> 2. the leaves of Lepisanthes tetraphylla are alternately arranged.
> warm regards,
> Jui"
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jui pethe <juip...@gmail.com>
> Date: 8 November 2011 11:19
> Subject: [efloraofindia:92901] ID of tree called Karap
> To: indian...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> date: 6.11.11
> Location: Vihigaon Near Kasara Dist Thane Maharashtra
> Locally called Karap
> It is a tree almost 30-40 feet tall
> bark: dark cracked
> Leaves at the ends of the branches
> Leaves simple opposite 5-10 cm by 3-4 cm
> Ovate petioles only 0.5 cm
> younger leaves seen reddish and later light green.
>
> fruits are small and black when ripe edible and consumed by humans
>
>
> --

> *Jui Pethe*

>
> Senior Research Fellow,
> NAIP-ICAR Project,
> Yashwantrao Chavan Maharashtra Open University
> Nashik
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* &

> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1860 members &
> 1,15,000 messages on 30/4/12) or Efloraofindia website:
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
> of more than 6500 species).
> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> India'.
>

--
With regards,
J.M.Garg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* &

[jmgarg1]

Here is another thread giving pictures:

https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#search/Karap/13386ddd31704164

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Unidentified 4 

Group discussion at

ID of tree called Karap (google.com) 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Unidentified 4 

Group discussion at

ID of tree called Karap (google.com)