SK 2436 06 February 2020

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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 6, 2020, 4:47:00 AM2/6/20
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Dear Members
 
Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
Date: 10 September  2019
Elevation: 1370 m.
Habitat : Wild.

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Saroj Kasaju
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Feb 6, 2020, 4:47:34 AM2/6/20
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Feb 6, 2020, 4:50:48 AM2/6/20
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Correction:
Dear Members
 
Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
Date: 06 February 2020

Elevation: 1370 m.
Habitat : Wild.


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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 6, 2020, 4:52:46 AM2/6/20
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Dear Members
 
Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
Date: 06 February 2020
Elevation: 1370 m.
Habitat : Wild.

Tall tree about 70-100 ft.(Approx)
Seeds sticky red.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 7, 2020, 3:30:32 AM2/7/20
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Pls ignore !

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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 5, 2021, 7:15:57 AM4/5/21
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ID pending !

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2021, 2:13:26 AM4/9/21
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Any idea about the family ? Detailed images available at SK 2436 06 February 2020
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Apr 13, 2021, 6:00:00 AM4/13/21
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Solanaceae, Cestrum sp.,
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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 13, 2021, 6:32:31 AM4/13/21
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No match with any Cestrum !
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 13, 2021, 7:42:01 AM4/13/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Any idea about the family ? Detailed images available at SK 2436 06 February 2020- from me 

Solanaceae, Cestrum sp.,- from Paradesi ji

No match with any Cestrum !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Any Jasminum species ?- from me 


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surajit koley

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Apr 14, 2021, 11:20:18 AM4/14/21
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Couldn't find any match, Sir.
70-100 ft tall Jasminum or Cestrum? Don't know of any.
I would think of member of Lauraceae, like Litsea, but again couldn't find a suitable match.

Thank you.
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Surajit Koley

J.M. Garg

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Apr 20, 2021, 8:43:41 AM4/20/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Any idea about the family ? Detailed images available at SK 2436 06 February 2020- from me 

Solanaceae, Cestrum sp.,- from Paradesi ji

No match with any Cestrum !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Any Jasminum species ?- from me 

Couldn't find any match, Sir.
70-100 ft tall Jasminum or Cestrum? Don't know of any.
I would think of member of Lauraceae, like Litsea, but again couldn't find a suitable match.
Thank you.
Best regards,

Surajit Koley 

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 20, 2021, 9:59:55 AM4/20/21
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Thanks a lot, Rajeev ji.

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Not Cestrum, Jasminum or Litsea, Its definitely a member of Solanaceae, but without flower and mature fruit, cannot say anything with surety.


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surajit koley

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Apr 20, 2021, 10:43:42 AM4/20/21
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Thanks SIr, that explains why I failed on Litsea !!!
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Surajit Koley

J.M. Garg

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Apr 25, 2021, 7:32:55 AM4/25/21
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Detailed images available at SK 2436 06 February 2020
Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Any idea about the family ? Detailed images available at SK 2436 06 February 2020- from me 

Solanaceae, Cestrum sp.,- from Paradesi ji

No match with any Cestrum !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

Any Jasminum species ?- from me 

Couldn't find any match, Sir.
70-100 ft tall Jasminum or Cestrum? Don't know of any.
I would think of member of Lauraceae, like Litsea, but again couldn't find a suitable match.
Thank you.
Best regards,

Surajit Koley 

Not Cestrum, Jasminum or Litsea, Its definitely a member of Solanaceae, but without flower and mature fruit, cannot say anything with surety.- from Rajeev Singh ji 


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surajit koley

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Apr 29, 2021, 9:48:31 AM4/29/21
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Saroj Sir,

I attach here resized photographs of your plant sp. Please, confirm all pictures are from the same plant.

Please, forgive me, I ask you this because the last picture seems to display ripe fruit and after uploading the same you asked to ignore it - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/E83ztn9_gqc/m/1Am_ULdYBAAJ

And, also the tree is around 70 to 100 ft?

Can any member tell me which Solanaceace has 70ft representative in Indian subcontinent?


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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 30, 2021, 2:43:41 AM4/30/21
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Dealer Surjit ji !

It is a small bushy shrub not very thick branches about 5/6 m. only !
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surajit koley

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Apr 30, 2021, 9:17:10 AM4/30/21
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Thank you, Sir.

But, I am afraid, no solanaceae member, listed in Flora of Nepal, meets your species.

Only, Solanum erianthum (NOT your plant) may attain the assumed size of your species.


I do not think your plant belongs to any of the above two Solanaceae members.

Thank you.
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Surajit Koley

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 30, 2021, 9:44:56 AM4/30/21
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It is not I guess.
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radha veach

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Apr 30, 2021, 12:46:00 PM4/30/21
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If the seed images don't belong to this plant then it seems to be Cestrum nocturnum.

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Radha

J.M. Garg

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May 6, 2021, 12:22:12 PM5/6/21
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Thanks, Surajit ji and Radha ji,
On closer examination to me all the images posted by Saroj ji (except the dried fruit), belong to the same plant.
These looks somewhat different from images at Cestrum nocturnum



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surajit koley

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May 6, 2021, 9:36:05 PM5/6/21
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I think Paradesi ji and Radha ji, both are correct.

The last picture ( "except the dried fruit", as you say) doesn\t belong to the plant concerned.
Not branches, but the entire plant would be not more than 5 to 6 meter tall.

Thank you.
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Surajit Koley

radha veach

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May 6, 2021, 11:10:54 PM5/6/21
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Thank you Surajit ji,

Cestrum nocturnum does occur in the wild as an escape and can grow among other plants taking the support of small trees. The images here are typical of this species at the immature fruiting stage.

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Radha

Saroj Kasaju

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May 7, 2021, 12:53:30 AM5/7/21
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All images belong to same plant !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


J.M. Garg

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May 7, 2021, 1:14:44 AM5/7/21
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Green fruits are different from images at Cestrum nocturnum



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surajit koley

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May 7, 2021, 3:11:03 AM5/7/21
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Yes, Madam, I also saw them growing in the wild. I just couldn't visualize that they can attain such a height to call them trees! Of-course I am not that good observant, at least, was not observant at all before joining eFI.


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surajit koley

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May 7, 2021, 3:17:45 AM5/7/21
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Ok, Sir ji, I made the mistake. first taking it as a 70 ft tree, then a shrub having 15-20 ft ranches. I apologize.
However, all your pictures can be compared with the images available at -

Thank you.
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Surajit Koley

surajit koley

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May 7, 2021, 3:19:38 AM5/7/21
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These are just green fruit, Sir! Saroj ji might have picked ripe fruits from the ground below.


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J.M. Garg

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May 7, 2021, 3:29:53 AM5/7/21
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Thanks, Surajit ji.
Do you agree with Radha ji's id?
I am not fully satisfied. Leaves also look slightly different. 
Can there be some other wild species close to it?

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surajit koley

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May 7, 2021, 3:37:29 AM5/7/21
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Yes, Sir, I do agree 100%, instead of looking at the "single leaf" picture, please compare the leaves present in the other pictures.


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Surajit Koley

surajit koley

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May 7, 2021, 3:45:25 AM5/7/21
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