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Yazdy Palia

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Jun 2, 2010, 6:54:30 AM6/2/10
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Pictures of a fern, ID please
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Yazdy.

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tanay bose

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Jun 2, 2010, 7:49:25 AM6/2/10
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I think this is "Shield fern" !! Can this be Dryopteris marginalis?
Tanay


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Satish Chile

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Jun 2, 2010, 7:54:49 AM6/2/10
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Yes Tanay ji it is Dryopteris marginalis
Satish
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tanay bose

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Jun 2, 2010, 7:57:43 AM6/2/10
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Bingo !! I got it on target !! i was waiting for a validation as the sorus are not available in the photos hence I was hesitating to move into the species level but it looked like D marginalis to me.
Tanay

Vijayadas D

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Jun 2, 2010, 11:11:03 PM6/2/10
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Microlepia sps.
Vijayadas D
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Anantanarayan Rajaram

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Jun 3, 2010, 1:03:58 AM6/3/10
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Dear All,
I am attaching the SEM pictures of the sora of two sp. of ferns I got from Wynad(same place as Sri Yazdy's. Is it possible to know the sp.? I am not a Botanist but I have an SEM and just wanted to see the soral features as it caught my attention! Thanks and best regards,
Rajaram

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tanay bose

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Jun 3, 2010, 8:25:22 AM6/3/10
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Dear Anantanarayan Ji,
As far as I know the SEM of a sorus (sori) does minutely decipher the structure of a sorus present in the fern but is not enough to determine the genus or species. Available records say that though position , structure and morphology is a major point to validate a fern genus and species but singly is not enough. Hence until and unless the morphology of the plant body in brought into consideration identification is impossible.
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Tanay

Stephen A

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Jun 3, 2010, 11:17:44 PM6/3/10
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Dear All,

As a Palynologist I would like to add some more point in this regard.
The identification of spore and pollen is limited to different level of hierarchy - not always species level.
Some plants can be identified using pollen but as far as ferns are concern I go with Tanay's comments.
This is the major limitation of pollen analysis of past sediments with which am now working.
To overcome this limitation, the plants also need to be classified accordingly.
That is different line of the story.
But am very happy to see SEM pictures of Dr. Anantanarayan.
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tanay bose

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Jun 4, 2010, 12:04:21 AM6/4/10
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Dear Stephen,
I rightfully comment on the topic many angiosperms as well as  gymnosperm exine morphology and pore structure can determine the species. But When it comenes to Ferns palynologists are really helpless!!
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Tanay

Yazdy Palia

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Jun 9, 2010, 11:08:17 PM6/9/10
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Hello friends,
Which is this Solanum? While raw the fruits appear exactly like the
one identified by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji as Solanum Capsicoides when
raw but turns yellow when ripe.
Incidentally, though I had agreed with Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji at the
moment, there are no pictures of raw fruits in the pictures sent by
him.

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Yazdy.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 9, 2010, 11:47:16 PM6/9/10
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Yazdy ji
While trying to identify species of Solanum important things to note are: flower colour and size, fruit colour when young and mature, size of mature berry, and whether surface of fruit (young and mature) is glabrous or hairy. Could you please provide this information.

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tanay bose

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Jun 9, 2010, 11:50:33 PM6/9/10
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Dear Yady Ji,
It will be extremely kind of you if you can resend a bit larger photos, it is  easy to notice the minute characters which escape vision in smaller snaps.
Regards
Tanay

Yazdy Palia

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Jun 10, 2010, 1:09:50 AM6/10/10
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Thank you Sir, Shall do that right away.
Regards
Yazdy.

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Yazdy Palia

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Jun 11, 2010, 7:08:27 AM6/11/10
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Dear Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji,
The colour of the flowers are white, it may be around 8 mm in
diameter. The fruits are between 15 mm to 20 mm in diameter and are
not hairy. They are very smooth in texture. I have sent you more
pictures by Picasa. They seem to be turning into yellow as they
mature. I am keeping track if they do turn to red at all once it
ripens.
Regards
Yazdy.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 11, 2010, 12:39:02 PM6/11/10
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Yazdy ji
Tentatively I would call it as S. torvum. The prickles are broad based. 


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Yazdy Palia

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Jun 11, 2010, 12:49:52 PM6/11/10
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Dear Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji,
Am copying a link to S. Torvum. They look different to me. Am also
sending some pictures from my farm which I thought matches with the
pictures in the wikipedia link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum_torvum
Am sending it by Picasa.
Please enlighten me.
Regards
Yazdy.

R. Vijayasankar

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Jun 11, 2010, 7:20:31 PM6/11/10
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With regards

R. Vijayasankar


Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 11, 2010, 9:22:16 PM6/11/10
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Yes Vijayasankar ji and Kunhikanan ji
It could be S. viarum, the only point I find is that berries are supposed to be puberulent which I don't find here.


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Yazdy Palia

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Jun 12, 2010, 12:48:06 AM6/12/10
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Dear Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji,
Am copying a link below, to a lay person it does appear to resemble my
pictures, could the plant whose pictures, I had sent be Solanum
Viarum?
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=solanum+viarum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364
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Yazdy.

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 12, 2010, 1:08:08 AM6/12/10
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Agreed Yazdy ji


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Yazdy Palia

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Jun 19, 2010, 8:21:32 AM6/19/10
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ID Of this mushroom please?

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Yazdy.
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tanay bose

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Jun 19, 2010, 10:37:59 AM6/19/10
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Dear Yazdy Ji,
This mushroom belongs to the genus Leucocoprinus sp There are about more than 1000 species reported from the  tropics hence hard to determine species from the photos. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards
Tanay



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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 19, 2020, 8:08:04 AM11/19/20
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Solanum viarum ? 
ID Looks good 
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 19, 2020, 8:09:22 AM11/19/20
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Solanum viarum ? 
ID Looks good 
Group discussion at

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Nov 19, 2020, 8:11:03 AM11/19/20
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Yes it's Sir Ji, 
With regards. 

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 21, 2020, 7:34:19 AM11/21/20
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Thanks a lot Paradesi ji.




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