Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.
Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.
Dear Gurcharan,
I think there is no need to cc Harry Paris, who lives in Israel and is a specialist on Cucumis, Cucurbita, and Citrullus.
Without knowing the location, I cannot know which of the 5 species of Zehneria is shown on your photos.
The reason is that I have not seen photos of all Zehneria from India, so I cannot know there "look when alive" - I only know pressed cucs. from India.
In our "Checklist of the Cucs of India" we provide a link to an images of the type of Zehneria maysorensis.
Have you looked at that image?
Susanne
Dear Prof Zenner
Perhaps it would be interesting to know the identity of Zehneria scabra uploaded from India as given in my links above which I am repeating:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria/indiantreepix/cCGIzB2cd9A/lEwSmgknYegJ
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria/indiantreepix/cCGIzB2cd9A/lEwSmgknYegJ
Also the plant depicted on Flowers of India
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Cape%20Zehneria.html
Should we call above plants as Zehneria maysorensis?
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Susanne Renner <ren...@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
Dear Gurcharan,
Here is the answer:
Pilogyne scabra (L.f.) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes, Blumea 55(3): 294. 2010
Zehneria scabra (L. f.) Sond. in Harv. & Sond., Fl. Cap. 2: 486 (1862). Type: South Africa, Thunberg (UPS, holotype!).
Bryonia scabra L.f., Suppl. Pl. (1781) 423. — Type: Thunberg s.n. (holo UPS), South Africa, Cape Province.
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Melothria scabra Naudin -- Ann. Sci. Nat., Bot. sér. 5, 6: 10. 1866, Type: Cerro Redondo, Depart. Santa Rosa, Guatemala, Heyde s.n. (K)
Image of type is here: http://plants.jstor.org/specimen/k000435992
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Hope this helps,
Susanne Renner
On Oct 21, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
Dear Prof Renner and Harry Paris
I have circulated this on efloraofindia but with no results. Perhaps you can help.
Dear friends
I have been somewhat confused about the status of Zehneria scabra, uploaded by several members including Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, and other members from Kas
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria/indiantreepix/cCGIzB2cd9A/lEwSmgknYegJ
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Zehneria/indiantreepix/cCGIzB2cd9A/lEwSmgknYegJ
These confusions are often confounded by the absence of author citations. Strange as it may look Zehneria scabra (L.f.) Sond (Swedeish name flikig pilreva), and Melothria scabra Naudin (Swedish name djungelgurka), are two distinct species, often confused on net, as Melothria scabra is an important species with good looking mini watermelon like fruits, and none look similar to our Kas plants.