Celtis tetrandra?/ABDEC35

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Ashwini Bhatia

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Dec 20, 2014, 7:27:04 AM12/20/14
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I thought this small tree to be the Eastern Nettle. But after taking close ups of its leaves, I am not so sure (for one the leaves margins are entirely toothed unlike that of Celtis). The leaves are slightly rough and papery. Please advise.

Eastern Nettle Tree (Celtis tetrandra)–Please confirm
Local: Khirk
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

Thanks.
Ashwini

J.M. Garg

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Dec 28, 2014, 10:58:13 AM12/28/14
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Ashwini Bhatia

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Jan 7, 2015, 9:47:07 AM1/7/15
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An update:
I found a lone black berry growing on this tree today and made a record of it hoping it helped in identifying.

Thanks.
Ashwini


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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
efi page on Celtis tetrandra                                         

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Date: 20 December 2014 at 17:56
Subject: [efloraofindia:209948] Celtis tetrandra?/ABDEC35
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I thought this small tree to be the Eastern Nettle. But after taking close ups of its leaves, I am not so sure (for one the leaves margins are entirely toothed unlike that of Celtis). The leaves are slightly rough and papery. Please advise.

Eastern Nettle Tree (Celtis tetrandra)–Please confirm
Local: Khirk
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

Thanks.
Ashwini
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 16, 2015, 11:10:10 PM1/16/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Celtis tetrandra

An update:

I found a lone black berry growing on this tree today and made a record of it hoping it helped in identifying.
Thanks.
Ashwini 
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Ashwini Bhatia

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Jan 7, 2016, 9:50:25 AM1/7/16
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I found two very large trees of the same species this evening. Can we hazard a guess to the genus? Please advise.

I am attaching a couple of additional photos.

Thanks.
Ashwini


On 17 Jan 2015, at 09:40, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
efi page on Celtis tetrandra
An update:
I found a lone black berry growing on this tree today and made a record of it hoping it helped in identifying.
Thanks.
Ashwini 

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Date: 20 December 2014 at 17:56
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I thought this small tree to be the Eastern Nettle. But after taking close ups of its leaves, I am not so sure (for one the leaves margins are entirely toothed unlike that of Celtis). The leaves are slightly rough and papery. Please advise.

Eastern Nettle Tree (Celtis tetrandra)–Please confirm
Local: Khirk
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

Thanks.
Ashwini
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 14, 2016, 3:29:38 AM1/14/16
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
efi page on Celtis tetrandra

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 3, 2016, 6:16:42 AM3/3/16
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A reply:
"Please find the plant ID for link below:
Celtis australis L.
Leaves coarsely serrate to the base, drupes purplish-black, a non-native cultivated tree species, common in submontane and montane Himalaya.
Khirk, European Nettle Tree.
Kind regards,
Varun"

Thanks, Varun ji.

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Ashwini Bhatia

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Mar 3, 2016, 11:31:25 AM3/3/16
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Thank you Mr Garg for this and the other ID. Please pass on my thanks to Varun ji.

Regards,
Ashwini

On 3 Mar 2016, at 16:46, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

A reply:
"Please find the plant ID for link below:
Celtis australis L.
Leaves coarsely serrate to the base, drupes purplish-black, a non-native cultivated tree species, common in submontane and montane Himalaya.
Khirk, European Nettle Tree.
Kind regards,
Varun"

Thanks, Varun ji.

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Date: 20 December 2014 at 17:56
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I thought this small tree to be the Eastern Nettle. But after taking close ups of its leaves, I am not so sure (for one the leaves margins are entirely toothed unlike that of Celtis). The leaves are slightly rough and papery. Please advise.

Eastern Nettle Tree (Celtis tetrandra)–Please confirm
Local: Khirk
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

Thanks.
Ashwini
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 10, 2024, 1:46:41 AM6/10/24
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I think it should be Celtis caucasica (syn: Celtis australis subsp. caucasica (Willd.) C.C.Towns.) as per discussions at Help identify this Celtis species
POWO does not give any distribution of Celtis australis L.in India. 

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 10, 2024, 5:22:14 AM6/10/24
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1. From stem bark it is not Celtis species, in Celtis its grey, smooth or sometime with white specks,
2. Leaves have double serration not found in Celtis species, even venation does not match with Celtis,
3. It could be helpful if we had fruit image.

Not sure about species from leaves and stem bark, local name is also not correct.

Kind regards,
Varun
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 10, 2024, 5:24:45 AM6/10/24
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Hi, Varun ji,
You have identified these as 

A reply:
"Please find the plant ID for link below:
Celtis australis L.
Leaves coarsely serrate to the base, drupes purplish-black, a non-native cultivated tree species, common in submontane and montane Himalaya.
Khirk, European Nettle Tree.
Kind regards,
Varun"
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