Re: [n2adr-sdr] quisk: RFE: PTT TOT (time-out timer)

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"Christoph v. Wüllen"

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Jun 15, 2021, 1:45:23 PM6/15/21
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(Cross-posted to HL2 group as well).

Other SDR’s have a „watchdog timer“ built into the firmware, that shuts down the radio if no IP packet arrived for
a second or so. This should be do-able in the HL2 firmware.

> Am 15.06.2021 um 19:08 schrieb Jaroslav Škarvada <zb...@atlas.cz>:
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> Hi,
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> I am using quisk remotely over the internet to control HL2 and I would really appreciate the PTT TOT feature. E.g. if the network connection fails and if the radio is by chance keyed down (e.g. in FM or digi mode), the HL2 firmware will unkey it only when the radio overheats, which, if you have really good cooling, can take hours or even more. If the network (internet connection) doesn't recover, the radio can stay keyed for quite a long time, which is not good. Moreover, such problem can also happen if the third party software (e.g. wsjtx) crashes and doesn't sent the PTT OFF to quisk.
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> That's why I think having PTT TOT option in the quisk would be beneficial for users. Such option could be set to 'infinity' or 'off' by default and user could freely set it in seconds or minutes. The TOT timer should kick-in after the preset timeout and stop the packet stream to the radio for the firmware to unkey it
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> 73! Jaroslav, OK2JRQ
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Jaroslav Škarvada

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Jun 15, 2021, 2:13:09 PM6/15/21
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Such watchdog is in the HL2 firmware, but it doesn't resolve this type
of problems, because it's the quisk which is sending the packets and the
ethernet connection between the quisk and the HL2 is OK, it's the
internet connection between the client (controlling the quisk remotely)
and the quisk which fails

73! Jaroslav, OK2JRQ

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:07:12 PM6/15/21
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On a Linux machine (Raspberry Pi, et.al.), one might be able to solve this issue by running a daemon (python script?) on the HL2 connected server that periodically pings the WAN network, VPN, and/or the remote desktop client, and kills quisk (and/or other SDR software) if the control operator's network stops responding for over a minute or whatever.
73,
Ron
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Jaroslav Škarvada

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Jun 15, 2021, 7:33:25 PM6/15/21
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I am using similar hack. But it doesn't help with issues when the 3rd
party SW crashes, e.g. wsjtx sends PTT ON to quisk, then it crashes for
some reason and quisk will never receive PTT OFF. Well, you can solve it
with more advanced hack - e.g. pinging wsjtx on its listening port and
in case of no response kill -9 wsjtx and quisk, but there are 3rd party
SWs which are more challenging (e.g. no listening port :). Or rather
kill everything in case of no internet connection (to be sure that the
wsjtx is under operator control :). This works, but I think it may
deserve more polished and systematic out-of-the box solution, which I
think the TOT is

73! Jaroslav, OK2JRQ

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