GQueues and GQueues Lite

[Cameron]

The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
($25/year) are now available:

http://www.gqueues.com/pricing

For more information on this change see my earlier post here:
http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea50a41913


Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific
suggestions:
http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4EDAsSBVF1ZXVlGNnKCgw

Thanks everyone,
Cameron

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[Rob]

I am so pissed off right now. I switched from Remember the Milk
(invested lots of time re-entering tasks) because this service was
free. My annual renewal with RTM was up and they were charging me $25
per year - AND CAME WITH AN IPHONE APP that was a better interface
than the website version. I decided to go to GQueues - and 6 weeks
later you inform me that we are going to charge $25. I should have
just stayed with RTM. Half the time, I cannot get your web interface
to allow me to enter the details for a new task from Safari on my
iPhone. At least RTM worked.

On Apr 19, 2:42 pm, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:
> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

[spadesmaster]

Cameron,

I have no problem paying for your product (and have), but the site is
so slow today as to be unusable. I was hesitant to complain about
this before, but now that we are paying for the service, can you get
your queries/hardware, whatever upgraded so the site is usable?

I am so sick of the:

"Ah snap! There was a problem getting the queue items. Please try
again later."

I am splitting up my queues to have less than 10 items each and still
this is coming up, HELP!

Christopher

[Jenny Curry]

Guess I replied to the author and not the forum. I too have no
problem paying for the site, and in fact just did so. However, since
I did, I too am getting the "Ah snap!..." message rendering the site
unusable. For a pay for site, that is unacceptable. If it continues
today, I'll stop payment on the Visa.

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[Cameron (GQueues Team)]

I apologize for the slow/failed loading of queues.  There was a spike in slowness on AppEngine this morning but it looks like Google has the server's back on track now.

http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/serving/2010/04/20#ae-trust-detail-helloworld-get-latency

-Cameron

[Gauthier]

I am quite pissed off as well.
I was using RTM free + Astrid on my Android phone. Apart from the fact
that the RTM calendar in Google Calendar is read only, it was working
quite well.

I pay 18$ a year for a Flickr pro account where i can store unlimited
hi-res photos.
I pay 20$ for a web-hosting service with domain name and quite a large
amount of bandwith.

25$ for GQueues is a rip-off.

Moreover i cant remove the Google Calendar Gadget on my sidebar :(

On Apr 21, 12:55 am, "Cameron (GQueues Team)" <came...@gqueues.com>
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> I apologize for the slow/failed loading of queues.  There was a spike in
> slowness on AppEngine this morning but it looks like Google has the server's
> back on track now.
>

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[dj Rowan]

I'm also not really too happy about this new fee. I have just gotten
more-or-less used to this new way of managing tasks, and have just
started using it to collaborate on task lists with my colleagues. To
now have to pay not for one account, but possibly 2-3 is NOT OK. If
the system were flawless and totally reliable I'd be more inclined,
but I am constantly reminded of how this is not a perfect piece of
software.
I find the drag+drop functionality in FF on OS X Snow Leopard to be
nearly unusable. I can't seem to drop tasks easily above or below- or
as sub tasks. Its really annoying! It just jumps around a bunch, then
crashes sometimes. There are many other quirks and issues i've
encountered. It appears to be a decent FREE app, but to now pay
reasonable cash for it seems really frustrating.

I am totally in support of rewarding you and your team for creating a
useful tool, but I am not convinced it is ready for the limelight yet.
I can only hope that by paying for this, I will be support you enough
to fix the bugs and make this an even better tool. The iphone app is
annoying too- its slow, and you can't move tasks into sub-tasks. It
also demands i type in my Google password each time i go to the page.
Really not a handy way of doing it on the iphone.. especially when my
password is complex and long!

I am not sure if i will pay for the full version of this yet. I want
to know that this project/tool/team will be committed to improving and
leading the niche field before I sink my $$ into it.

thanks for listening.
and.. keep it up (also step it up if you want my $$ ! )

rowan

On Apr 19, 11:42 am, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:
> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

[Christoph]

I think valid points are being raised by people about whether GQueues
is 100% stable.

My experience is that a couple months ago, I got a lot of "Snap..."
messages and it was annoying. I had temporary difficulties even
deleting Queues.

During the last month or two, any problem has been rare to
nonexistent. I can't really remember the last time GQueues wasn't
working.

So that's been an enormous improvement for me.

Some people came to GQueues from RTM because, now like GQueues, RTM
has both a free and paid version, priced the same as GQueues.

All I can say is I TWICE tried RTM. They seem like nice people, but I
found their web app clunky to use. It all made sense, but wasn't
intuitive. Too many places to look for things, places I wouldn't
necessarily have chosen to put them myself.

GQueues seems so much closer to actual lists for me, on paper, and
both more in line with how my brain thinks and how I like to work.

It's faster and more easily adjustable for me than paper, goes more
places, the development is ongoing (still hoping for dedicated mobile
apps).

Even now, it's better for my uses than RTM because of it's simplicity
and rational organization, plus AJAXy goodness.

As a minor matter, I like it's colorfulness. It makes it fun to work
with.

So I hope you stay using GQueues Lite or Pro, but I really don't think
Cameron is doing anything wrong by giving us a trial of his product,
and then asking us at the end if we want to pay ~$2 a month for it,
use a free Lite version, or try something else.

IF you're trying something else because it's better for you, then so
be it. Who can fault you for that?

But if it's for the fee, well, I value my time enough that I can
justify the $2 if and when I need to upgrade from Lite to Pro.

YMMV

On Apr 19, 11:42 am, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:

> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

[Gauthier]

The point raised by dj Rowan is really important: the webapp for
mobile is annoying in the fact that you have to type your password
everytime.
Moreover it is slow, and does not work in offline mode.

Maybe if there was an iPhone and Android app that supports offline
mode, i could be enclined to pay something like 5 or 10$.

The only really useful functionnality of QGueues was the neat
integration in Google Calendar. I honestly don't care about shared
tasks, assignments or smart queues.

I came back to my old setup, which is:
- RTM free
- RTM events in Google Calendar
- Astrid on my Android phone, working in offline mode, and doing the
reminders
- Calendar on my Android phone, which can sync the RTM events
calendar, and show me my tasks

The only thing i lack is that the Calendar only works as read only, so
i have to create tasks in Astrid/RTM.
This is not worth th 25$ you are asking, so i can leave with it.

[Jesse]

Ok, so I may actually buy this as it's the only decent webapp to get
it right with Google Calendar integration. Unfortunately, Google has
forced me into this corner because it's iCal support is pretty much
broken. On the other hand, GQueues is nice to look at, has a good
development cycle, and has the things I value like list sharing,
reminders, and a simple interface. Yes, it isn't perfect, but it's
the closest things I can find right now. $25 a year is reasonable
enough to keep my life on track.

[jyoseph]

I've been a huge gqueues supporter and have helped spread the word. I
have no problem paying $25 a year to use the service BUT IT NEEDS TO
BE MORE ON POINT! Still a lot of bugs and oh snap messages. I'm going
to fork over the $25 for each person in my company, but if the service
is buggy or inaccessible then I will be raising a stink. Count on it.

IMO you should have eased into this. Your service is great but your
company has no face, no real support channel and you make no real
promises as to reliability and future development. Why no web site?
Tell us about you, your company. It's just so weird in the days of the
open web that gqueues is basically faceless. Or am I missing
something?

I probably will not even get a reply to this thread. I'm actually
going to look around a bit before paying because I feel uneasy.

On Apr 19, 1:42 pm, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:
> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

[jyoseph]

I stand corrected, I see you have an about page. My apologies.

[Cameron (GQueues Team)]

Joe,

You certainly have been an active member on the discussion forum and a big supporter of GQueues, which I very much appreciate.  

As I said in my "upcoming changes" post a week ago, I plan to continue improving and developing GQueues, even though the "beta" period has ended.   You can get an idea of the rate of GQueues development by looking at the dates on the "What's New" page.  

http://www.gqueues.com/newFeatures

I think the posts on the discussion forum can give you an idea of my responsiveness to bugs and my ability to make improvements. You can expect similar growth in the product and responsiveness from me going forward.  

For those who always login to GQueues directly it's easy to miss, but yes, as you discovered there is a link to the About page from the GQueues home page.  

If you feel uneasy about buying subscriptions to GQueues then, yes, you certainly should shop around.  There are many task manager apps out there, each with their own set of strengths and weaknesses.  I am a big believer in using the right tool for the job.  Every person has their own style of managing work and it's important to find a tool that helps you, not one you must fight against.  And of course you can use GQueues Lite for free if you're still unsure or want more time to make a decision.  

-Cameron

[jyoseph]

I'm all paid up. My apologies Cameron. I think I'm on my man period. I
have no problem paying for things that add value, because these types
of tools pay for themselves and add more value than the $25/yr. I just
felt like the beta rug got ripped out from under my feet and I over
reacted. Hope you understand and can forgive.

I've been out of the loop so I didn't notice the other changes you
made. Anyway, I'm off to remove my foot from my mouth. Better put that
in a new queue. ;-)

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[AlexCampagna]

I was really happy to have found GQueues last week, it really was
exactly what I was looking for (sharing tasks, assignments, etc).

Unfortunately, the NEXT DAY it lost the beta status and became a
subscription fee service.
Since I was only given two weeks of trial, I don't think I'll be
paying for the PRO version. I can't test this in two weeks, I've got a
much too busy schedule and so do my work mates....

I think 30 or 45 days would have been a more appropriate time frame.

Alex

On Apr 19, 2:42 pm, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:
> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

[John Feiler]

yeah..... no. GQueues is ok, and was the only free app I could find
with collaboration (I like to share lists with my wife), but if I'm
going to pay for a task manager, it going to be for one that is
excellent, not just ok. Slow, no dedicated iPhone app, tags not
shared... ok, but not great. sorry.

On Apr 19, 11:42 am, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:

> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

[Christoph]

"I think 30 or 45 days would have been a more appropriate time frame."

I totally agree with you. I don't need the extra time myself, but I
think more people will see value in it if they're given a more
reasonable amount of time to try it.

30-day minimum.

Or... possibly... 2 week trial and then a 30-60 day money back
guarantee. Marketers call that "risk reversal".

Either way of doing it is appropriate. Cameron has the right to do a
shorter trial, but I don't think he'll make as many sales that way for
the reasons Alex gives.

[Emagin]

On Apr 28, 4:10 am, Christoph <christophdol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "I think 30 or 45 days would have been a more appropriate time frame."

I don't get it, what's wrong with using the lite version to test
things out?
The task sharing part and calendar integration you can get a sense of
pretty quickly.
For a totally free alterntive might look at Gubb.net which offers
sharing of tasks for free, but does not have the same UI, nor calendar
integration (You can autoemail reminders for tasks into gmail via your
special gmail inbound email for events)

GQ definitely has it on UI and ease of use, maybe not on speed though.
The free version seems to offer quite a bit.
The only thing I worry about is my current full version scaling back
to free version and whether there will be hiccups.
I'm backing all items up before that happens just in case.

[Katzfilms]

This ambushed me, I NEVER was notified I had to pay money for your
service. Are you going to hold user's info hostage for more money in
the future?

On Apr 19, 11:42 am, Cameron <came...@gqueues.com> wrote:

> The GQueues beta period has ended and GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues
> ($25/year) are now available:
>
> http://www.gqueues.com/pricing
>

> For more information on this change see my earlier post here:http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea5...

>
> Now I'm back to working on improvements based on your terrific

> suggestions:http://www.gqueues.com/public/queues/agdncXVldWVzchsLEgdBY2NvdW50GN4E...

>
> Thanks everyone,
> Cameron
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[Cameron (GQueues Team)]

Peter,

I'm sorry you feel this was an ambush.  If you haven't used GQueues in the last several weeks I can certainly see how it may have come as a surprise.  2 weeks ago when users logged in, a message was displayed noting the beta period has ended and was replaced by GQueues Lite (free) and GQueues (paid subscription).  I also posted a message on this forum noting the same thing ( http://groups.google.com/group/gqueues/browse_thread/thread/c665f1ea50a41913 ).  I gave everyone a 2-week free trial of the full version to help ease the transition.

But again, if you've been away for awhile then all of this would have been missed.  

I apologize for this coming as a shock to you.  However, I do want you to know that I am in no way holding your data hostage.  All of your data in GQueues will still be accessible in the GQueues Lite, which is the free version.  Also the export feature in GQueues allows you to take your data elsewhere as you please.

If you have further questions or suggestion feel free to share them on this forum or with me directly.

-Cameron

[robert....@googlemail.com]

Hi all, good to have found this thread after feeling unlucky today
when trying to get into my GQ account. Clears thing up.

For me collaboration is thé reason to work with GQ.

For the $25; please don't mind getting new features every week, but
get the programm to run stable, fast and durable. That's all.

Hey; and when you're venture is bought by Google - do we get our $25
back? Or can we even share in the profit as beta user? ;)

Robert.

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