Re: Fw: Abridged summary of gop_principles@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

[Edward Grund]

Brian,

You are absolutely right!   The SRTC as a whole has not vetted the Principles and must do so, before we can reasonably press ahead.  We should bring them up at the next meeting.   Also, I would like to discuss the instructions that the Committee will want to give their delegates to the Convention, assuming that the delegates are obliged to consider inputs from the Committee.  I had no  idea that there was a meeting Wednesday.  How does the word get out?

 

Also, I would like to see more than a non-commital plank in the GOP State Party Platform on abortion, but I have no idea whether it is possible to affect the Platform and what the mechanics are for doing so.

 

Good thoughts on the principles.

 

ed

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Brian Burke <BBurkeforSto...@msn.com> wrote:

Ed:

 

Have these principles actually been approved by the entire Stow RTC? I know I have some thoughts. 

 

Perhaps we should bring these up before the whole RTC before we talk about them as a fait accompli.

And because of my other commitments next Wednesday night, I would appreciate the opportunity to speak to them before they are adopted.

 

 

Here are some alternative that may be worth considering, but they can be tinkered with:

 

I'm a Republican Because...

• I BELIEVE the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person’s dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.

• I BELIEVE in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, creed, sex, age or disability.

• I BELIEVE free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative have brought this nation opportunity, economic growth and prosperity.

• I BELIEVE government must practice fiscal responsibility and allow individuals to keep more of the money they earn.

• I BELIEVE the proper role of government is to provide for the people only those critical functions that cannot be performed by individuals or private organizations, and that the best government is that which governs least.

• I BELIEVE the most effective, responsible and responsive government is government closest to the people.

• I BELIEVE Americans must retain the principles that have made us strong while developing new and innovative ideas to meet the challenges of changing times.

• I BELIEVE Americans value and should preserve our national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.

• FINALLY, I believe the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideals into positive and successful principles of government.
  

 

• We believe our courts should be used to resolve genuine conflicts rather than to redistribute wealth via a “legal lottery”.
• We believe individuals should be held accountable for their own actions.
• We realize that by removing the consequences from individuals’ bad decisions, only more bad decisions will result.
• We know that Reagan was right: "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
• We believe good policy requires that government be held accountable for its actions.
• We know that if you think health care is expensive now, just wait until you see what it costs when it's "free".

Principled Conservatism

 1. Just government protects Individual Sovereignty, Private Property and the Rule of Law.

2. When government is not granted an authority by Constitution, government cannot claim it.

3. Government must be no larger than required to carry out its Constitutional Obligations.

4. A Free Society cannot be “perfect.” A “perfect” society cannot be free. Individual Liberty is a higher value than collectivist “perfection.”

5. In a Free Society, one must respect the Liberty of others to live by values different than one’s own.

6. Personal Liberty and Economic Liberty are inseparable.

7. All government policy must be debated, judged, and justified by these Principles.

These are more simple, less dogmatic, and far less alienated.  It may be worth paring down the principles we adopt into more or less the "central idea" that Lincoln talked about.

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/dialogue/owens.html

This is my two cents.

Brian

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From: Edward Grund

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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:37 PM

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To: Matt Kianamen,

The Stow Republican Town Committee has produced a Statement of
Principles, which differs in specifics from the principles defined on
the State GOP's Web site.  To the extent that our statement may also
differ from the State Platform, we would like somehow to impact the
Platform, before the State Convention in April.  Could you please
return the current Platform and the email address of the appropriate
contact for inputs to the Platform.    I will send our Principles in
the next email.

Thank you.
Very Respectfully,

Ed Grund

To: Matt Kianamen,

 

The Stow Republican Town Committee's Statement of Principles is attached.

 

In anticipation of the upcoming State GOP Convention, we desire information on the platforms of candidates for nomination for the positions of  Governor, State Legislator, and U. S. Congress.  Do you know where we can obtain such to make our votes at the Convention better informed.

Thank you.
Very Respectfully,

Ed Grund

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To: Matt Kianamen,
 
The Stow Republican Town Committee has produced a Statement of
Principles, which differs in specifics from the principles defined on
the State GOP's Web site. more...

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[Brian Burke]

Call  me any time on how the convention works. 508-282-9422

 

Instructing delegates is an interesting idea, but it si properly "suggesting" at this point. .

[Kathy Olohan]

Like Ed, I would like "more than a non-committal plank in the GOP State Party Platform on abortion."

 

In 2008, the National GOP Platorm Committee was unwilling to compromise on its traditional abortion plank to accommodate John McCain's view.  The language was kept the same; it supported the following:

 

(1) banning abortion in all cases without exception,

(2) appointing pro-life judges,

(3) opposing the use of public funds to pay for abortions,

(4) promoting a Human Life Amendment.

 

Likewise, the 2008 Platform supported traditional marriage and the Defense of Marriage Act.

 

We should do the same.  Without the right to life and traditional marriage, all our other rights are meaningless.

 

Veritas!

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From: Brian Burke <BBurkeforSto...@msn.com>
To: Edward Grund <qua...@gmail.com>
Cc: Laura Folsom <laura....@comcast.net>; Craig and Cara Schomp <craig...@comcast.net>; Jack Mileski <Mile...@comcast.net>; SRTC Principles Group <gop_pri...@googlegroups.com>
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[Fred C. Johnson]

Thank you, Kathy.   Fred Johnson --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Kathy Olohan <kathy...@yahoo.com> wrote: