Support for Firefox 3.5?

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ErnstB

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Jun 18, 2009, 7:56:39 AM6/18/09
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Hi,

I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I just installed the new RC of Firefox 3.5.
However, the Gears plugin is disabled because it doe not support this
version. Are there any plans to support this new Firefox version? I
expected the plugin to work, because on the Google Gears website it is
stated that you need Firefox 1.5+.

Thanks,
Ernst

Mark Jarecki

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Jun 19, 2009, 11:04:20 PM6/19/09
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This something I'd also like to know. I just upgraded to Firefox 3.5
RC2 thinking Gears would still work (especially since the Wave demo).

Any chances on releasing an update soon?

Cheers,

Mark

josdigital

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Jun 21, 2009, 5:32:16 PM6/21/09
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They would probably tell you that RC is not an official release and
therefor remains unsupported, but a quick fix would be appreciated
though.

Jon Connelly

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Jun 20, 2009, 4:50:21 PM6/20/09
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Agreed. Support for Firefox 3.5RC2 would really be nice, considering
the final release it right around the corner.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/
20090615 Firefox/3.5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) ID:20090615172843

Thanks,
Jon

breukie

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Jun 25, 2009, 3:05:10 AM6/25/09
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Still no news on this topic?
The clock is ticking ...

J.O.D

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Jun 25, 2009, 5:49:08 AM6/25/09
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I've been using Firefox betas from 3.1 to the newest 3.5 rc3 and Gears
has remained unsupported through all of them.
Incredibly frustrating. Excited for update.

Jon

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Jun 27, 2009, 3:01:09 AM6/27/09
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I'm starting to think we may see a new version of the Google Apps
suite (Docs, Gmail, etc) that support Gears supporting HTML 5 rather
than a Gears release for a HTML 5 capable browser.

It would still be nice to get some official word from Google on what
the plan is here though.

Aaron Boodman

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Jun 29, 2009, 12:30:34 PM6/29/09
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We're working on pushing out a new Gears version that support FF 3.5.

We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
new RC is pushed.

- a (Google)

Jon

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Jun 29, 2009, 10:13:08 PM6/29/09
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Thanks for the response Aaron. Previous advice from Google in
searching this thread was that you updated for the RC.

It's good to know we'll have it soon. It looks like final release of
Firefox 3.5 is due in the next day or so.


On Jun 30, 2:30 am, Aaron Boodman <a...@google.com> wrote:
> We're working on pushing out a new Gears version that support FF 3.5.
>
> We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
> pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
> new RC is pushed.
>
> - a (Google)
>

Garret

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Jun 30, 2009, 10:57:58 AM6/30/09
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I just upgraded to the official Firefox 3.5, and Google Gears was
disabled. Can you imagine of upgrading to Firefox 3.5 disabled Flash?
Not a good step, Google.

Garret

Explorer5

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:12:55 PM6/30/09
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Or imagine if Google put out a new version of Chrome and Gears didn't
work... Sounds to me like Google is trying to do what it can to push
users to Chrome. The fact that they claim they'd have to do an update
for ever RC is ridiculous, the whole point of an RC's is that its
practically feature complete and its to check for last minute bugs. I
cant picture each RC being so different that they'd have to do some
major code re-writing.

Wraith

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Jul 1, 2009, 12:11:51 AM7/1/09
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The point is they would have to do a new build for each version, not a
new rebuild, ie. from scratch. This avoids the hassle of having to
track build numbers and versions for each build and version of
FireFox, or any other browser. Even a simple bug fix is another
version that needs to be kept track of. As much as I would have loved
to see gears working for each step of the process I do uderstand their
explaination.

Duncan

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Jun 30, 2009, 12:59:13 PM6/30/09
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Also just upgraded to Firefox 3.5 and no google gears support means no
offline gmail, very disappointing, particularly for enterprise gmail
users

itsdipesh

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Jul 1, 2009, 1:25:34 AM7/1/09
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I just upgraded to the official Firefox 3.5, and Google Gears was
disabled. My Gears version is 0.5.23.0.

gss4w

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:35:25 AM6/30/09
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If you don't bother testing for RC builds then how will you get any
user feedback if there are problems. Plus the final release of
Firefox 3.5 is out now and Gears does not work.

On Jun 29, 9:30 am, Aaron Boodman <a...@google.com> wrote:
> We're working on pushing out a new Gears version that support FF 3.5.
>
> We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
> pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
> new RC is pushed.
>
> - a (Google)
>

Dogsbody

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Jun 30, 2009, 5:18:42 PM6/30/09
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Well Firefox 3.5 has now gone gold and been released, the browsers on
all my computers have been updated and all of them have now disabled
Google Gears :-(

Thanks for a great product :-)

Dan

Dexae

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:30:04 AM6/30/09
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Firefox 3.5 is out http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html?from=getfirefox
no RC, no Beta, Final 3.5 like they said one week ago

Itay

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:43:57 AM6/30/09
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I agree.
Are we watching a proccess of Google becoming customer-deaf Microsoft?

i156

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:28:08 PM6/30/09
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Same here. I now have problem accessing my online Trouble Ticket
System because Google Gears isn't supported. I had to install Safari
to get it to work! Not very good google especially when this is a full
version of 3.5 not a RC. Can someone respond to this at least?

On Jun 30, 10:57 am, Garret <gar...@globalmentor.com> wrote:

Sam Johnston

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Jun 30, 2009, 9:54:14 AM6/30/09
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Afternoon all,

Firefox 3.5 is hitting the mirrors as we speak (http://www.mozilla.org/
mirrors.html) and should appear on http://firefox.com/ in the coming
hours - I'm posting this from it!

I've got some Gears weirdness - Gmail detects Gears (which comes up in
Tools->Add-ons as version 0.5.21.0 of "Gears for Safari") but then
tells me that "This page does not have permission to use Gears." and
that I should "Remove https://mail.google.com from the list of denied
sites". The right hand side of http://gears.google.com/ is blank (but
works as expected in Safari 4).

Anyway, is Gears even necessary any more? What does it give me over
native HTML 5 functionality?

Sam

NHLfan

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Jun 30, 2009, 1:13:39 PM6/30/09
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Firefox 3.5 was officially released today, but there is still no
updated version of gears?

Thierry

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:22:13 PM6/30/09
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Sad that since google developp its own browser google gears is not
ready on time as it was before for previous RC & final release of FF

Lailoken

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:42:39 AM6/30/09
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Yup, I just downloaded the official working version of 3.5.

Google dropped the ball on this one... they had lots of time to be
ready for this.

I think the usually excellent Google developers are slipping...

jjcf89

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Jun 30, 2009, 1:18:50 PM6/30/09
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Agreed just install 3.5 and lost gears support. Not cool.

tfreitas

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:57:56 PM6/30/09
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please people, patience

Nickname unavailable

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:30:45 AM6/30/09
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Anxiously awaiting 3.5 support. With the speed and JS improvements of
FF3.5 combined with gears hopefully my web app experience will finally
be what it should.

On Jun 30, 10:57 am, Garret <gar...@globalmentor.com> wrote:

HenrikB

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Jun 29, 2009, 3:37:00 PM6/29/09
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Thanks for the update - it is much better to know what your (Google's)
plans are/strategy is than having to 2nd guess them.

...hear from you tomorrow then ;)

Firefox 3.5 scheduled for Tuesday June 30, 2009:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2349445,00.asp

/H

On Jun 29, 9:30 am, Aaron Boodman <a...@google.com> wrote:
> We're working on pushing out a new Gears version that support FF 3.5.
>
> We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
> pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
> new RC is pushed.
>
> - a (Google)
>

ataferner

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Jul 1, 2009, 3:12:10 AM7/1/09
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On Jun 29, 12:30 pm, Aaron Boodman <a...@google.com> wrote:
> We're working on pushing out a new Gears version that support FF 3.5.
>
> We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
> pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
> new RC is pushed.

Hmm. I seem to remember another Google Employee saying something
different in January:
http://groups.google.com/group/gears-users/msg/430fb209515e6e46

That was 6 months ago. Now Firefox 3.5 final has been released and
Google has been caught sleeping behind the wheel.
All other major extensions I can think of managed to stay functional
during the Beta/RC stages.

Sigh. Hope to see an updated version of Gears soon, now that the
pressure is on.

Darktalker

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Jul 1, 2009, 11:09:17 AM7/1/09
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Same here.. I refresh google gears's page every 10 minutes to check if
there is an update. Our main product is based on Google Gears, we do
really need google gears works with firefox 3.5 ASAP..

Ivan

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:52:27 AM7/2/09
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I managed to compile gears for firefox 3.5 under Linux. I have only
x86_64 system, thus xpi for i386 remains untested. x86_64 works
perfectly for me. Please report any problems.

http://uploaded.ivlis.com/gears-linux-x86_64-opt-0.5.25.0.xpi

http://uploaded.ivlis.com/gears-linux-opt-0.5.25.0.xpi
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Hotdog

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Jul 2, 2009, 9:29:38 AM7/2/09
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Google: is there any time frame for how long this fix is going to
take?

Shyam

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Jul 2, 2009, 6:16:34 AM7/2/09
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The latest SVN (rev 3373) builds (0.5.25.0) works with Firefox 3.5. I
have it running on my Mac. They checked in the code in the pat 24
hours, so I assume a proper release should not be a day or so away.

Clintre

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Jul 1, 2009, 3:25:56 PM7/1/09
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Generally most software companies / providers are ahead of the game.
It is not like no one knew FF 3.5 was coming. Pretty standard practice
Google and if you are wanting to move your solutions into more
businesses you need to get up to speed.

chugmonkey

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Jul 2, 2009, 1:14:12 PM7/2/09
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I'm vexed! Argh, no offline GMail and my wordpress is no longer
operating in Turbo. Not good, not good at all.

This is so important to me that I have to revert to my previous FF
install. :-(

On Jul 2, 5:23 pm, Explorer5 <andrew.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did Google even begin development of the Gears plugin for FF 3.5 prior
> to the final version being released? This is so frustrating. How can
> we depend on a technology that a company is pushing when they dont
> even keep up with their own development of it?
>
> C'mon Google!
>
> Even Microsoft would do better than this by at least posting a "Beta"
> or "developers" version of it.. A term which Google should be quite
> familiar with.
>
> -Andrew

Merhawie

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:58:29 PM7/2/09
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First of all if Microsoft was doing this they would not be ahead of a
spec, they would be years behind it. In fact they would likely wait
until the spec was complete then come up with something parallel and
incompatible.

Secondly, if you are so concerned check the svn version, build it and
distribute. Don't forget this an open project lead by google not owned
by google. Remember it's Gears, not Google Gears.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Explorer5 <andrew...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Did Google even begin development of the Gears plugin for FF 3.5 prior
> to the final version being released? This is so frustrating. How can
> we depend on a technology that a company is pushing when they dont
> even keep up with their own development of it?
>
> C'mon Google!
>
> Even Microsoft would do better than this by at least posting a "Beta"
> or "developers" version of it.. A term which Google should be quite
> familiar with.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Jul 2, 11:52 am, Ivan <ilissen...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ivan

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:14:28 PM7/2/09
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Sorry guys, my server is down :( Changed to another hosting:

x86_64:
http://rotuka.com/files/google_gears_firefox_3.5/gears-linux-x86_64-opt-0.5.25.0.xpi
(md5: 6d517d64e8ca4408b2d75572f501c3e1)

i386:
http://rotuka.com/files/google_gears_firefox_3.5/gears-linux-opt-0.5.25.0.xpi
(md5: 9da04e7e04ea9bbb41c52f9d3d7b57eb)

patch:
http://rotuka.com/files/google_gears_firefox_3.5/gears_i386_ff3.5.patch


If possible, please publish mac version. Cross compiling for mac is a
little bit hard.

Daniel H

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Jul 3, 2009, 5:43:06 PM7/3/09
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Someone from Google can estimate when will be released a new Gears
version that supports Firefox 3.5? thanks

docspike

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:36:04 AM7/3/09
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Hi Ivan,
I use ububtu 9.04 x86_64....your download for google gears is working
for me..Thanx a lot..

Yours,
Dr.Ravichandra

Geza Kovacs

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:29:26 PM7/3/09
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Geza Kovacs

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pentagram

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:58:44 AM7/3/09
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What about windows version? Who can compile firefox 3.5-compatible
windows version?

Geza Kovacs

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:28:50 PM7/3/09
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Zaki

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:11:17 PM7/2/09
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The norm seems to be google updates gears about 1 week after the new
firefox release. Gears is a pretty deep manipulation of the browser
and it seems like a substantial amount work to get to compatibility
with each new browser version. I wish google would maintain a beta
track gears extension with marginal compatibility with prerelease
browsers. It would make handleing all 4 major browsers much easier.

On Jul 1, 8:57 am, tfreitas <tfrei...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thorn

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On Jun 29, 9:30 am, Aaron Boodman <a...@google.com> wrote:
> We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
> pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
> new RC is pushed.

This is the wrong attitude to take. One of the biggest reasons for
having a release candidate push of software is to provide extension
developers a chance to test out their products in advance against a
stable product and fixed API so that the users can have things "just
work" at release.

If you at Google really want to make Gears an essential part of the
web, even small setbacks like this is going to cause people to sour at
your product, especially as you are also pushing a competitive browser
of your own now.

I hope you don't make this same mistake with 3.6 and onward. The web
is forgiving once or twice for a really good product -- which I
believe Gears truly is -- but can also turn very harsh very quickly.

wesb5c

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:24:06 PM7/3/09
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I think the best thing to do here is to accept accountability for
having dropped the ball. Hopefully this will provide you with an
opportunity to begin development and support of mainstream browsers
(it is the #2 browser by marketshare) a little earlier. Then you wont
be put in the position where you are on defense while annoying your
supporters and users.

A simple "we are working on a new release and will be refreshing our
process for supporting new browsers" would not only have diffused the
situation, but likely brought praise.

Hiding behind a "we only support release versions" then not having a
version ready for release just loses credibility.

That is the way I see it, if you dont agree, that is ok.

On Jul 2, 10:14 pm, Ivan <ilissen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry guys, my server is down :( Changed to another hosting:
>
> x86_64:http://rotuka.com/files/google_gears_firefox_3.5/gears-linux-x86_64-o...
> (md5: 6d517d64e8ca4408b2d75572f501c3e1)
>
> i386:http://rotuka.com/files/google_gears_firefox_3.5/gears-linux-opt-0.5....

spEctoRius

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Jul 2, 2009, 5:05:03 PM7/2/09
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3 july and no google gears =(((

Geza Kovacs

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NHLfan

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Jul 3, 2009, 6:36:34 PM7/3/09
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Hi,
Thanks!

Kirk M

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:34:35 PM7/3/09
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Thanks Geza! I just loaded it into Firefox 3.5 and "downloaded" the
Admin of both my WordPress powered sites. Works like a charm and my
shared server heaved a sigh of relief. Ironically enough I was using
Chrome (latest Dev channel build) with the WP Admins up until now
which actually uses an even earlier version than Firefox 3.0.11 did
(0.5.21.0 vs 0.5.23.0). Go figure.

Many thanks for putting these out for 3.5 users ahead of time. Much
appreciated.

Jaime Zamora

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Jul 3, 2009, 9:49:30 PM7/3/09
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thanks!

chugmonkey

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Jul 5, 2009, 2:24:09 PM7/5/09
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Geza, you are indeed a scholar.

Thank you very much, I hope Google has your cheque in the post!

Sterling work!

Dancres

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:25:52 AM7/4/09
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I've built one for OS X:

http://code.google.com/p/gearsff35osx/

Ivan Lanin

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Jul 5, 2009, 11:30:29 PM7/5/09
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Thanks Geza! You really make me love Monday :)

Igor N.

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:28:29 AM7/4/09
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Thanks!

incognito

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Jul 5, 2009, 3:24:49 AM7/5/09
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5th july & no Gears :(

Ottawa2006

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Jul 4, 2009, 8:59:42 PM7/4/09
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It is unacceptable that Google never comes out to tell its fans why it
took such a long time and still no release comes out.
I have to imagine that Google is doing something EVIL.

On Jun 30, 12:30 am, Aaron Boodman <a...@google.com> wrote:
> We're working on pushing out a new Gears version that support FF 3.5.
>
> We typically wait until the official "gold" release of Firefox is
> pushed, because otherwise, we keep having to do new builds everytime a
> new RC is pushed.
>

Dancres

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:23:20 AM7/4/09
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I've built a set for Intel Macs running OS X Leopard:

http://code.google.com/p/gearsff35osx/

I get a crash on restart after the install but a further restart and
all seems fine.

Tom

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:45:32 AM7/6/09
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> If possible, please publish mac version. Cross compiling for mac is a
> little bit hard.

Here you go. Installed fine for me.
Revision 3375.
Mac / Firefox 3.5 : gears-osx-dbg-0.5.25.0.xpi
http://www.sendspace.com/file/coc7rz

Carl

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:53:31 AM7/6/09
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Not cool at all. I thought google used its own products on different
browsers internally! Surely, someone must have noticed well in advance
that Gears did not work with anything greater than firefox 3.0.11?
Could somebody from Google please enlighten us as to why its taking so
long so we could at least understand the reason for the delay?

On Jul 1, 3:57 pm, tfreitas <tfrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> please people, patience
>
> On Jun 30, 11:12 pm, Explorer5 <andrew.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Or imagine if Google put out a new version of Chrome and Gears didn't
> > work... Sounds to me like Google is trying to do what it can to push
> > users to Chrome. The fact that they claim they'd have to do an update
> > for ever RC is ridiculous, the whole point of an RC's is that its
> > practically feature complete and its to check for last minute bugs. I
> > cant picture each RC being so different that they'd have to do some
> > major code re-writing.
>
> > On Jun 30, 10:57 am, Garret <gar...@globalmentor.com> wrote:
>
> > > I just upgraded to the official Firefox 3.5, and Google Gears was
> > > disabled. Can you imagine of upgrading to Firefox 3.5 disabled Flash?
> > > Not a good step, Google.
>
> > > Garret
>
> > > On Jun 29, 7:13 pm, Jon <hasta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks for the response Aaron.  Previous advice from Google in
> > > > searching this thread was that you updated for the RC.
>
> > > > It's good to know we'll have it soon.  It looks like final release of
> > > > Firefox 3.5 is due in the next day or so.
>

amau96

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Jul 6, 2009, 6:45:25 AM7/6/09
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If we install your build, will we receive the official update from
google?
If the version's number is the same, will firefox auto update?

jigarashah

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Jul 7, 2009, 7:45:06 AM7/7/09
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Its 22MB :) ?I think official one is much lighter ?

vanton

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Jul 7, 2009, 8:36:55 AM7/7/09
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I ve just installed it but when I open Preferences Panel Firefox
crashes. Any ideas?

thanx

NHLfan

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Jul 7, 2009, 3:43:35 PM7/7/09
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yes, that's a bug, which is already reported @ mozilla:
see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502403

Kirk M

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Jul 7, 2009, 3:43:57 PM7/7/09
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Since the Windows Version is only 2.9MB I would have to believe the size
difference is due to having to include the basic dependencies required
for any Li