Re: [gears-users] Digest for gears-users@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

[Martijn van de Rijdt]

In my testing Google Frame does not provide the applicationCache to IE either (it does provide localStorage to IE6 and IE7, not sure about Web SQL). It kind of makes sense because I believe Google Frame only starts doing its thing (take over) once it has read the special meta tag - so after the page is retrieved from the server. 

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:25 PM, <gears-use...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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MarkS <mark.s...@gmail.com> Feb 05 07:41PM -0800 ^

 
I think Gears was deprecated too soon. Hopefully Google will continue
to support it and keep it working for a while longer until the similar
features in HTML5 get sorted out, fully implemented and established.
 
For example, the need is for a local database and an offline app
cache.
 
The HTML5 Web SQL Database spec appears to be dead. [
http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/ ]
This was implemented in Chrome and Safari I think, will it continue to
be supported in future versions or will it end up being deprecated
since it is not part of the html5 spec? It likely won't be implemented
in Firefox or IE.
 
IndexedDB is not fully implemented yet. [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(HTML_5)#Related_specifications
]
This appears to be the HTML5 database spec going forward. This is
probably the one to use for a local db, but not quite yet? It looks
like IE9/Firefox,/Chrome will support it.
 
For offline app cache, IE/Trident is a 'no' on the Wikipedia chart.
That's a problem if your customers use IE. You'd need to use Google
Chrome Frame in IE to get offline app functionality.
 
Will Google Chrome Frame continue to be supported for IE9, or only for
IE6,7,8?
 
 
 
On Feb 3, 4:38 pm, Michael Nordman <gears.tea...@gmail.com>
wrote:


 

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[MarkS]

Thanks for clarifying that. I hadn't tried using the offline/
applicationCache functionality via Chrome Frame. I looked around for
more information and saw this bug report/issue describing the problem,
basically what you outlined.
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=53211

On Feb 6, 9:40 pm, Martijn van de Rijdt <mri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my testing Google Frame does not provide the applicationCache to IE
> either (it does provide localStorage to IE6 and IE7, not sure about Web
> SQL). It kind of makes sense because I believe Google Frame only starts
> doing its thing (take over) once it has read the special meta tag - so after
> the page is retrieved from the server.
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> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:25 PM, <gears-use...@googlegroups.com>wrote:
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> >    - do i initialize localserver & set manifest on EVERY page session?<#12dfdf02f65efc6f_group_thread_0>[1 Update]
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> >    MarkS <mark.shaw...@gmail.com> Feb 05 07:41PM -0800 ^<#12dfdf02f65efc6f_digest_top>

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> >    I think Gears was deprecated too soon. Hopefully Google will continue
> >    to support it and keep it working for a while longer until the similar
> >    features in HTML5 get sorted out, fully implemented and established.
>
> >    For example, the need is for a local database and an offline app
> >    cache.
>
> >    The HTML5 Web SQL Database spec appears to be dead. [
> >    http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/]
> >    This was implemented in Chrome and Safari I think, will it continue to
> >    be supported in future versions or will it end up being deprecated
> >    since it is not part of the html5 spec? It likely won't be implemented
> >    in Firefox or IE.
>
> >    IndexedDB is not fully implemented yet. [
>

> >    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(HTML_5)#Re...
> >    ]

> >    This appears to be the HTML5 database spec going forward. This is
> >    probably the one to use for a local db, but not quite yet? It looks
> >    like IE9/Firefox,/Chrome will support it.
>
> >    For offline app cache, IE/Trident is a 'no' on the Wikipedia chart.
> >    That's a problem if your customers use IE. You'd need to use Google
> >    Chrome Frame in IE to get offline app functionality.
>
> >    Will Google Chrome Frame continue to be supported for IE9, or only for
> >    IE6,7,8?
>

> >    On Feb 3, 4:38 pm, Michael Nordman <gears.team.micha...@gmail.com>
> >    wrote:
>
> --http://www.linkedin.com/in/martijnvanderijdt

[Martijn]

I wasn't completely correct actually...

The Chrome Frame HTML5 applicationCache (tested in IE7 and IE8) does
seem to work, but you have to manually select 'Work Offline' before
loading the page. (Maybe it loads the html page from the regular
browser cache?)

On Feb 7, 12:44 pm, MarkS <mark.shaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying that. I hadn't tried using the offline/
> applicationCache functionality via Chrome Frame. I looked around for
> more information and saw this bug report/issue describing the problem,

> basically what you outlined.http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=53211