Lathe Question

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omar-...@cox.net

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May 16, 2012, 2:14:59 PM5/16/12
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HI all--
I have a 1967 Clausing (Atlas) 12" x 48" lathe.  It has a three jaw chuck.  I have a project that I would like to do, but I need a four jaw chuck.  Do any of you machine guys out there have any insight on where I might find one?  I have checked the local places as best I could with no luck.  I am not even sure a four jaw chuck was available for this machine.  I appreciate any info any of you may have.
Thanks.
Omar Khiel
Oasis Custom Cycles LLC.

Truls Erik Johnsen

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May 16, 2012, 2:22:02 PM5/16/12
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Don't they use a fairly standard camlock style backing plate on the chuck? If so, it should be a fairly straight forward process. You might be able to find some information here:  http://www.lathes.co.uk/colchester/ 

Truls

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Steff

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May 16, 2012, 2:22:11 PM5/16/12
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I'm pretty certain they're out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJfKhkS0QE

That Youtube user, Tubalcain/mrpete222 seems to be pretty much a fount
of knowledge on machine shop technique and equipment. Maybe even worth
asking him directly?

S

Alex Wetmore

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May 16, 2012, 2:23:20 PM5/16/12
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According to http://www.lathes.co.uk/atlas/page4.html your lathe uses a 1-1/2" by 8 TPI spindle nose.  This is a very common chuck mount (South Bend 9" and light 10" lathes also used it).

Tools4cheap.com will have new ones at a reasonable price.  They aren't that fancy, but the 4-jaw that Alistair got from that source seems to work well.

There is a used tool store in Vermont that I always forget the name of that will probably have them as well.

alex


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js...@optonline.net

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May 16, 2012, 2:28:25 PM5/16/12
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Plaza Machine - Joe Bergamo

Alex Wetmore

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May 16, 2012, 2:33:02 PM5/16/12
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That's it!

Tools4cheap is http://tools4cheap.net , sorry about the typo.  Note that from them you'd need to buy a chuck and a mounting plate, then machine the mounting plate to the chuck.

At Plaza you can find it all together and in higher quality, but ordering will take a couple of weeks.  Looks like $150ish gets you a range of US-made 6" chucks with backs installed from Union or Craftsman.

Double check the spindle nose sizing first of course, by removing the 3-jaw.

alex



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Truls Erik Johnsen

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May 16, 2012, 2:39:41 PM5/16/12
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Listen to Alex not me. I'm guessing, Alex have the proper answer.

T

Wissahickon Cyclery

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May 16, 2012, 4:10:58 PM5/16/12
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I had that lathe and if it is the one with a variable speed system (5800 series?) and is an actual Clausing rebranded with the Atlas name tag it is a L00 spindle nose.  A picture would solve this in about 3 seconds.  The L00 is a rather common spindle nose and most of the time you have a plan back 4 jaw and the L00 adapter plate that will require you to machine the correct shoulder for the chuck you want to use.  The plates are made from iron and make a huge mess with a REALLY abrasive chip.  Make sure you cover the ways with plastic when you machine the back plate and clean everything up the best you can.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Drew
Drew Guldalian
Wissahickon Cyclery
7837 Germantown Ave Phila,PA 19118
www.wiss-cycles.com
www.engincycles.com

js...@optonline.net

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May 16, 2012, 4:22:37 PM5/16/12
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It's pretty common, in the used tooling market, to find chucks with either an integral back plate or the back plate already mounted. The buyer should beware of used 3 jaw chucks because they're often worn out, but most used 4 jaw chucks seem to have had a pretty cushy life.
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Wissahickon Cyclery 
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: RE: [Frame] Lathe Question
To: Truls Erik Johnsen
Cc: framebuilders 

> I had that lathe and if it is the one with a variable speed
> system (5800
> series?) and is an actual Clausing rebranded with the Atlas name
> tag it is
> a L00 spindle nose. A picture would solve this in about 3
> seconds. The
> L00 is a rather common spindle nose and most of the time you
> have a plan
> back 4 jaw and the L00 adapter plate that will require you to
> machine the
> correct shoulder for the chuck you want to use. The plates are
> made from
> iron and make a huge mess with a REALLY abrasive chip. Make
> sure you cover
> the ways with plastic when you machine the back plate and clean
> everythingup the best you can.

>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Drew
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Truls Erik Johnsen
> wrote:
>
> > Listen to Alex not me. I'm guessing, Alex have the proper answer.
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Alex Wetmore
> wrote:>
> >> That's it!
> >>
> >> Tools4cheap is http://tools4cheap.net , sorry about the
> typo. Note
> >> that from them you'd need to buy a chuck and a mounting
> plate, then machine
> >> the mounting plate to the chuck.
> >>
> >> At Plaza you can find it all together and in higher quality, but
> >> ordering will take a couple of weeks. Looks like $150ish
> gets you a range
> >> of US-made 6" chucks with backs installed from Union or Craftsman.
> >>
> >> Double check the spindle nose sizing first of course, by
> removing the
> >> 3-jaw.
> >>
> >> alex
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* js...@optonline.net [js...@optonline.net]
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:28 AM
> >> *To:* Alex Wetmore
> >> *Cc:* omar-...@cox.net; framebuilders
> >> *Subject:* Re: RE: [Frame] Lathe Question

Hubert d'Autremont

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May 17, 2012, 2:14:02 PM5/17/12
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Hi Omar,
I'm sure that Joe at Plaza Machinery has one I was just there two days
ago. I would also just buy a new backing plate so you don't have to
worry about swapping them back and forth.
His email is joe(at)plazamachinery.com
Hope that helps.

HHd'A
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