Re: Digest for felix-users@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic
Benjamin Tompkins
I've never tried Windows voice recognition. I use Felix with Dragon
11.5 and have encountered no significant compatibility issues of the
nature you describe. (This is FYI. I'm not suggesting you buy DNS.)
As a possible workaround, try dictating the Felix commands instead of
typing them if you can do this in WIndows voice recognition. In
Dragon, you can say "Press Alt right arrow" or "Press Alt S," for
example.
And could you tell us your impression of Windows voice recognition.
Ben Tompkins
2012/2/13 <felix...@googlegroups.com>:
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> "Steven P. Venti" <spv...@bhk-limited.com> Feb 13 10:12AM +0900
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> I've been using Felix with MS Office 2010 since last August, and one major
> irritation I've found is that if I don't press the Alt+arrow combos in rapid
> succession, Windows voice recognition interprets the Alt key as a shortcut
> to
> show command ID numbers for voice navigation. (In other words, it displays
> a series of numbered boxes that are used to voice navigate in-application
> commands.)
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> I would like to disable this particular "feature" of the voice recognition
> program but it's rather poorly documented and I'm unsure how to go about it.
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> Has anyone else been bothered by this issue and, if so, have you been able
> to
> find a solution or a work around?
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> TIA
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Steven P. Venti
Thanks for your response.
Actually, I have DNS 11.5, but it is incompatible with the version of Win7
that gets preinstalled on computers in Japan. I'm hoping this issue will be
resolved before too long, but until it is, I am making do with the Win7's
native VR app. Despite the lack of documentation for Win7VR, which makes it a
bit of a challenge to learn, once you figure it out, it is a solid if
unsophisticated VR app. It does not contain all the options that DNS has for
formatting specific words and numbers, but its recognition accuracy is
probably just as good.
Your proposed work around makes sense, thanks, except that I only use VR for
certain types of documents. Or, to be more accurate, I like the way Win7VR
works with MS Word, but find it clunky to use in PP or Excel.
I'm thinking of changing the shortcut from Alt+arrow to Ctrl+Alt+arrow, which
would probably solve the problem, too, but after playing with it a while today,
I just noticed that the command IDs appear not when Alt is pressed but when it
is released. Which means that I can prevent them from appearing by hitting
Ctrl before releasing Alt or simply by hitting Alt again.
Thanks again,
Steve
Charles Aschmann
1. DNS: If you change your settings to English in Control Panel -->
Clock Language and Region --> Region and Language --> Location and
Administrative (Change system Local), English DNS 11.5 should work on
your computer. This Win7 Kernel is the same for all versions, but
versions of DNS 10.1 and up screwed up the Locale setting compatibility.
You may be able to get away with not changing the Location setting. My
solution is to run DNS and my TM program in native Win7 set to English
and have a Virtual XP (free from MS) installed with the settings in
Japanese for running my Japanese programs. (You may have to download the
Win7 compatibility upgrade for 11.5, but I think it is built in.)
You can then run Felix and DNS in native Win7 (set to English) without
problems.
I experimented with WSR, even bought the macro building software from
Marty Markoe, but I found it much inferior to DNS.
2. I cannot find anything about configuring keyboard shortcuts for WSR.
Charles Aschmann
Steven P. Venti
> 1. DNS: If you change your settings to English
Actually, they have been set to English since day one. I don't know if it's a
32-bit/64-bit incompatibility or what, but the program is unstable, the
correction dialog boxes do not open or are inactive if they do, and crashes
unexpectedly on a regular basis.
For what it's worth, even WinSR has a few quirks that appear to be related to
character encoding. For example, it sometimes inserts a question mark when I
say "hyphen."
>My solution is to run DNS and my TM program in native Win7 set to English
> and have a Virtual XP (free from MS) installed with the settings in
> Japanese for running my Japanese programs.
Actually, I used DNS 11.5 without problem on my XP machine, so perhaps I
should try installing and running it on Virtual XP.
Thanks
Charles Aschmann
> ctually, they have been set to English since day one. I don't know if it's a
> 32-bit/64-bit incompatibility or what, but the program is unstable, the
> correction dialog boxes do not open or are inactive if they do, and crashes
> unexpectedly on a regular basis.
Check carefully that you set everything to emulate European or American
settings. You need both locale and the compliance for non-unicode
programs. It may be that some legacy code in the Japanese version is
throwing it off, but it seems that it should work.
I am not sure running DNS in virtual XP will accomplish the same thing.
There might be problems with transfer to programs not running in Virtual
XP. For what it is worth, I run DNS 10.1 Pro on two Win7 Pro 64 bit
machines and one Win7 Home Premium 64 bit Slate.
Sorry to use this list for this discussion.
Charles Aschmann
Steven P. Venti
> These are exactly the symptoms I experienced under Japanese settings.
OK, I will give it another try, now that I understand the situation a bit
better than before.
> Sorry to use this list for this discussion.
Same from me, but I'm also glad I asked this question here.