Joe Rogan and Terrence Howard

[John Clark]

Giulio Prisco wrote On:

No, science doesn’t have a problem with Joe Rogan

Well, some of the guests on Joe Rogan's show certainly have a problem with science. For example Rogan invited the actor Terrence Howard to promote his crackpot ideas about mathematics and physics, ideas he says he got from a being that visited him in a dream:

Terrence Howard insists that 1x1=2.

Terrence Howard insists that the very idea of the square root of 2 is nonsense.

Terrence Howard insists that 2 is not a prime number even though the definition of a prime number is a number that is only divisible by itself and the number 1.

Terrence Howard insists that the Luminiferous Aether exists, even though it's a theory that Einstein put out of its misery 120 years ago and that had been in intensive care for 50 years before that.

Terrence Howard insists  scientists introduced uncertainty and "all this bullshit" because they were only thinking in 2-D but he found the truth because he was thinking in 3-D.  

Terrence Howard insists that "cartesian space don't allow curvature".

Terrence Howard insists that  "Gravity is just electricities draft".

Terrence Howard insists that he was not the one who came up with all this stuff " I didn't invent it, an angel gave that to me".

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[Will Steinberg]

John, clearly you’re not giving the ideas a fair shot.  1x1=2 sounds crazy, but what if it’s true?

Just kidding but did I getcha?

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[Giulio Prisco]

So in Joe Rogan's show (like everywhere) there's some noise besides
the signal. Terrence Howard is noise. But I hope you agree with me
that Roger Penrose - a top level scientist who has been praised for
decades despite some unconventional ideas , eventually winning the
Nobel Prize in Physics - is signal.

The noise is the price that one has to pay for the signal. I think
this is a fair deal, and I prefer to hear more noise if I can find
important signals hidden in the noise.

Joe Rogan brings to the attention of the public the ideas of some
scientists who do excellent work (think of our own Ben Goertzel) but
might not reach the public at large otherwise. In these days of
thought policing, cancel "culture" and forced political correctness, I
think the Joe Rogans of the world are very much needed.

Back to Terrence Howard, I didn't watch the episode with him and don't
intend to. I think what he says is BS, and why should I want to waste
my time with BS? But given the choice between Howard AND Penrose, OR
no Howard and no Penrose, I choose the former. And I think if many
people want to listen to a person then, regardless of what you and I
think of that person, that person must be given a platform .

[John Clark]

On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 12:25 AM Giulio Prisco <giu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So in Joe Rogan's show (like everywhere) there's some noise besides the signal. Terrence Howard is noise.

But Terrence Howard is VERY predictable noise, but Rogan invited him on his show anyway. It's one thing to have opinions about things that are on the very frontier of knowledge that only a minority of scientists in the physics community have, such as Roger Penrose, and somebody insisting that 1×1 = 2 and believing that the square root of 2 is nonsense. But at least Howard's idiocies will not kill anybody, but the anti-vaccine lunatics that Rogan invited on his program, when 4000 Americans were dying of COVID in a single day (911 only killed 2977) was irresponsible because that DID kill people. Rogan says he wants "a debate on vaccine science" but science had that debate 200 years ago and as far as science is concerned the controversy is over, vaccines work, and during the last 200 years vaccines have saved hundreds of millions if not billions of lives.  

And the fact that Joe Rogan believes that the perfect man to be president is a convicted felon and traitor who instigated a coup d'état in an attempt to become dictator, is a data point refuting the proposition that Mr. Rogan is a font of wisdom. However there is reason to believe that Mr. Rogan did well at his former job, giving color commentary during televised wrestling matches. 

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