Will Australia’s giant Quantum Computer bring militaries fears to life?

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John Clark

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The article implies that if China gets big quantum computers before we do they'll be able to read all our messages.  But us getting big QC first doesn't affect that.  What we need to do is change to encryption not susceptible to QCs, something we are already doing.  I has nothing to do with how fast be make big QCs.

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While adopting new algorithms will secure future communications, anyone with the capacity to intercept and record messages now can hold on to them until the time large scale quantum computers can be developed to break the old encryption. There will be some advantage to the first one to get such a computer (assuming that one also has the recorded communications protected with current algorithms).

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But it was my understanding that encryption is being changed to methods for which a quantum computer is no better than a classical computer and are effectively secure.

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On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:09 AM Brent Meeker <meeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
But it was my understanding that encryption is being changed to methods for which a quantum computer is no better than a classical computer and are effectively secure.

That's correct. Many quantum-secure algorithms have been invented already and NIST is in the process of standardizing them. The issue is that until we move to those algorithms, existing and past communications can be exposed once a quantum computer is developed that can break existing algorithms. Consider, for example, if some government agency were to store all intercepted encrypted communications long-term. Then once a quantum computer of sufficient power is created, they can go back and decrypt this archive of intercepted encrypted communications.

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This kind of, quantum computing-wise, a prediction from JC from a few years ago, regarding the achieving and impact. Seems corroborated in this article?




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John Clark

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On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 9:43 AM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
This kind of, quantum computing-wise, a prediction from JC from a few years ago, regarding the achieving and impact. Seems corroborated in this article?
Denis Mandich, is the chief technology officer for the quantum computer company "Qrypt" and is quoted as saying:

“With just 300 logical qubits, you have more compute power than has ever existed and could ever exist if you turned every atom---every atom in the universe---into a supercomputer,”

We don't know how good quantum error correcting algorithms can get but estimates are that it will take between 10,000 and 100,000 of today's best physical Qubits to make one logical Qubit that has an error rate of 10^-15, which is what you need for a quantum computer to become practical. And as of today, the lowest physical Qubit error rate so far was 10^-6, one error per million operations, achieved by researchers in Sydney Australia. The better the physical Qubit is, the fewer of them you need to make a near perfect logical Qubit, and I have no doubt that over time both physical Qubits and quantum error correcting algorithms will get better, but I don't know how much time or how much better.

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You and me both do not know.

Slightly, related?

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