TSMC

[John Clark]

What is the most important company in the world? I think it's the Taiwan chipmaker TSMC because it manufactures 90% of the world's most advanced microchips and if they were to cease operations, or even if two or three of their largest factories were destroyed, there would be a worldwide depression. Warren Buffett has said " TSMC is one of the best-managed companies and important companies in the world, there's no one in the chip industry that's in TSMC's league". Nevertheless, Buffett recently sold all his shares in TSMC because "I don't like their location". 

Some say the reason China wants Taijuan so badly is so they can get their hands on TSMC, but others say that would be foolish because if they use military force the factories would likely be destroyed, either in the fighting or by the Taiwanese themselves to avoid them falling into Chinese hands. And even if they remained intact there would be such a huge brain drain nobody would be around to operate them. And even if they could find the people the Chinese would be cut off from foreign semiconductor equipment suppliers that they need, like Applied Materials, Tokyo Electron, and above all ASML. Not to mention the fact that the Taiwanese don't design chips, they just manufacture them. So invading Taiwan would harm the Chinese economy just as much as it would harm the rest of the world, however history has shown that just because something is stupid does not mean a country won't do it, look at Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Incidentally an invasion of Taiwan by the Chinese would be one of the few things that would delay, but not prevent, the Singularity. 

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sqw

[Brent Meeker]

I've heard there was a plan to move TSMC and it's Taimanese workforce to Mexico or Costa Rica.

Brent

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[smitra]

It may well happen this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kMSEkPiLo&t=2588s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSZusNq67M&t=1042s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuCx5FCVyQ


Saibal

On 25-01-2024 21:50, John Clark wrote:
> What is the most important company in the world? I think it's the
> Taiwan chipmaker TSMC because it manufactures 90% of the world's most
> advanced microchips and if they were to cease operations, or even if
> two or three of their largest factories were destroyed, there would be

> a worldwide depression. Warren Buffett has said " _TSMC is one of the

> best-managed companies and important companies in the world, there's

> no one in the chip industry that's in TSMC's league"_. Nevertheless,
> Buffett recently sold all his shares in TSMC because "_I don't like
> their location_".

>
> Some say the reason China wants Taijuan so badly is so they can get
> their hands on TSMC, but others say that would be foolish because if
> they use military force the factories would likely be destroyed,
> either in the fighting or by the Taiwanese themselves to avoid them
> falling into Chinese hands. And even if they remained intact there
> would be such a huge brain drain nobody would be around to operate
> them. And even if they could find the people the Chinese would be cut
> off from foreign semiconductor equipment suppliers that they need,
> like Applied Materials, Tokyo Electron, and above all ASML. Not to
> mention the fact that the Taiwanese don't design chips, they just
> manufacture them. So invading Taiwan would harm the Chinese economy
> just as much as it would harm the rest of the world, however history
> has shown that just because something is stupid does not mean a
> country won't do it, look at Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Incidentally
> an invasion of Taiwan by the Chinese would be one of the few things
> that would delay, but not prevent, the Singularity.
>

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[John Clark]

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 9:48 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

> It may well happen this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kMSEkPiLo&t=2588s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSZusNq67M&t=1042s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuCx5FCVyQ

Interesting. But on the bright side there's the fact that the Chinese army is not battle hardened, they haven't fought a war in 70 years but during that time the US has fought almost continuously in one place or another. And then there's this: 

 China’s Military Scandal: Why a Taiwan Invasion Might Have Just Become Impossible

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[smitra]

On 27-01-2024 19:34, John Clark wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 9:48 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:
>
>>> It may well happen this year:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kMSEkPiLo&t=2588s
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSZusNq67M&t=1042s
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuCx5FCVyQ
>
> Interesting. But on the bright side there's the fact that the Chinese
> army is not battle hardened, they haven't fought a war in 70 years but
> during that time the US has fought almost continuously in one place or
> another. And then there's this:
>

> CHINA’S MILITARY SCANDAL: WHY A TAIWAN INVASION MIGHT HAVE JUST
> BECOME IMPOSSIBLE [1]
>

Yes, and corruption and lack of real military experience also go hand in
hand. Corruption would get weeded out more easily of the military were
used more often.

Saibal


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