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John Clark

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Feb 5, 2025, 9:14:50 AMFeb 5
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Just when I thought Trump's idea of taking over Canada Panama and Greenland couldn't get any stupider the man has proven me wrong, Trump now wants to send soldiers to Gaza so we can "own" it, and then deport all the Palestinians now living in Gaza to countries in which they don't want to go to and which will not accept them, and turn Gaza into a playground for the rich, make it the "Riviera of the Middle East"! Oh and I almost forgot, Trump is attempting to drive the thriving US economy into a ditch, which will certainly happen if he goes through with his brain dead dumb tariffs.

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Alan Grayson

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Feb 5, 2025, 1:50:32 PMFeb 5
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2025 at 7:14:50 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
Just when I thought Trump's idea of taking over Canada Panama and Greenland couldn't get any stupider the man has proven me wrong, Trump now wants to send soldiers to Gaza so we can "own" it, and then deport all the Palestinians now living in Gaza to countries in which they don't want to go to and which will not accept them, and turn Gaza into a playground for the rich, make it the "Riviera of the Middle East"! Oh and I almost forgot, Trump is attempting to drive the thriving US economy into a ditch, which will certainly happen if he goes through with his brain dead dumb tariffs.

The underlying agenda for tariffs IMO is an attempt to find an alternate source of revenue for the government in order to terminate the income tax for a VAT tax. Then the corporate rate declines from 21% to 0%, a windfall for the super-weathy, much better for them than the proposed income tax of 15%, and a highly regressive VAT tax for the rest of us. AG

John Clark

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Feb 5, 2025, 2:08:23 PMFeb 5
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:50 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Just when I thought Trump's idea of taking over Canada Panama and Greenland couldn't get any stupider the man has proven me wrong, Trump now wants to send soldiers to Gaza so we can "own" it, and then deport all the Palestinians now living in Gaza to countries in which they don't want to go to and which will not accept them, and turn Gaza into a playground for the rich, make it the "Riviera of the Middle East"! Oh and I almost forgot, Trump is attempting to drive the thriving US economy into a ditch, which will certainly happen if he goes through with his brain dead dumb tariffs.

The underlying agenda for tariffs IMO is an attempt to find an alternate source of revenue for the government in order to terminate the income tax for a VAT tax. Then the corporate rate declines from 21% to 0%, a windfall for the super-weathy, much better for them than the proposed income tax of 15%, and a highly regressive VAT tax for the rest of us. AG

You are undoubtedly right about that! Just last Sunday Trump tweeted this: 

"Anybody that's against tariffs, including the Fake News Wall Street Journal and hedge funds, is only against them because these people or entities are controlled by China or other foreign or domestic companies. Anybody that loves and believes in the United States of America is in favor of tariffs. They should have never ended in favor of the income tax system in 1913. The response to tariffs has been FANTASTIC!"

Trump was mad because that notorious bastion of ultra liberal thought, The Wall Street Journal, wrote that Trump's economic policy would result in "the dumbest trade war in history"
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Feb 5, 2025, 8:36:22 PMFeb 5
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The question is who will stop him?  Not Congress, certainly not as long as the spineless Republicans have the majority.  And even if the Democrats gain control in the mid-terms they may no be much better.  He's packed the Supreme court and Andrew Jackson pointed out they don't have an enforcement power anyway.  I see now how other banana Republics end up having the military take over.  When it comes just "Make me if you can!" force is all that counts.

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Alan Grayson

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Feb 5, 2025, 9:45:36 PMFeb 5
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2025 at 6:36:22 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
The question is who will stop him?  Not Congress, certainly not as long as the spineless Republicans have the majority.  And even if the Democrats gain control in the mid-terms they may no be much better.  He's packed the Supreme court and Andrew Jackson pointed out they don't have an enforcement power anyway.  I see now how other banana Republics end up having the military take over.  When it comes just "Make me if you can!" force is all that counts.

Brent

You should watch Rachel Maddow today. There have been huge demonstations across the country in support of USAID. AG 

Brent Meeker

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On 2/5/2025 6:45 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Wednesday, February 5, 2025 at 6:36:22 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
The question is who will stop him?  Not Congress, certainly not as long as the spineless Republicans have the majority.  And even if the Democrats gain control in the mid-terms they may no be much better.  He's packed the Supreme court and Andrew Jackson pointed out they don't have an enforcement power anyway.  I see now how other banana Republics end up having the military take over.  When it comes just "Make me if you can!" force is all that counts.

Brent

You should watch Rachel Maddow today. There have been huge demonstations across the country in support of USAID. AG
But not demonstrations of force.  If they occupy the Treasury and the FBI building, then I'll take heart.

Brent



On 2/5/2025 6:14 AM, John Clark wrote:
Just when I thought Trump's idea of taking over Canada Panama and Greenland couldn't get any stupider the man has proven me wrong, Trump now wants to send soldiers to Gaza so we can "own" it, and then deport all the Palestinians now living in Gaza to countries in which they don't want to go to and which will not accept them, and turn Gaza into a playground for the rich, make it the "Riviera of the Middle East"! Oh and I almost forgot, Trump is attempting to drive the thriving US economy into a ditch, which will certainly happen if he goes through with his brain dead dumb tariffs.

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